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J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?

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Post#1 J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:02 pm by GeneralNbaFan

Why did this guy sign only for 2,8 mio?

Camby, Novak, Felton, Kidd are earning more than him!
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Post#2 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:07 pm by GoNYK1288

I don't think there's any doubt were getting
Huge bang for our buck with jr. He's probably the best deal with the possible exception of some amnesty players like brand.

It seems the reason he came for so cheap is because of an under the table deal with the Knicks that led them to sign his little brother Chris. We will also have his bird rights after this season meaning hell likely get a big contract from us
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Post#3 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:14 pm by Thugger HBC

Jr wants the bigger payday.

You need bird rights for that.

He's on the cheap now......

That's Earl.

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Post#4 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:16 pm by j4remi

Brewer could make a case as well imo...We have some GREAT value contracts in Brewer, Smith and Kidd.
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Post#5 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:21 pm by GeneralNbaFan

j4remi wrote:Brewer could make a case as well imo...We have some GREAT value contracts in Brewer, Smith and Kidd.


Yes thats right, I looked at the roster and tried to explain that a player should never agree to getting paid millions less, but all the players are on a good contract ( JR is still the best)....

I think the only one who shouldnt making that much is Novak.... i think 3mio would be ok!
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Post#6 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:23 pm by Thugger HBC

Novak received market set money.

I think he was sold on that to stay.

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Post#7 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:44 pm by Sark

Thugger HBC wrote:Jr wants the bigger payday.

You need bird rights for that.

He's on the cheap now......

That's Earl.

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What do you think he's gonna get in the next contract? 4/$48m sound right?
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Post#8 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:51 pm by fdr2012

Sark wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Jr wants the bigger payday.

You need bird rights for that.

He's on the cheap now......

That's Earl.

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What do you think he's gonna get in the next contract? 4/$48m sound right?


Knicks will only have early Bird rights for him. That means $5M PER the most he could get. I think the Knicks offer him $20M/4 and that's really what he's worth.

I can't see any team under the cap offering him more. 4/$48M is absurd for JR. Not even close.
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Post#9 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:01 pm by Sark

fdr2012 wrote:
Sark wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Jr wants the bigger payday.

You need bird rights for that.

He's on the cheap now......

That's Earl.

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What do you think he's gonna get in the next contract? 4/$48m sound right?


Knicks will only have early Bird rights for him. That means $5M PER the most he could get. I think the Knicks offer him $20M/4 and that's really what he's worth.

I can't see any team under the cap offering him more. 4/$48M is absurd for JR. Not even close.


Landry got offered more than that. I can easily see another team throwing money at him.
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Post#10 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:02 pm by GeneralNbaFan

fdr2012 wrote:
Sark wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Jr wants the bigger payday.

You need bird rights for that.

He's on the cheap now......

That's Earl.

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What do you think he's gonna get in the next contract? 4/$48m sound right?


Knicks will only have early Bird rights for him. That means $5M PER the most he could get. I think the Knicks offer him $20M/4 and that's really what he's worth.

I can't see any team under the cap offering him more. 4/$48M is absurd for JR. Not even close.


I really dont like him as a player and I dont think he had the upside to become a "Superstar" like Kobe, but I think hes worth 10mio. +
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Post#11 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:39 pm by fdr2012

Sark wrote:Landry got offered more than that. I can easily see another team throwing money at him.


Landry was a "good character" guy and he was 24, so an idiot GM like Colangelo overpaid for him.

JR is a problem guy and nobody is going to overpay for him. He needs to be coddled by a guy like Woodson in order to perform. What team under the cap is going to bid $10M for him?

Houston? Phoenix? Kings? Cavs? Bucks? NOH? Jazz? Hawks? Pistons? Mavs?

Nobody is bidding more than MLE money for JR.
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Post#12 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:42 pm by fdr2012

GeneralNbaFan wrote:I really dont like him as a player and I dont think he had the upside to become a "Superstar" like Kobe, but I think hes worth 10mio. +


There will be 10 teas under the cap next season. Which one offer JR $10M?

1. Houston
2. Phoenix
3. Kings
4. Cavs
5. Bucks
6. NOH
7. Jazz
8. Hawks
9. Pistons
10. Mavs

People are forgetting that Mayo got $4M and he's 24.
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Post#13 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:52 pm by 21shumpshumpst

Damn this thread made me worried we will lose JR next season. If we only have early bird rights and can offer him 5 million a year max then he is gone for sure. Someone is going to offer him more money than that. :evil: :evil: :(
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Post#14 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:53 pm by fdr2012

21shumpshumpst wrote:Damn this thread made me worried we will lose JR next season. If we only have early bird rights and can offer him 5 million a year max then he is gone for sure. Someone is going to offer him more money than that. :evil: :evil: :(


Who? There is nobody who's giving him more money.
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Post#15 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:53 pm by fdr2012

21shumpshumpst wrote:Damn this thread made me worried we will lose JR next season. If we only have early bird rights and can offer him 5 million a year max then he is gone for sure. Someone is going to offer him more money than that. :evil: :evil: :(


Who? There is nobody who's giving him more money.
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Post#16 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:55 pm by j4remi

I could see the Hawks, Pistons and Kings making runs at JR tbh...but I'm confident that he'll want to stay in NY unless he gets some massive offer that shouldn't happen.
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Post#17 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:57 pm by GratefulDead

fdr2012 wrote:
21shumpshumpst wrote:Damn this thread made me worried we will lose JR next season. If we only have early bird rights and can offer him 5 million a year max then he is gone for sure. Someone is going to offer him more money than that. :evil: :evil: :(


Who? There is nobody who's giving him more money.


Lol this exact thing was said about lin and landry.... "nobody will give them more..."
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Post#18 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:03 pm by fdr2012

j4remi wrote:I could see the Hawks, Pistons and Kings making runs at JR tbh...but I'm confident that he'll want to stay in NY unless he gets some massive offer that shouldn't happen.


Pistons? They are going nowhere and they have been burnt with every FA signing during the past 5 years. They already have Stuckey at the 2. ZERO chance they throw money @ JR.

Kings? The only way they do something is if they waive Tyreke. I doubt they want to pair Cousins with JR.

Hawks? They just signed Lou Williams. ZERO chance they throw money on JR.

JR has a bad rep in the league. He's 27, so he's only good for a win-now team. Nobody is giving him more than $5M.
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Post#19 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:05 pm by Thugger HBC

JR is loyal to a tee.

He won't leave his brother Melo, and his dad, Mr. Woodson.
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Post#20 Re: J.R. SMITH : best price/benefit ratio?
Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:05 pm by fdr2012

GratefulDead wrote:Lol this exact thing was said about lin and landry.... "nobody will give them more..."


Everybody knew Lin was getting offers, if not only for the China marketing appeal. Houston was pretty obvious.
As for Landry - there was only one GM who offered him anything and you're forgetting Landry is known to be a great character glue guy who was only 24.

Nobody wanted JR this summer, so I can't see how or why that changes.
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