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Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby carmelo115 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:07 pm

The Knicks started the season 10-0 at home, looking poised to capture the franchise record.

Now they dropped 6 of their last 10 going 4-6, losing to the likes of Portland, Rockets, twice to the Bulls, Celtics and now the hated Nets.

What the hell happened and can we turn this around. Injuries do play a factor but protecting your own floor must be our first priority if we want to contend in the East. We got to get our opponents intimidated when they play in the Garden, instead they are jacking up threes with no care at all and the worst part is that they are hitting them at a high percentage consistently.

Just look at the Nets, Blazers, Celtics, and even the Bulls of all teams that keep burning us at our own game, the three ball.

Do we need to make a trade? Wait for guys to get healthy? Implement a new defensive philosophy? or just do nothing about it at all?

What do you guys think?
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby Jay10 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:24 pm

14-6

out of 20 home games they lost 6.

isn't that protecting home-court? with d'antoni it probably would've been 6-14
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby NYKBaller on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:40 pm

We're just not good enough right now, simple as that
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby NYKBaller on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:40 pm

We're just not good enough right now, simple as that
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby vdfebduderocks on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:01 pm

what happened to protecting our players while we're at it? When Humphries knocked Prigioni out, that should have signaled that we need to get revenge. Where was that fire from Woodson to put Kurt Thomas or James White in the game to deliver that nasty blow to Humphries' heart (or body) that would debilitate him for a long, long time
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby nykballa2k4 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:08 pm

Team is not committing on defense, we are not making big shots, and Melo is losing his "clutch" factor. His "I am clutch therefore me taking a bad shot is better than passing to an open guy for an easy shot."

Joe Johnson hit a turn around J, Melo air balled after over dribbling and trying to create space on Gerald Wallace.
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby Thugger HBC on Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:09 pm

Jay10 wrote:14-6

out of 20 home games they lost 6.

isn't that protecting home-court? with d'antoni it probably would've been 6-14

14-6 is 9th best in the league, actually the worse record of any contender.

You got teams that have little shot of winning a title with vastly better records at home.
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby fdr2012 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:27 pm

We're a .500 team ATM. When Felton comes back, we'll hopefully get back to being a .700 team and regain home dominance.

We are playing better since Shumpert came back though.
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby carmelo115 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:15 pm

Jay10 wrote:14-6

out of 20 home games they lost 6.

isn't that protecting home-court? with d'antoni it probably would've been 6-14

Losing 6 out of 10 games is not protecting your home-court especially losing to the same team twice (Bulls).
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby Bran Fast Hands on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:26 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:His "I am clutch therefore me taking a bad shot is better than passing to an open guy for an easy shot."


This is one of most disliked things in Basketball. How often do you see a guy chuck a contested bad shot just because he has hit a 20% of game winners attempted in the past? Coaches should really draw up plays knowing the dfense is going to focus on one guy rather then just give the ball to the guy and expect him to get the job done, quite often when he is being double teamed.


Sorry for the OT rant.
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby seren on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:33 pm

Obama happened. They are coming after our guns.

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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby TheGarden on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:39 pm

Its a process guys, we're banged up, STAT and Shumpert are getting acclimated

We're going to lose games the real season comes after the all star break when STAT and Shumpert get in game shape and rhythm, Felton and Camby come back and Wallace comes back if he ever does if not we sign Kenyon Martin and keep it moving

Timing is everything, we started hot and slowed down so obviously we'll get hot when it counts

stop over analyzing every loss, win or slump
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby br7knicks on Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:44 pm

fdr2012 wrote:We're a .500 team ATM. When Felton comes back, we'll hopefully get back to being a .700 team and regain home dominance.

We are playing better since Shumpert came back though.


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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby denterprise on Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:50 pm

TheGarden wrote:Its a process guys, we're banged up, STAT and Shumpert are getting acclimated

We're going to lose games the real season comes after the all star break when STAT and Shumpert get in game shape and rhythm, Felton and Camby come back and Wallace comes back if he ever does if not we sign Kenyon Martin and keep it moving

Timing is everything, we started hot and slowed down so obviously we'll get hot when it counts

stop over analyzing every loss, win or slump


Good points! When you have to re-acclimate as many important players as we have had to do, it can disrupt the flow of your game. Yes there are areas we need to improve on and they better address those areas, but we are no where like we use to be. If we are going to have a slump this is the best time to have one. I believe we are going to make some noise in the playoffs when it really counts. I would rather we struggle now, than wait until the playoffs and not be at the top of our game.
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Re: Whatever happened to protect home-court?

Postby NoLayupRule on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:12 pm

we started hot and have a little bit of a slump right now especially without our PG

everyone calm down

were not the Lakers!!!
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