Footage + Stats of Melo and potential P&R game.

[Crazy8s]

Melo has stated that he wants to play more off the P&R, as quoted below in an interview with another of BSPN's bumbling idiots, Jared Zwerling.

"I want to continue doing that (P&R) and figuring that part out, but that comes along with the territory and the game situation. It's all about just trying to tighten up those screws that you already have, and just having fun with it."

So I thought I'd have fun with the potential outcome, by throwing together some footage of Melo in 3 separate parts of his offensive game: Passing/assists, Driving/P&R, Power + Strength.

The pick-and-roll demands versatility to be effective, and Melo's impressive offensive spread of shooting, passing, quickness, strength, footwork, put-backs and an array of moves, not to mention his advantage against bigs on switches makes for a tantalizing prospect.

Let's take a look at these 3 different (in some ways the same) offensive facets as food for P&R thought.

Assists: 171 Total on the season, 2.6 APG.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejqu5y-Cc80[/youtube]

Very few of these assists were P&R initiated, as you no doubt noticed. But this video is evidence of Melo's ability to make the right pass at the right time. Clearly, though, he sees the floor better when stationary.

Still, the thought of Melo playing more as a P&R facilitator gets all the more encouraging, doesn't it? He's a highly capable passer, and, needless to say, is the focus of any opponent's defense as a scorer. The passing lanes will be open for Melo. That'll be a learning curve.

12-13 Assists break down - not a necessary read for those that aren't number buffs.

● 38% of Melo's dimes were to interior players. The rest were split between 3 point shooters, Particularly JR Smith (29) and Felton (25).

● Who were the next 2 most prolific receivers on the Melo Dimes List? Tyson Chandler (22) and Amar'e Stoudemire (19). Which, if you consider the fact that Melo and STAT only played just over 20 games together, is interesting. Cooking up dreams of these 2 finally playing well together, however, is fool's gold. With STAT's minutes restricted, it's as good as (though less likely than) a fart in a breeze.

● Of those total 171 season assists, 70 of them came in the first quarter of games. As we saw all season, the Knicks came out hot often, but cooled down (sometimes to the point of freezing) throughout the second and third quarters of games.

● In games where the winning margin, win or lose, was less than 5 points, Melo had 86 dimes, a margin of 6 to 10 points 51 dimes, and upward of 10 points 37 dimes.

● Melo had 0 assists in 7 games last season. The Knicks W/L tally for those games, 6-1. That one loss was a 29 point flogging from the GSW in Oakland.

● Games in which Melo threw 5+ assists, the Knicks won .700 of their games, 7-3.

[Crazy8s]

Driving to the hoop/P&R

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st0vjHAWSr0[/youtube]

Of all players that drove the ball a minimum of 40 times in camera recorded games last season, Melo was the league's most efficient. On plays featuring a Carmelo Anthony drive, the Knicks averaged 1.66 points per possession - from 20 feet out to 10 feet in - at any point in each individual possession.

However, in this sample size, Melo only tallied 3.1 drives per game. A mark equivalent to that of Chandler Parsons and Chicago's Luol Deng. Comparatively with loftier peers, Kevin Durant averaged 3.6 DPG, and Paula Pierce 3.7. Starting PGs average between 33-50% more DPG.

In 2012-2013, Melo chalked up 10.6 percent of his shots as the pick-and-roll ball handler. It was a particularly potent offensive go-to, as he shot .479 from the field and dropped an impressive 1.07 points per possession.

In contrast, Melo took up the following numbers offensively:

Isolation, 27.1% - Post up, 20.8% - Spot up 14.6%.

That 10.6% of shots off P&R is almost 3% up from previous seasons throughout his career, and you've gotta wonder if it'll continue to rise in 2013-2014.

Here are references to his shooting, as well, to indicate his preferred places to initiate offense for himself.







Comparative scoring from 12-13; Drive, Pull-Up, Fadeaway. Note that the Drive category does not indicate trips to the line.



☆ One thing you could say goes against him as a P&R player from the above numbers is the pull up %. These shots would become available even more so through P&R, so he'd want to hit them at a better clip.

[Crazy8s]

Power Play

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIvs2_hsTCw[/youtube]

Here we see Melo in all his brutish glory. Sadly, however, sourcing reliable statistics for this was basically useless. But the plays speak for themselves when you consider them as part of a P&R scenario.

The theme here is that Melo, as a top isolation player, has stated that he wants more out of the pick-and-roll. More P&R = more decision making, especially in comparison to that of his isolation game.

But as we've seen since he's been here, a Carmelo Anthony led offense, which it will be even more for the Knicks than it already is if Melo as P&R ball handler becomes staple, leaves very little room for error from his teammates as well as himself.

The dude is an amazing player. But he's a scorer first, there's no denying it. In a perfect world the P&R should elevate his game, would elevate his game.

Personally I'd love to see it happen.

So that's it. Food for thought, numbers and videos. Something to get us all through this BS offseason. As of this very instant, there are 44 days, 21 hours to go until preseason tip off against the laughable Celtics.

Sources:

http://stats.nba.com/playerProfile.h...&GraphStat=AST

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/20...armelo-anthony

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-carmelo-face/

[Bill Pidto]

Yo... Don't have the time to check this out right now, but this is awesome of you. Some serious work you just put down here, and I love watching these types of videos. This is the stuff that separates realGM from other sites. Especially the Knicks board. Some real diehard fans over here. I'll be back.

[Im Coming Home]

Yo... Don't have the time to check this out right now, but this is awesome of you. Some serious work you just put down here, and I love watching these types of videos. This is the stuff that separates realGM from other sites. Especially the Knicks board. Some real diehard fans over here. I'll be back.

Thissss

[Crazy8s]

Yo... Don't have the time to check this out right now, but this is awesome of you. Some serious work you just put down here, and I love watching these types of videos. This is the stuff that separates realGM from other sites. Especially the Knicks board. Some real diehard fans over here. I'll be back.

Haha.

I actually own another NYK forum, but the crew @ RealGM NYK Forums have always been cool about my sharing videos that promote another site, and have always been appreciative of it. I'm happy to add the work I do here. I'll be going pretty hard with video and stats next year, and will continue to share with the lads. Damn good bunch.

[NevaGivinKnixUp]

Awesome work

[Moose]

Yo... Don't have the time to check this out right now, but this is awesome of you. Some serious work you just put down here, and I love watching these types of videos. This is the stuff that separates realGM from other sites. Especially the Knicks board. Some real diehard fans over here. I'll be back.

Haha.

I actually own another NYK forum, but the crew @ RealGM NYK Forums have always been cool about my sharing videos that promote another site, and have always been appreciative of it. I'm happy to add the work I do here. I'll be going pretty hard with video and stats next year, and will continue to share with the lads. Damn good bunch.

Have you ever considered doing more bball writing work? Even fantasy basketball? I see you said you have a forum, but would you wanna do more analytical work? Stat work? Or is that not your strength? Fantasy basketball?

You put together great videos too.

[Haris]

Great as always from @crazy8

[Crazy8s]

Yo... Don't have the time to check this out right now, but this is awesome of you. Some serious work you just put down here, and I love watching these types of videos. This is the stuff that separates realGM from other sites. Especially the Knicks board. Some real diehard fans over here. I'll be back.

Haha.

I actually own another NYK forum, but the crew @ RealGM NYK Forums have always been cool about my sharing videos that promote another site, and have always been appreciative of it. I'm happy to add the work I do here. I'll be going pretty hard with video and stats next year, and will continue to share with the lads. Damn good bunch.

Have you ever considered doing more bball writing work? Even fantasy basketball? I see you said you have a forum, but would you wanna do more analytical work? Stat work? Or is that not your strength? Fantasy basketball?

You put together great videos too.

So far I've done 3 blogs and one video blog/vlog. I'll be taking part in a fantasy league this year at my own site, but between video making and that I'll have 2 plates full. There just aren't enough hours in a day for what I'd like to do as a Knicks fan. Are you asking me for a reason, or is it just out of interest?

Re broadening out, I've managed to recruit 2 wingmen to do statistics and some footage for 13-14 so that's sweet. One is doing advanced (or maybe the word is irregular) stats like "bad shot attempts under pressure" which I'll add the video for. They'll be tallied up over the season and be put in to per game averages, etc. The other wingman is deciding between Shump and Bargnani - or a bit of both - for a season feature on their/their individual ups and downs and progress over the season.

So, yes, I'm busy as is.

[NoLayupRule]

I remember reading last year that Melo is one of the top most efficient scorers in the league when he drives in the first 10 or so secs of a possession

pick and roll in semi-transition would be interesting

combine the core idea of SSOL, to score before the defense is set, with our skills and see what happens

[ny-n-md]

Looking at your Power video brings me to an idea of breaking down how many times Melo gets hit at the rim and no foul is called. I think it would be cool to see how many FGA's count vs. how many should've been called a foul and not a FGA. This makes his FG% lower than what he actually shoots in my opinion. I think he gets hated on for being a high volume scorer, when he doesn't necessarily get the same respect some of the other top players get in terms of contact and whistles. I've seen other top players barely get touched and it's a foul. Melo can be physical but it shouldn't negate the fact that a foul should be called.

[matchman]

I come here to give some And1s, great job crazy8!

[Wildcat]

We need more players to slash/cut to the basket. Brewer was good at that.

[bape_lovers]

Really good read:) I know im not a knick fan..but im a crazy melo fan..definitely should have more posters like you in RGM

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[Priggy Smalls]

crazy8s puttin in work

[adjacent2bench]

Haven't watched any of these yet, but great work and definitely looking forward to take a look.

Not sure if you mentioned but Amar'e and Melo have been pretty good when working the PnR with each other. Don't understand why Woodson doesn't employ it more often.

[GONYK]

Haven't watched any of these yet, but great work and definitely looking forward to take a look.

Not sure if you mentioned but Amar'e and Melo have been pretty good when working the PnR with each other. Don't understand why Woodson doesn't employ it more often.

Because Amare barely plays

When Amare was healthy this season, Melo, Amare, Tyson was our best offensive lineup

[Moose]

Haha.

I actually own another NYK forum, but the crew @ RealGM NYK Forums have always been cool about my sharing videos that promote another site, and have always been appreciative of it. I'm happy to add the work I do here. I'll be going pretty hard with video and stats next year, and will continue to share with the lads. Damn good bunch.

Have you ever considered doing more bball writing work? Even fantasy basketball? I see you said you have a forum, but would you wanna do more analytical work? Stat work? Or is that not your strength? Fantasy basketball?

You put together great videos too.

So far I've done 3 blogs and one video blog/vlog. I'll be taking part in a fantasy league this year at my own site, but between video making and that I'll have 2 plates full. There just aren't enough hours in a day for what I'd like to do as a Knicks fan. Are you asking me for a reason, or is it just out of interest?

Re broadening out, I've managed to recruit 2 wingmen to do statistics and some footage for 13-14 so that's sweet. One is doing advanced (or maybe the word is irregular) stats like "bad shot attempts under pressure" which I'll add the video for. They'll be tallied up over the season and be put in to per game averages, etc. The other wingman is deciding between Shump and Bargnani - or a bit of both - for a season feature on their/their individual ups and downs and progress over the season.

So, yes, I'm busy as is.

Ok cool. I do some work for a fantasy sports site. But currently not getting paid. Hoping that changes there or somewhere else in the future. If they ever need another fantasy basketball guy, I'll send you a PM or something, but I see that you're busy as it is.

I always wanted to start like a fangraphs.com type site for basketball. Really open the floodgates on advanced stats for basketball, but I am not a developer or a statistics guy. I know of a web developer if I ever really wanted to get the ball rolling though. I am also considering taking some stats courses, but I dont believe I would ever be able to do what some of these guys do. They create some great formulas and post some awesome studies.

I would have to find a lot of the right people. I would handle a lot of the fantasy basketball side of stuff, and really, a lot of views and clicks would come from that. Fangraphs admits as much for their site (they do fantasy baseball and also just great research and baseball articles).

I guess in the end, I was more curious than anything. This post you did is something that would interest people. You would have to stretch beyond the Knicks, but you clearly have some skills.

[nykfan42]

They can play together. No one gives them a chance because it's never been for a long period of time. One or the other has been hurt, mostly STAT.