Knicks Pick Up Larkin's Third Year Option

[JSmooth93]

DAL is a championship winning front office, if they gave up on Larkin so fast, it goes to show they didn't see the potential in him

One. Single. Championship.

You think every team gets 100% leverage on a trade? Just because they traded Calderon and Larkin doesn't mean they didn't want them or that they're bad.

You act like the Mavs 'front office' is some NBA brain trust of flawless potential evaluations. Larkin was looking good for a few games in Dallas when he played 15+ minutes. At least that's what I recall the commentators saying.

[Damas]

DAL is a championship winning front office, if they gave up on Larkin so fast, it goes to show they didn't see the potential in him

One. Single. Championship.

You think every team gets 100% leverage on a trade? Just because they traded Calderon and Larkin doesn't mean they didn't want them or that they're bad.

You act like the Mavs 'front office' is some NBA brain trust of flawless potential evaluations. Larkin was looking good for a few games in Dallas when he played 15+ minutes. At least that's what I recall the commentators saying.

The Mavs won a championship against the heat and are a class A organization. The fact that they gave away the kid, shows they didn't see him doing anything special. Great organizations don't give up supposed potential for nothing.

[moocow007]

DAL is a championship winning front office, if they gave up on Larkin so fast, it goes to show they didn't see the potential in him

One. Single. Championship.

You think every team gets 100% leverage on a trade? Just because they traded Calderon and Larkin doesn't mean they didn't want them or that they're bad.

You act like the Mavs 'front office' is some NBA brain trust of flawless potential evaluations. Larkin was looking good for a few games in Dallas when he played 15+ minutes. At least that's what I recall the commentators saying.

The Mavs won a championship against the heat and are a class A organization. The fact that they gave away the kid, shows they didn't see him doing anything special. Great organizations don't give up supposed potential for nothing.

But the Mavs didn't give up on him (Larkin) for nothing. They got Tyson Chandler and they got to shed Jose Calderon's rather large long term contract.

The Mavs are trying to win now and Chandler was a huge part of their only championship team. Cuban has said on numerous occasions prior to the trade that it was a mistake to let Chandler go. Center was the Mavs weakest spot last season and they know that Chandler can fit right in. This was about the Mavs wanting Chandler back. Do you really believe that, despite Chandler's poor season last year that Phil Jackson would just give him up for what he felt was pocket lint?

Look, I'm by no means a fan of Larkins (so by no means am I trying to defend him or make him up to be a future star). But to say that the Mavericks clearly didn't think much of him because they gave him up "for nothing" is just incorrect. They got plenty. They got the best player in the deal and they got to shed a contract commitment which would allow them to then pursue guys like Bosh and Parsons. They are not in a place to have been able to try to develop Larkin (again, win now AND more proven PG's on the roster).

[JSmooth93]

The Mavs won a championship against the heat and are a class A organization. The fact that they gave away the kid, shows they didn't see him doing anything special. Great organizations don't give up supposed potential for nothing.

What does "class A" organization even mean? That's just a buzz word.

Remember when Cuban and his magical front office didn't want to re-sign 30 year old Nash?
Then Cuban said a few years late 'Why couldn't he be an all-star for us?'

All front offices make mistakes. Not saying that trading Larkin is a surefire mistake but Basketball is volatile and you can't just predict the outcome of a player's future based on a few meaningful games of play in their rookie season.

So before anyone makes a decision either way, let's see what the kid does for the two years he's here.

[Meat]

The Mavs won a championship against the heat and are a class A organization. The fact that they gave away the kid, shows they didn't see him doing anything special. Great organizations don't give up supposed potential for nothing.

What does "class A" organization even mean? That's just a buzz word.

Remember when Cuban and his magical front office didn't want to re-sign 30 year old Nash?
Then Cuban said a few years late 'Why couldn't he be an all-star for us?'

All front offices make mistakes. Not saying that trading Larkin is a surefire mistake but Basketball is volatile and you can't just predict the outcome of a player's future based on a few meaningful games of play in their rookie season.

So before anyone makes a decision either way, let's see what the kid does for the two years he's here.

class a= pretty much guaranteed a 50 win season year in and year out

[HarthorneWingo]

hes done nothing to have that option picked up and chew up cap space

$1.2 mm of cap space... (netting out cap hold). Are you serious?

Yeah, right. It's only $1.2 million so what's the harm. That said, I'm not impressed with skill set so far.

[dakomish23]

The potential is there. I might be the only person actively defending the kid but I'm sticking to my guns on this one.

Was who I wanted in the 2015 draft. Smart hard working speedsters are not synonymous with this franchise. Would of easily been our best pg last yr.

At some pt, fans and the media will be excited about this NYK team. Not because the youth are a bunch of all stars, but because without a doubt they're role players in the rotation. Having him, THJ and CEarly means you don't have to worry about saving 10 mil to give to vets to fill in the gaps.

We are sitting real pretty for 2015 & 16

[dakomish23]

DAL is a championship winning front office, if they gave up on Larkin so fast, it goes to show they didn't see the potential in him

One. Single. Championship.

You think every team gets 100% leverage on a trade? Just because they traded Calderon and Larkin doesn't mean they didn't want them or that they're bad.

You act like the Mavs 'front office' is some NBA brain trust of flawless potential evaluations. Larkin was looking good for a few games in Dallas when he played 15+ minutes. At least that's what I recall the commentators saying.

Listened to the Dallas beat writer speak about Larkin last yr. he credits the kid for getting them in the playoffs with a big performance in PHX who they ended up beating out for the 8th spot.

Everyone is looking for a superstar with young guys. How about just a guy who can be a part of your future in some capacity? How often does that happen with the Knicks?!!!

Ppl will appreciate this kid when you stop expecting the told of him. Let him be a role guy and you'll see the value.

[nykballa2k4]

DAL is a championship winning front office, if they gave up on Larkin so fast, it goes to show they didn't see the potential in him

One. Single. Championship.

You think every team gets 100% leverage on a trade? Just because they traded Calderon and Larkin doesn't mean they didn't want them or that they're bad.

You act like the Mavs 'front office' is some NBA brain trust of flawless potential evaluations. Larkin was looking good for a few games in Dallas when he played 15+ minutes. At least that's what I recall the commentators saying.

The Mavs won a championship against the heat and are a class A organization. The fact that they gave away the kid, shows they didn't see him doing anything special. Great organizations don't give up supposed potential for nothing.

Dallas let Nash walk away for nothing and it took them a while to recover.

[JSmooth93]

Listened to the Dallas beat writer speak about Larkin last yr. he credits the kid for getting them in the playoffs with a big performance in PHX who they ended up beating out for the 8th spot.

Everyone is looking for a superstar with young guys. How about just a guy who can be a part of your future in some capacity? How often does that happen with the Knicks?!!!

Ppl will appreciate this kid when you stop expecting the told of him. Let him be a role guy and you'll see the value.

Exactly. Shump, Larkin, Timmy, Early, Aldrich, Acy.

We don't need them to become superstars/all-stars, we just need them to become good.

Last time the Knicks had a collection of Good players, STAT came and then Melo.

/if they're Good then we can land a star like Gasol.

[moocow007]

Just reading a little bit on Mavs fans reactions on the Dallas board when the trade was announced and most all of them hated it. And losing Larkin was one of the more popular reasons they didn't like the trade.

[GardenFaith]

I like the fact that we picked up his option for next year, DJ Augustin is a good example of a similar player with the same skill set that a lot of teams gave away without really giving him a chance.

Shane can get into the lane at will but he never looks to shoot kinda like Prigs so we need him to look at the basket more for his own offense and if things do go south for him in NY then 1.2 mill is easily moved.

[berkkobe7]

They take Tyson and Felton, i would even feel comfortable if they gave us their worst player aka Bernard James.


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[duetta]

Haven't been especially impressed by Larkin so far - but it's early in his development cycle. $1.2 for a backup is not going to kill your free agent play, especially now the Knicks will have additional shots at FAs once the new cap numbers start kicking in.

[Phish Tank]

if Larkin continues to watch old tape of guys like BJ Armstrong, Tyronn Lue, & Jordan Farmar, then he will survive the triangle.

Otherwise, all in all, picking up the option was not a question in my opinion.

[Thugger HBC]

One. Single. Championship.

You think every team gets 100% leverage on a trade? Just because they traded Calderon and Larkin doesn't mean they didn't want them or that they're bad.

You act like the Mavs 'front office' is some NBA brain trust of flawless potential evaluations. Larkin was looking good for a few games in Dallas when he played 15+ minutes. At least that's what I recall the commentators saying.

The Mavs won a championship against the heat and are a class A organization. The fact that they gave away the kid, shows they didn't see him doing anything special. Great organizations don't give up supposed potential for nothing.

Dallas let Nash walk away for nothing and it took them a while to recover.

Pretty sure they went to the finals 2 years later. Thats the recovery time of a papercut.

[nykballa2k4]

The Mavs won a championship against the heat and are a class A organization. The fact that they gave away the kid, shows they didn't see him doing anything special. Great organizations don't give up supposed potential for nothing.

Dallas let Nash walk away for nothing and it took them a while to recover.

Pretty sure they went to the finals 2 years later. Thats the recovery time of a papercut.

They had to get a replacement. If not for Kidd no rings. Cuban let Chandler walk for free, then had to suffer through a few very boring years then had to give up minor assets to get him back while giving up his starting point guard and taking the hamburgler on his team. What were the "big FAs" he got for his patience? Monta Ellis and Chandler Parsons. He got 2 nice role players at the cost of defending a title. Chandler won DPOY and was an all-star while he was in NY. Meanwhile Mavericks only had one player make the all-star team in Dirk.

Cuban is a risk taker. He is one of the best owners in basketball, but the Mavericks DO make mistakes. The only organization that seemingly makes all perfect moves would be the Spurs.

For more examples of talent the Mavericks "let get away" only to scoop them up later at a better time: Jason Kidd, Devin Harris.

[Thugger HBC]

Dallas let Nash walk away for nothing and it took them a while to recover.

Pretty sure they went to the finals 2 years later. Thats the recovery time of a papercut.

They had to get a replacement. If not for Kidd no rings. Cuban let Chandler walk for free, then had to suffer through a few very boring years then had to give up minor assets to get him back while giving up his starting point guard and taking the hamburgler on his team. What were the "big FAs" he got for his patience? Monta Ellis and Chandler Parsons. He got 2 nice role players at the cost of defending a title. Chandler won DPOY and was an all-star while he was in NY. Meanwhile Mavericks only had one player make the all-star team in Dirk.

Cuban is a risk taker. He is one of the best owners in basketball, but the Mavericks DO make mistakes. The only organization that seemingly makes all perfect moves would be the Spurs.

For more examples of talent the Mavericks "let get away" only to scoop them up later at a better time: Jason Kidd, Devin Harris.

But it didnt take them a while to recover, they went to the finals 2 years are letting Nash walk, while Nash has yet to get there himself. Seems like Dallas recovered just fine.

I certainly hope this debate isnt becoming which organization has done better over the last decade or so....it's Dallas by a landslide.

[nykballa2k4]

Pretty sure they went to the finals 2 years later. Thats the recovery time of a papercut.

They had to get a replacement. If not for Kidd no rings. Cuban let Chandler walk for free, then had to suffer through a few very boring years then had to give up minor assets to get him back while giving up his starting point guard and taking the hamburgler on his team. What were the "big FAs" he got for his patience? Monta Ellis and Chandler Parsons. He got 2 nice role players at the cost of defending a title. Chandler won DPOY and was an all-star while he was in NY. Meanwhile Mavericks only had one player make the all-star team in Dirk.

Cuban is a risk taker. He is one of the best owners in basketball, but the Mavericks DO make mistakes. The only organization that seemingly makes all perfect moves would be the Spurs.

For more examples of talent the Mavericks "let get away" only to scoop them up later at a better time: Jason Kidd, Devin Harris.

But it didnt take them a while to recover, they went to the finals 2 years are letting Nash walk, while Nash has yet to get there himself. Seems like Dallas recovered just fine.

I certainly hope this debate isnt becoming which organization has done better over the last decade or so....it's Dallas by a landslide.

Clearly not going that direction. The debate is that Dallas is an all-knowing wizard of oz talent evaluators

[Thugger HBC]

They had to get a replacement. If not for Kidd no rings. Cuban let Chandler walk for free, then had to suffer through a few very boring years then had to give up minor assets to get him back while giving up his starting point guard and taking the hamburgler on his team. What were the "big FAs" he got for his patience? Monta Ellis and Chandler Parsons. He got 2 nice role players at the cost of defending a title. Chandler won DPOY and was an all-star while he was in NY. Meanwhile Mavericks only had one player make the all-star team in Dirk.

Cuban is a risk taker. He is one of the best owners in basketball, but the Mavericks DO make mistakes. The only organization that seemingly makes all perfect moves would be the Spurs.

For more examples of talent the Mavericks "let get away" only to scoop them up later at a better time: Jason Kidd, Devin Harris.

But it didnt take them a while to recover, they went to the finals 2 years are letting Nash walk, while Nash has yet to get there himself. Seems like Dallas recovered just fine.

I certainly hope this debate isnt becoming which organization has done better over the last decade or so....it's Dallas by a landslide.

Clearly not going that direction. The debate is that Dallas is an all-knowing wizard of oz talent evaluators

Pretty sure the discussion was about Dallas being a championship based A-class organization. The simple fact they let Nash walk for nada and still did better and continued to do so cements this.

The irony of this whole discussion is Dallas got the better player back and rid themselves of a contract that hinders their goals. They did well...thats what they do, been doing so for a while now.