Knicks Vs. Craptors PG...Well we tried.

[thebuzzardman]

5-21.

Type it again.. that looks beautiful to me.

I'm sorry but tanking and getting a good pick won't turn your team around lol

Hmm, so tanking doesn't work, and apparently trading away picks for FA's doesn't work, and getting Phil Jackson to keep Dolan's head out of his ass doesn't work, so I guess it's all hopeless.

We turn to you, Craptor fan, for advice on how to keep hope alive through many years of having a sh*tty franchise. I mean, not like as Knick fans we don't know, but you guys seem to have a good handle on it, so fill us in.

[god shammgod]

There's nothing we can do in the next two years to makes this into a good enough team to be enticing to FA's. So instead of worrying about that, let's just start developing our core and deal with the other stuff when the time comes.

i don't think they can fix it. and what you're saying is fine. you're not dealing with reality though. that's not gonna happen and you know it. phil sold getting free agents here now he has to. the same way walsh had to and we ended up with amare. it's gonna fail most likely. when you try something like this every step has to be executed perfectly and we already see steps that have gone wrong. what can you do. hope for the best.

My biggest hope is that Phil (Mother **** Jackson Bitches) has enough clout to switch gears into the tank with Dolan. Sell him on the alternative. And maybe he already has. I mean, at a certain point Dolan has to move away from his "if plan A fails try Plan A" philosophy. Right? RIGHT?!?!?!

no. because the plan is to make money. you gotta sell the network to advertisers, to other cable companies, you gotta sell season ticket plans and luxury boxes. merch, food etc. and you gotta answer to the stockholders. this is a place full of diehards and after 1 bad month we're tuning out of a lot of games. they're gonna want this fixed by next year.

[Capn'O]

i don't think they can fix it. and what you're saying is fine. you're not dealing with reality though. that's not gonna happen and you know it. phil sold getting free agents here now he has to. the same way walsh had to and we ended up with amare. it's gonna fail most likely. when you try something like this every step has to be executed perfectly and we already see steps that have gone wrong. what can you do. hope for the best.

My biggest hope is that Phil (Mother **** Jackson Bitches) has enough clout to switch gears into the tank with Dolan. Sell him on the alternative. And maybe he already has. I mean, at a certain point Dolan has to move away from his "if plan A fails try Plan A" philosophy. Right? RIGHT?!?!?!

no. because the plan is to make money. you gotta sell the network to advertisers, to other cable companies, you gotta sell season ticket plans and luxury boxes. merch, food etc. and you gotta answer to the stockholders. this is a place full of diehards and after 1 bad month we're tuning out of a lot of games. they're gonna want this fixed by next year.

"Winning isn't integral to the strategy." That whole thing. Probably f*cked.


I think the fanbase could be sold on sucking properly though. I really do. I'd take a full upheaval 20 times out of 20 over the hoodwink strategy. Heck, the games are even more entertaining this year than last, imo. More competitive. Just more losses.

[pkiskool]

Type it again.. that looks beautiful to me.

I'm sorry but tanking and getting a good pick won't turn your team around lol

Hmm, so tanking doesn't work, and apparently trading away picks for FA's doesn't work, and getting Phil Jackson to keep Dolan's head out of his ass doesn't work, so I guess it's all hopeless.

We turn to you, Craptor fan, for advice on how to keep hope alive through many years of having a sh*tty franchise. I mean, not like as Knick fans we don't know, but you guys seem to have a good handle on it, so fill us in.

Trade Melo to Lakers for Robert Sacre, Ryan Kelly, Ronnie Price and Boozer (and Boozer refuses to come).
We did something similar with Vince.
Wait patiently for Bargnani to develop.
We waited 7 years.
Start with that, I'll give you more tips some other day.

[Capn'O]

Wait patiently for Bargnani to expire.

fify

[Rasho Brezec]

We suck like we haven't sucked in a while and the games are still sold out. This is just a Dolan excuse.

[Deeeez Knicks]

My biggest hope is that Phil (Mother **** Jackson Bitches) has enough clout to switch gears into the tank with Dolan. Sell him on the alternative. And maybe he already has. I mean, at a certain point Dolan has to move away from his "if plan A fails try Plan A" philosophy. Right? RIGHT?!?!?!

no. because the plan is to make money. you gotta sell the network to advertisers, to other cable companies, you gotta sell season ticket plans and luxury boxes. merch, food etc. and you gotta answer to the stockholders. this is a place full of diehards and after 1 bad month we're tuning out of a lot of games. they're gonna want this fixed by next year.

"Winning isn't integral to the strategy." That whole thing. Probably f*cked.


I think the fanbase could be sold on sucking properly though. I really do. I'd take a full upheaval 20 times out of 20 over the hoodwink strategy. Heck, the games are even more entertaining this year than last, imo. More competitive. Just more losses.

we have sucked for the last 15 years or so. whats another few months? we will not be good either way.

Phil just needs to keep hoodwinkin Dolan, the advertisers, and the celebs for a few more months.

[mpharris36]

We suck like we haven't sucked in a while and the games are still sold out. This is just a Dolan excuse.

more so than tickets, ratings are huge, Advertisers pay a ton of money to be on MSG network. If people aren't watching the games the ratings will suck. And advertisers won't pay for a network that isn't being watched.

[Capn'O]

no. because the plan is to make money. you gotta sell the network to advertisers, to other cable companies, you gotta sell season ticket plans and luxury boxes. merch, food etc. and you gotta answer to the stockholders. this is a place full of diehards and after 1 bad month we're tuning out of a lot of games. they're gonna want this fixed by next year.

"Winning isn't integral to the strategy." That whole thing. Probably f*cked.


I think the fanbase could be sold on sucking properly though. I really do. I'd take a full upheaval 20 times out of 20 over the hoodwink strategy. Heck, the games are even more entertaining this year than last, imo. More competitive. Just more losses.

we have sucked for the last 15 years or so. whats another few months? we will not be good either way.

Phil just needs to keep hoodwinkin Dolan, the advertisers, and the celebs for a few more months.

Yeah - that's what the PMFJB moniker is for. If he can't do it, nobody can. Keep that tank a' rollin' Phil!

[jonazzz]

Knickstape was a legend during the nets/raptors series. why can't you peeps be just as cool, and you know... join the bandwaggon

And like one poster said " both teams won last night "

[JN]

Something I've always wondered is whether Raptor fans ever sit back and wish they had drafted LaMarcus Aldridge instead of Bargs.

Our punishment was 7 years of negative play and a wasted first round pick. Heck we would have been better off drafting Adam Morrison and getting rid of the problem after 3 years. Getting the Knicks/Nuggest first round pick is nice but will never make up for the prolonged years of anguish.

[Capn'O]

Something I've always wondered is whether Raptor fans ever sit back and wish they had drafted LaMarcus Aldridge instead of Bargs.

Our punishment was 7 years of negative play and a wasted first round pick. Heck we would have been better off drafting Adam Morrison and getting rid of the problem after 3 years. Getting the Knicks/Nuggest first round pick is nice but will never make up for the prolonged years of anguish.

FYI - that post wasn't for the decent Raptor folk. Unfortunately, it's hard to parse through who is who ATM. A lot of real problems passing through.

No doubt. Unmitigated disaster for y'all. We've had our fair share of those, as well.

[moocow007]

Stoudemire with 5 steals and diving all over the place? Can this be real?

[ibraheim718]

"Winning isn't integral to the strategy." That whole thing. Probably f*cked.


I think the fanbase could be sold on sucking properly though. I really do. I'd take a full upheaval 20 times out of 20 over the hoodwink strategy. Heck, the games are even more entertaining this year than last, imo. More competitive. Just more losses.

we have sucked for the last 15 years or so. whats another few months? we will not be good either way.

Phil just needs to keep hoodwinkin Dolan, the advertisers, and the celebs for a few more months.

Yeah - that's what the PMFJB moniker is for. If he can't do it, nobody can. Keep that tank a' rollin' Phil!

The moniker took a hit when that previously banned poster used it as his screen name.

[VanDamme]

Why are you still here?

...and don't come for ctorres. Us Knicks fans argue amongst ourselves. We don't need help from craptor fans.

yeah!! We all know greenie is batsh*t crazy but we don't need no stinkin craptor fan telling us...

Did you just call me crazy?

Has anyone ever told you that you look like Beyonce?

[god shammgod]

Stoudemire with 5 steals and diving all over the place? Can this be real?

[KnicksGod]

I'm sorry but tanking and getting a good pick won't turn your team around lol

Hmm, so tanking doesn't work, and apparently trading away picks for FA's doesn't work, and getting Phil Jackson to keep Dolan's head out of his ass doesn't work, so I guess it's all hopeless.

We turn to you, Craptor fan, for advice on how to keep hope alive through many years of having a sh*tty franchise. I mean, not like as Knick fans we don't know, but you guys seem to have a good handle on it, so fill us in.

Trade Melo to Lakers for Robert Sacre, Ryan Kelly, Ronnie Price and Boozer (and Boozer refuses to come).
We did something similar with Vince.
Wait patiently for Bargnani to develop.
We waited 7 years.
Start with that, I'll give you more tips some other day.

I like your sig because the core of the Raptors team that is having such good success was built by Bryan C, and the coach was hired by him too.

[NYKinMIA]

I can't believe these craptor muthafuqas are still in here talking yang.

[Greenie]

yeah!! We all know greenie is batsh*t crazy but we don't need no stinkin craptor fan telling us...

Did you just call me crazy?

Has anyone ever told you that you look like Beyonce?

Have I not told you to leave me alone?

I don't like Craptor fans.

[Greenie]

I can't believe these craptor muthafuqas are still in here talking yang.

The game was yesterday and yet they are still here.