Timmy Traded to ATL for Jerian Grant

[gavran]

Mark Jackson was picked 18th, and that's all I gots to say about that.

Rod Strictland drafted the very next year at 17

Grant patterned his game after Strickland he said

Makes sense, some of his best season he was Harvey's teammate.

[stuporman]

Awesome breakdown on Grant.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/6/26/8851395/know-the-draftee-jerian-grant

*Snippets*

"Jerian Grant is 6'5", 204 pounds. He'll turn 23 shortly before the new season begins. His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things. Lots of things. Last year he averaged 16.5 points, 6.6 assists, 3 rebounds and 1.7 steals for Notre Dame, leading the ACC in assists per game and assist percentage, as well as free throws made and attempted and win shares (Jahlil who?).

His strengths are his size, his passing, and his ability to create offense for himself and his teammates. Grant led all collegians last year producing 1.45 points per half court possession via a shot or an assist (minimum 500 possessions). He hit 55% on runners and shots at the rim; his assist-to-turnover ratio was slightly better than three to one. His 57% shooting on twos was tops among Draft Express's top 100 guards.

Grant shows his ability to find the open man. Most intriguing in these clips is how often Grant finds the best open man, rather than the first open man. One of the biggest steps the Knicks can take in their march toward a respectable NBA offense would be smarter possessions that more frequently result in getting what they want, rather than what the defense will give them.

Six-foot-five point guards who can post and pass -- GIVE. A shade under 60% of Grant's post-ups resulted in passes, which resulted in 1.54 points per possession on such plays, which is a terrific number. The Triangle requires players who can post and who can make the smartest pass out of double-teams."

Dammmmm... good stuff

[BallSacBounce]

Sexy find Stuporman.

I can't wait for this kid to show his stuff. We got incredibly lucky to add him this year.

[BallSacBounce]

Men that aren't good at basketball... men that are 38 years old or men that played two seasons for the Kings and couldn't cut it...

Stop with this CBA > NCAA garbage.

Why? It is the truth. Only on this board do people think that the NCAA is better than any pro league. Most of the NCAA are players who aren't good enough to play in the bottom rung leagues around the world.

And what do you think the CBA is comprised of? NBA flameouts and NCAA players who aren't good enough to play in the bottom rung leagues around the world. The notion is absurd IMO. Jerian Grant went up against the national champs twice. Michigan State, UNC, Kentucky, Louisville... the list goes on. Mudiay went up against Pooh Jeter, 38 year old Marbury and a guy who delivers food in the offseason.

Yo that's racist.

[Capn'O]

His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things.

Well damn.

Awesome breakdown on Grant.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/6/26/8851395/know-the-draftee-jerian-grant

*Snippets*

"Jerian Grant is 6'5", 204 pounds. He'll turn 23 shortly before the new season begins. His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things. Lots of things. Last year he averaged 16.5 points, 6.6 assists, 3 rebounds and 1.7 steals for Notre Dame, leading the ACC in assists per game and assist percentage, as well as free throws made and attempted and win shares (Jahlil who?).

His strengths are his size, his passing, and his ability to create offense for himself and his teammates. Grant led all collegians last year producing 1.45 points per half court possession via a shot or an assist (minimum 500 possessions). He hit 55% on runners and shots at the rim; his assist-to-turnover ratio was slightly better than three to one. His 57% shooting on twos was tops among Draft Express's top 100 guards.

Grant shows his ability to find the open man. Most intriguing in these clips is how often Grant finds the best open man, rather than the first open man. One of the biggest steps the Knicks can take in their march toward a respectable NBA offense would be smarter possessions that more frequently result in getting what they want, rather than what the defense will give them.

Six-foot-five point guards who can post and pass -- GIVE. A shade under 60% of Grant's post-ups resulted in passes, which resulted in 1.54 points per possession on such plays, which is a terrific number. The Triangle requires players who can post and who can make the smartest pass out of double-teams."

Dammmmm... good stuff

Similar to Kaminsky, as a senior he _should_ be doing everything better than most of the league. He just happens to be one of the few prospects that stayed around long enough to do it. Less financial pressure in his family than many.

But he did it and his head looks ready to be a good pro. That separates him from many prospect. I don't see a lot in his athleticism that should limit him. I'm thrilled with this pickup.

[stuporman]

His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things.

Well damn.

Awesome breakdown on Grant.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/6/26/8851395/know-the-draftee-jerian-grant

*Snippets*

"Jerian Grant is 6'5", 204 pounds. He'll turn 23 shortly before the new season begins. His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things. Lots of things. Last year he averaged 16.5 points, 6.6 assists, 3 rebounds and 1.7 steals for Notre Dame, leading the ACC in assists per game and assist percentage, as well as free throws made and attempted and win shares (Jahlil who?).

His strengths are his size, his passing, and his ability to create offense for himself and his teammates. Grant led all collegians last year producing 1.45 points per half court possession via a shot or an assist (minimum 500 possessions). He hit 55% on runners and shots at the rim; his assist-to-turnover ratio was slightly better than three to one. His 57% shooting on twos was tops among Draft Express's top 100 guards.

Grant shows his ability to find the open man. Most intriguing in these clips is how often Grant finds the best open man, rather than the first open man. One of the biggest steps the Knicks can take in their march toward a respectable NBA offense would be smarter possessions that more frequently result in getting what they want, rather than what the defense will give them.

Six-foot-five point guards who can post and pass -- GIVE. A shade under 60% of Grant's post-ups resulted in passes, which resulted in 1.54 points per possession on such plays, which is a terrific number. The Triangle requires players who can post and who can make the smartest pass out of double-teams."

Dammmmm... good stuff

Similar to Kaminsky, as a senior he _should_ be doing everything better than most of the league. He just happens to be one of the few prospects that stayed around long enough to do it. Less financial pressure in his family than many.

But he did it and his head looks ready to be a good pro. That separates him from many prospect. I don't see a lot in his athleticism that should limit him. I'm thrilled with this pickup.

What strikes me is the sheer number of things he does so well, a ton of effective and efficient skills, no one trick pony.

[earthmansurfer]

His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things.

Well damn.

Awesome breakdown on Grant.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/6/26/8851395/know-the-draftee-jerian-grant

*Snippets*

"Jerian Grant is 6'5", 204 pounds. He'll turn 23 shortly before the new season begins. His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things. Lots of things. Last year he averaged 16.5 points, 6.6 assists, 3 rebounds and 1.7 steals for Notre Dame, leading the ACC in assists per game and assist percentage, as well as free throws made and attempted and win shares (Jahlil who?).

His strengths are his size, his passing, and his ability to create offense for himself and his teammates. Grant led all collegians last year producing 1.45 points per half court possession via a shot or an assist (minimum 500 possessions). He hit 55% on runners and shots at the rim; his assist-to-turnover ratio was slightly better than three to one. His 57% shooting on twos was tops among Draft Express's top 100 guards.

Grant shows his ability to find the open man. Most intriguing in these clips is how often Grant finds the best open man, rather than the first open man. One of the biggest steps the Knicks can take in their march toward a respectable NBA offense would be smarter possessions that more frequently result in getting what they want, rather than what the defense will give them.

Six-foot-five point guards who can post and pass -- GIVE. A shade under 60% of Grant's post-ups resulted in passes, which resulted in 1.54 points per possession on such plays, which is a terrific number. The Triangle requires players who can post and who can make the smartest pass out of double-teams."

Dammmmm... good stuff

Similar to Kaminsky, as a senior he _should_ be doing everything better than most of the league. He just happens to be one of the few prospects that stayed around long enough to do it. Less financial pressure in his family than many.

But he did it and his head looks ready to be a good pro. That separates him from many prospect. I don't see a lot in his athleticism that should limit him. I'm thrilled with this pickup.

There are lots of seniors, juniors and sophomores on teams. The math is easy. How many guys go to the NBA each year or overseas to play professionally? Subtract that from the remaining thousands of college players. I know you like the guy but what Grant did is not really the result of being a senior. He is an extremely skilled one who would have left last year had he not been on academic suspension. Thanks for letting us get him.

I am going to bet that he finishes in the top 10 as far as rookies go. And would not be shocked if he is top 5 (He was actually a top 5 player according to a few this year, based on production though, not upside.)

[Capn'O]

His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things.

Well damn.

Awesome breakdown on Grant.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2015/6/26/8851395/know-the-draftee-jerian-grant

*Snippets*

"Jerian Grant is 6'5", 204 pounds. He'll turn 23 shortly before the new season begins. His game is the polar opposite of Hardaway's, which is to say Grant does things. Lots of things. Last year he averaged 16.5 points, 6.6 assists, 3 rebounds and 1.7 steals for Notre Dame, leading the ACC in assists per game and assist percentage, as well as free throws made and attempted and win shares (Jahlil who?).

His strengths are his size, his passing, and his ability to create offense for himself and his teammates. Grant led all collegians last year producing 1.45 points per half court possession via a shot or an assist (minimum 500 possessions). He hit 55% on runners and shots at the rim; his assist-to-turnover ratio was slightly better than three to one. His 57% shooting on twos was tops among Draft Express's top 100 guards.

Grant shows his ability to find the open man. Most intriguing in these clips is how often Grant finds the best open man, rather than the first open man. One of the biggest steps the Knicks can take in their march toward a respectable NBA offense would be smarter possessions that more frequently result in getting what they want, rather than what the defense will give them.

Six-foot-five point guards who can post and pass -- GIVE. A shade under 60% of Grant's post-ups resulted in passes, which resulted in 1.54 points per possession on such plays, which is a terrific number. The Triangle requires players who can post and who can make the smartest pass out of double-teams."

Dammmmm... good stuff

Similar to Kaminsky, as a senior he _should_ be doing everything better than most of the league. He just happens to be one of the few prospects that stayed around long enough to do it. Less financial pressure in his family than many.

But he did it and his head looks ready to be a good pro. That separates him from many prospect. I don't see a lot in his athleticism that should limit him. I'm thrilled with this pickup.

There are lots of seniors, juniors and sophomores on teams. The math is easy. How many guys go to the NBA each year or overseas to play professionally? Subtract that from the remaining thousands of college players. I know you like the guy but what Grant did is not really the result of being a senior. He is an extremely skilled one who would have left last year had he not been on academic suspension. Thanks for letting us get him.

I am going to bet that he finishes in the top 10 as far as rookies go. And would not be shocked if he is top 5 (He was actually a top 5 player according to a few this year, based on production though, not upside.)

Sure - but I also expect the same of Kaminsky.

My point is that you can't compare what he did to what other prospects did. These statistical gymnastics are difficult to interpret because Jerian Grant to Cam Payne to D'Angelo Russell (to Emmanual Mudiay ) aren't apples to apples. Grant, you'd expect to have the most developed game because he stayed in a development league for 4 years.

He's more of a WYSIWYG as opposed to the curve that you make for these other guys. But what we see is a guy that's ready to play point guard at the pro level.

[Nazrmohamed]

^^^^^^ sounds good

[earthmansurfer]

Well damn.



Similar to Kaminsky, as a senior he _should_ be doing everything better than most of the league. He just happens to be one of the few prospects that stayed around long enough to do it. Less financial pressure in his family than many.

But he did it and his head looks ready to be a good pro. That separates him from many prospect. I don't see a lot in his athleticism that should limit him. I'm thrilled with this pickup.

There are lots of seniors, juniors and sophomores on teams. The math is easy. How many guys go to the NBA each year or overseas to play professionally? Subtract that from the remaining thousands of college players. I know you like the guy but what Grant did is not really the result of being a senior. He is an extremely skilled one who would have left last year had he not been on academic suspension. Thanks for letting us get him.

I am going to bet that he finishes in the top 10 as far as rookies go. And would not be shocked if he is top 5 (He was actually a top 5 player according to a few this year, based on production though, not upside.)

Sure - but I also expect the same of Kaminsky.

My point is that you can't compare what he did to what other prospects did. These statistical gymnastics are difficult to interpret because Jerian Grant to Cam Payne to D'Angelo Russell (to Emmanual Mudiay ) aren't apples to apples. Grant, you'd expect to have the most developed game because he stayed in a development league for 4 years.

He's more of a WYSIWYG as opposed to the curve that you make for these other guys. But what we see is a guy that's ready to play point guard at the pro level.

Statistically maybe, but what about Stephen Curry - he was a Junior when he came out and he sure kept developing?
How does one differentiate one who reached there potential? And to boot Curry wasn't even really thought to be that athletic.
I use him as an example as the both have incredible court awareness, Curry being an incredible shooter though.

[NYman15]

Marc Berman @NYPost_Berman
Good news heard today was Pat Riley really liked PG Jerian Grant, considered him at 10 but was no-brainer when Justise Winslow fell.

[New_Hawks_Era]

The real issue is how great he's going to look in those new Hawks unis (especially the black ) next season when the Hawks come to MSG. He drops 30 with 5 threes in at least one of the games between the Hawks/Knicks next season. Who doubts it? It always happens.

[Blue Ninja]

The real issue is how great he's going to look in those new Hawks unis (especially the black ) next season when the Hawks come to MSG. He drops 30 with 5 threes in at least one of the games between the Hawks/Knicks next season. Who doubts it? It always happens.

Maybe on 30 shots, with no assists and terrible defense.

[New_Hawks_Era]

The real issue is how great he's going to look in those new Hawks unis (especially the black ) next season when the Hawks come to MSG. He drops 30 with 5 threes in at least one of the games between the Hawks/Knicks next season. Who doubts it? It always happens.

Maybe on 30 shots, with no assists and terrible defense.

One thing though, he's on an established winning culture now, not that albatross Knick team of last year. The dire situation proceeded him I believe into looking twice as worse of a player he really is. When Korver arrived in ATL he was widely considered a horrid defensive player across most of the NBA society. That's not the case today, in effect he is an actual very comfortable defensive player now. I don't think it's out of Hardaway's scope to become a decent defensive player on a team/organization that emphasizes/expects it.

[Blue Ninja]

The real issue is how great he's going to look in those new Hawks unis (especially the black ) next season when the Hawks come to MSG. He drops 30 with 5 threes in at least one of the games between the Hawks/Knicks next season. Who doubts it? It always happens.

Maybe on 30 shots, with no assists and terrible defense.

One thing though, he's on an established winning culture now, not that albatross Knick team of last year. The dire situation proceeded him I believe into looking twice as worse of a player he really is. When Korver arrived in ATL he was widely considered a horrid defensive player across most of the NBA society. That's not the case today, in effect he is an actual very comfortable defensive player now. I don't think it's out of Hardaway's scope to become a decent defensive player on a team/organization that emphasizes/expects it.

He just doesn't have the lateral quickness. Same thing as in college. He came from a good program. This one isn't on the Knicks. THJ is just bad dude.

[New_Hawks_Era]

Maybe on 30 shots, with no assists and terrible defense.

One thing though, he's on an established winning culture now, not that albatross Knick team of last year. The dire situation proceeded him I believe into looking twice as worse of a player he really is. When Korver arrived in ATL he was widely considered a horrid defensive player across most of the NBA society. That's not the case today, in effect he is an actual very comfortable defensive player now. I don't think it's out of Hardaway's scope to become a decent defensive player on a team/organization that emphasizes/expects it.

He just doesn't have the lateral quickness. Same thing as in college. He came from a good program. This one isn't on the Knicks. THJ is just bad dude.

I respectfully disagree, but seeing is believing and I will have my full view of his game next season. Good Luck with Grant he looks like a heck of a player.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Pat the Rat almost stole him away

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/616344584663265280[/tweet]

[stuporman]

Grant is going to light Timmay up and lock him down. I will laugh.

[Juco24]

Jerian Grant is really having a nice SL. This kid does his best to get others involved and when that doesn't work - he looks to put the team on his back. I am truly impressed with his maturity and mannerisms.

By the way,,,, Mr. Calderon sir - your position is about to be taken!

[DrCoach]

what a great job Phil did