More value Lopez or 2018 1st?
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I feel bad for Rolo.
[Rolo plays poorly]
Fans: Eff this guy...trade his ass.
[Rolo plays well]
Fans: Good job...now trade his ass!
[Rolo plays poorly]
Fans: Eff this guy...trade his ass.
[Rolo plays well]
Fans: Good job...now trade his ass!
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Everything hinges on Melo.
Melo staying - keep Lopez
Melo leaving - blow everything up and focus on KP
Melo staying - keep Lopez
Melo leaving - blow everything up and focus on KP
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nykballa2k4 wrote:Bill Pidto wrote:Knicks have both. So I say, keep both and keep building. Not sure what fans are expecting back in a trade at the moment. It's not like there's reports of a deal on the table that hinges on either of these things, and the Knicks are too far from contention to think they are just one trade away. Why force RoLo or the pick down other teams' throats when Robin has been fantastic, and we have a chance to keep him AND continue to draft pieces of our core.
When you sign a player, and when you draft a player, you give nothing up in return. When you trade for a player, by definition, you lose something in the process. Knicks are not at that stage.
While I love keeping our guys, I will say that if the opportunity arose this summer (of all summers) to obtain a key piece and 2018 was the sticking point, I may give in. We need a guard with penetration ability. If it is the right player and at the right price, and removes, say a Jose Calderon in the process, then IMO it is a deal we almost have to do. Obviously no trading unprotected picks, but if we were to move say Jose Calderon and 2018 for Jrue Holiday (for example), then we are spending less on a pg than we would via FA and keeping open cap space for another fish.
Similarly, I would entertain a deal where we move 2018 to get a guy we want THIS year. IE TIMOTHE LUWAWU, if we can use 2018 to get that pick.
Gone, should be the days, of using something like 2018 to get a guy like Brandon Jennings.
I think an interesting thought would be Dragic + 2nd round pick for Calderon +2018
Good points. I do agree.. of course if the right deal came along, you make it. I just disagree with some fans' notion that we should be shopping RoLo and the pick just because it seems like the right thing to do. It seems like we should go for the gusto and use whatever assets we have to get better next season. I would rather grow from within.
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tho i dont think you need to trade lopez if there is a chance of getting first round picks for him and first round picks for melo then we should unload them both now and tank this bitch hard for one season and load up at the lottery buffet table
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There's no reason to trade RoLo. Roster continuity matters.
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sure. lets create another hole in our starting lineup. it's not like we don't have enough of those already.
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Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.
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Marty McFly wrote:sure. lets create another hole in our starting lineup. it's not like we don't have enough of those already.
holes are good for tank movement
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CluelessJackson wrote:tho i dont think you need to trade lopez if there is a chance of getting first round picks for him and first round picks for melo then we should unload them both now and tank this bitch hard for one season and load up at the lottery buffet table
Phil: Hey Jim, I got a plan
Phil: I want to start over, which involves trading Melo for young unknown players and draft picks and rebuilding from the ground up
Phil: I believe it will be the wise move to make. I cant make this team into a contender that fast, I strongly believe we need to start over. What do you say?
Dolan: Phil, get the F out my office, pack your stuff, you are fired. Get Isiah on the phone
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CluelessJackson wrote:Marty McFly wrote:sure. lets create another hole in our starting lineup. it's not like we don't have enough of those already.
holes are good for tank movement
have you see our record this year? we don't need to add another one. are backcourt will guide us there just fine.
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Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.
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SMAC-K wrote:CluelessJackson wrote:tho i dont think you need to trade lopez if there is a chance of getting first round picks for him and first round picks for melo then we should unload them both now and tank this bitch hard for one season and load up at the lottery buffet table
Phil: Hey Jim, I got a plan
Phil: I want to start over, which involves trading Melo for young unknown players and draft picks and rebuilding from the ground up
Phil: I believe it will be the wise move to make. I cant make this team into a contender that fast, I strongly believe we need to start over. What do you say?
Dolan: Phil, get the F out my office, pack your stuff, you are fired. Get Isiah on the phone
STEVE MILLS: Hey Jim I got a plan. Fire Phil, Hire Blatt, Trade Melo and Lopez and tank hard
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Why not both?
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Knicks are rebuilding on the fly. Lopez is good but he isn't untradeable.
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Lopez is more valuable than anything that we'd get back if we trade him.
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Keep Rolo. He's a good center, especially at the price and he's allowing KP to get a knack for rebounding. I'm against trading Rolo because we'd get f*cked in the trade anyway and end up with Jose 2.0 for another 3 years
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