The knicks need to sign chanson Randel

waya · Post #42 » by **waya** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:57 pm

I prefer Baker 100% but it shouldn't be one or the other. They were both impressive enough for camp invites and possibly a roster spot

Post #43 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:45 pm

Moose wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
j4remi wrote:
If I'm not mistaken there are 15 spots, but two players are left inactive on a game night. So there's still 2 opening to fill even if those guys don't dress every night.

I would be extremely surprised if Plumlee actually does anything but sit in a suit in the 2nd row for the bulk of the 82 game season. It doesn't make sense to play him with the more advanced WHG on the roster unless some major injuries happen.

I thought the idea behind plumlee's contract, which made his first season fully guaranteed, is so he can start off in the D-league?

I believe no one can scoop him up if that's the case.

I'm honestly not sure what the point of giving him a guaranteed contract was. IMHO he wasn't going to get snatched up by anyone other than maybe some team in Europe. It's more likely that some other team would snatch up Baker or Randle. I'm actually kind of puzzled by the contract.

Post #44 » by **j4remi** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:48 pm

moocow007 wrote:I'm honestly not sure what the point of giving him a guaranteed contract was. IMHO he wasn't going to get snatched up by anyone other than maybe some team in Europe. It's more likely that some other team would snatch up Baker or Randle. I'm actually kind of puzzled by the contract.

I think Baker's locked up too but it's a non-guaranteed contract. The only one floating is Randle, which is a serious head scratcher since he's arguably been the best of all three.

P.S. I wonder if Plumlee is really a Hornacek guy lol that one is legit strange. T-Rex arms ain't gettin' stolen.

reub · Post #45 » by **reub** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:20 pm

Hornacek could develop Baker and Randle!

Post #46 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:14 pm

j4remi wrote:
moocow007 wrote:I'm honestly not sure what the point of giving him a guaranteed contract was. IMHO he wasn't going to get snatched up by anyone other than maybe some team in Europe. It's more likely that some other team would snatch up Baker or Randle. I'm actually kind of puzzled by the contract.

I think Baker's locked up too but it's a non-guaranteed contract. The only one floating is Randle, which is a serious head scratcher since he's arguably been the best of all three.

P.S. I wonder if Plumlee is really a Hornacek guy lol that one is legit strange. T-Rex arms ain't gettin' stolen.

Yeah. Between the lack of basketball skills and the T-Rex arms I'm not sure who the Knicks were worried about. Maybe Abby Hornacek digs the dude? :dontknow:

MDDN48 · Post #47 » by **MDDN48** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:28 pm

kej718 wrote:Don't we have all 13 roster spots filled?

1 Joakim Noah
2 Willy Hernangómez
3 Marshall Plumlee
4 Kristaps Porzingis
5 Kyle O'Quinn
6 Carmelo Anthony
7 Lance Thomas
8 Mindaugas Kuzminskas
9 Courtney Lee
10 Justin Holiday
11 Ron Baker
12 Derrick Rose
13 Brandon Jennings

How many of these are guaranteed?

The league maximum is 15.. ..so two left open.

OnTheWagon · Post #48 » by **OnTheWagon** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:33 pm

I'll do the rare thing and trust that Phil and his scouting staff know what the hell they're doing. There are so many factors that we can't see.
How a player impacts chemistry, his bball IQ, his ability to play within the team defense/offense, and work ethic should all come into play. Heck, I still remember Ndour. Wonder how he's doing....

I'm sure Javale Mcgee would absolutely dominate and wreck summer league, but we all know that we should stay far far away. Right? I certainly hope most of us do anyway.

CJackson · Post #49 » by **CJackson** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:46 pm

OnTheWagon wrote:I'll do the rare thing and trust that Phil and his scouting staff know what the hell they're doing. There are so many factors that we can't see.
How a player impacts chemistry, his bball IQ, his ability to play within the team defense/offense, and work ethic should all come into play. Heck, I still remember Ndour. Wonder how he's doing....

I'm sure Javale Mcgee would absolutely dominate and wreck summer league, but we all know that we should stay far far away. Right? I certainly hope most of us do anyway.

Coach K just gushed about him

http://dailyknicks.com/2016/07/11/knicks-coach-k-calls-marshall-plumlee-the-perfect-backup/

Juggynaut · Post #50 » by **Juggynaut** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:49 pm

I'm still holding out hope we cut Marshall Plumlee, I'll rather have our D-League C Jordan Bachynski over him.

KayCSmooth · Post #51 » by **KayCSmooth** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:58 pm

I agree that Randle should definitely get a shot at camp! My only problem with Baker is if they were to sign Sasha and a veteran minimum center, that means we don't have a 3rd PG to backup Jennings if Rose goes down(or needs rest). I think Randle is a great 3rd option backup which is a must have imo. I think Baker struggles running point and should make the final roster as a 2 only if Sasha doesn't. We need that 3rd PG badly.

Coeur · Post #52 » by **Coeur** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:35 am

Jared Cunningham is better than both of them. get Cunningham or some other better player and those guys I would love to see seven or eight guys compete for the last five spots but NBA teams just don't do that. give them all guaranteed money and wave them if they are one of the two or three that don't make it. I don't think Plumlee is an NBA player I hope both he and Baker are

Ndour
Plum
Cunningham
Jimmer
Sasha
Baker
Randle
G green
Holiday

all competing for the last five roster spots. a true competition with carmelo Noah Rose and KP not even playing. would be unbelievable to see who's the best of those players could be in a true competition

HarthorneWingo · Post #53 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:58 am

captvict wrote:Yes bring him in. We need insurance for when Rose goes down. Love his game. Prolific scorer

Rose/Jennings/randle
Lee/baker/holiday
Carmelo/kuz/Lft
Kp/koq/
Noah/Wilkie/plumlee

That's 14.

That looks about right, unless we trade KOQ.

You already have Baker in front of Holiday. :lol:

HarthorneWingo · Post #54 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:58 am

Where's Ndour? What's he doing these days?

Dantares · Post #55 » by **Dantares** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:40 am

so with the sasha and ndour signing does this mean Randel probably won't make the team?

nykfan42 · Post #56 » by **nykfan42** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:41 am

So this Randle kat can ball? or nah. We need another PG.

DrCoach · Post #57 » by **DrCoach** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:48 am

Dantares wrote:so with the sasha and ndour signing does this mean Randel probably won't make the team?

He would have to beat out Plumlee, Ndour or Baker

Dantares · Post #58 » by **Dantares** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:02 am

DrCoach wrote:
Dantares wrote:so with the sasha and ndour signing does this mean Randel probably won't make the team?

He would have to beat out Plumlee, Ndour or Baker

don't see a need for 5 centers so I think plumlee should get cut.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #59 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:03 am

KOQ IS THE BACKUP C.

Rose/Jennings/Baker?
Lee/Holiday/Sasha
Melo/KOOZE
KP/LFT/N'dour
Noah/KOQ/Willy/Plumlee

We have no open spots. Camp invites will be fighting for what exactly? Baker is the only partially gtd player. We have too many bigs AGAIN! I like all of the players... except Plumlee who doesn't impress much.

DrCoach · Post #60 » by **DrCoach** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:17 am

Dantares wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Dantares wrote:so with the sasha and ndour signing does this mean Randel probably won't make the team?

He would have to beat out Plumlee, Ndour or Baker

don't see a need for 5 centers so I think plumlee should get cut.

We dont have 5 Centers, I get the feeling Phil likes Plumlee.