Phil has done well, and his evolution as GM
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There's no difference in 17 points vs 19 points....team success will be the ultimate decider in at the end of the day. He can average 28 and we can miss the playoffs or he can average 18 and we can win 55 games. Ultimately its about winning. I think we need to keep in my mind that winning will always give you an advantage when team building whether it be adding quality scouts and front office personnel, Elite coaches looking to take us to the next level and of course free agents.
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Umm under Phil we've won less games in three seasons than the Warriors won in one season. Let's curb our enthusiasm here. We haven't won anything. We thought our team was decent a couple of years ago and had the worst record in our franchises history. Granted we did need to get rid of JR and Shump. Tyson had quit on the team everyone seems to forget that before the trade he just stopped caring. People want to crown him executive of the year or whatever sorry that needs to go to Boston, Toronto, Golden State or the Spurs. We haven't won anything yet let's atleast play out the first 30 games before we assess how this off season went.
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KnIcKsYaNkSmEtS1127 wrote:Umm under Phil we've won less games in three seasons than the Warriors won in one season. Let's curb our enthusiasm here. We haven't won anything. We thought our team was decent a couple of years ago and had the worst record in our franchises history. Granted we did need to get rid of JR and Shump. Tyson had quit on the team everyone seems to forget that before the trade he just stopped caring. People want to crown him executive of the year or whatever sorry that needs to go to Boston, Toronto, Golden State or the Spurs. We haven't won anything yet let's atleast play out the first 30 games before we assess how this off season went.
While I agree with a good chunk of those post, I will also say that it takes more than 3 seasons to build a team identity. However, I think this year looks to be the year that we finally break through. Phil learned a lot these past 3 seasons, and the fact that he hired Hornacek is a sign that he's ready to change his stubborn approach and make necessary adjustments. We'll see how it goes.
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I like the moves that have been made and am excited for the season, but a lot can go wrong...hope for the best, prepare for the worst
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Deeeez Knicks wrote:I like the moves that have been made and am excited for the season, but a lot can go wrong...hope for the best, prepare for the worst
We have our pick. Going wrong won't be as bad now as it was in the past.
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GONYK wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:I like the moves that have been made and am excited for the season, but a lot can go wrong...hope for the best, prepare for the worst
We have our pick. Going wrong won't be as bad now as it was in the past.
The line in the sand Phil drew this past year with keeping our 2018 pick was so glorious. It's like I don't even need to argue about stuff anymore.
I'm all like "NO! WE'RE NOT IN POSITION TO TRADE FUTURE FIRST ROUND PICKS BECAUSE... eh, Phil's got it covered."
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Capn'O wrote:GONYK wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:I like the moves that have been made and am excited for the season, but a lot can go wrong...hope for the best, prepare for the worst
We have our pick. Going wrong won't be as bad now as it was in the past.
The line in the sand Phil drew this past year with keeping our 2018 pick was so glorious. It's like I don't even need to argue about stuff anymore.
I'm all like "NO! WE'RE NOT IN POSITION TO TRADE FUTURE FIRST ROUND PICKS BECAUSE... eh, Phil's got it covered."
I didn't know how sexually arousing retaining our first round picks could be
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CJackson wrote:Capn'O wrote:GONYK wrote:
We have our pick. Going wrong won't be as bad now as it was in the past.
The line in the sand Phil drew this past year with keeping our 2018 pick was so glorious. It's like I don't even need to argue about stuff anymore.
I'm all like "NO! WE'RE NOT IN POSITION TO TRADE FUTURE FIRST ROUND PICKS BECAUSE... eh, Phil's got it covered."
I didn't know how sexually arousing retaining our first round picks could be
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BAF Clippers
PG: CP3 | SGA
SG: SGA | Big Ragu
SF: J Brown | Dorture Chamber
PF: Gordon | Niang
C: Capela | Sharpe
Deep Bench - Forrest | Oladipo | Fernando | Young | Svi | Cody Martin
PG: CP3 | SGA
SG: SGA | Big Ragu
SF: J Brown | Dorture Chamber
PF: Gordon | Niang
C: Capela | Sharpe
Deep Bench - Forrest | Oladipo | Fernando | Young | Svi | Cody Martin
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Do you guys think that Knicks would have had a chance to get Wade? We all thought that Wade was pulling a Grant hill, but he did leave. That makes me wonder if Phill should had went hard on Wade. We probably wouldnt be able to re-sign Lance Thomas.
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Capn'O wrote:CJackson wrote:Capn'O wrote:
The line in the sand Phil drew this past year with keeping our 2018 pick was so glorious. It's like I don't even need to argue about stuff anymore.
I'm all like "NO! WE'RE NOT IN POSITION TO TRADE FUTURE FIRST ROUND PICKS BECAUSE... eh, Phil's got it covered."
I didn't know how sexually arousing retaining our first round picks could be
You stay away from my mole.
If Danny Trejo can't handle it, then I'm out
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Rodimus921 wrote:Do you guys think that Knicks would have had a chance to get Wade? We all thought that Wade was pulling a Grant hill, but he did leave. That makes me wonder if Phill should had went hard on Wade. We probably wouldnt be able to re-sign Lance Thomas.
In honesty Lee is a better fit in the starting lineup than Wade. Still would've been fun to have a Rose Wade Melo KP Noah lineup
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ciregno wrote:KnIcKsYaNkSmEtS1127 wrote:Umm under Phil we've won less games in three seasons than the Warriors won in one season. Let's curb our enthusiasm here. We haven't won anything. We thought our team was decent a couple of years ago and had the worst record in our franchises history. Granted we did need to get rid of JR and Shump. Tyson had quit on the team everyone seems to forget that before the trade he just stopped caring. People want to crown him executive of the year or whatever sorry that needs to go to Boston, Toronto, Golden State or the Spurs. We haven't won anything yet let's atleast play out the first 30 games before we assess how this off season went.
While I agree with a good chunk of those post, I will also say that it takes more than 3 seasons to build a team identity. However, I think this year looks to be the year that we finally break through. Phil learned a lot these past 3 seasons, and the fact that he hired Hornacek is a sign that he's ready to change his stubborn approach and make necessary adjustments. We'll see how it goes.
While I'll give him credit for wanting Kerr he's also the guy who brought in Fisher. Phil also said he himself did a great job last year.
And even after he hired Hornachek he comes out and blamed the players for not being able to run the triangle. I know if my boss had a company that was performing crappy the last 3 years I want to hear him say he messed up not that his employees suck. I hope this is the year we turn it around but we are putting this season on the knees and shoulders of Rose and Noah, pun intended.
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GONYK wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:I like the moves that have been made and am excited for the season, but a lot can go wrong...hope for the best, prepare for the worst
We have our pick. Going wrong won't be as bad now as it was in the past.
That is definitely true. Thank you Phil for that.
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Rodimus921 wrote:Do you guys think that Knicks would have had a chance to get Wade? We all thought that Wade was pulling a Grant hill, but he did leave. That makes me wonder if Phill should had went hard on Wade. We probably wouldnt be able to re-sign Lance Thomas.
If it wasnt for the Rose trade, we would have gotten Wade I think for the following reasons:
1) He is boys with Melo
2) He would have been a better fit here than in Chicago
3) His wife wanted to come here for career purposes.
4) Wade coming to NYK to make them a contender would have really been sticking it to Riley who he is mad at.
I think an interesting question is would Lopez/Wade have been better to have here than Noah/Rose? And who would we have been able to get if we went that route?
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Wade's gonna turn into a pumpkin this year. Book it!
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porzingis is the only thing he has to show for (so far)
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DaGawd wrote:Rodimus921 wrote:Do you guys think that Knicks would have had a chance to get Wade? We all thought that Wade was pulling a Grant hill, but he did leave. That makes me wonder if Phill should had went hard on Wade. We probably wouldnt be able to re-sign Lance Thomas.
In honesty Lee is a better fit in the starting lineup than Wade. Still would've been fun to have a Rose Wade Melo KP Noah lineup
At that point, you should just bench KP, and bring Greg Oden over from China.
Rose Wade Melo Noah Oden - not a knee that has been opened.
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Sark wrote:DaGawd wrote:Rodimus921 wrote:Do you guys think that Knicks would have had a chance to get Wade? We all thought that Wade was pulling a Grant hill, but he did leave. That makes me wonder if Phill should had went hard on Wade. We probably wouldnt be able to re-sign Lance Thomas.
In honesty Lee is a better fit in the starting lineup than Wade. Still would've been fun to have a Rose Wade Melo KP Noah lineup
At that point, you should just bench KP, and bring Greg Oden over from China.
Rose Wade Melo Noah Oden - not a knee that has been opened.
Fumes are taking their toll
You need to stop smelling your hand
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CJackson wrote:Sark wrote:DaGawd wrote:In honesty Lee is a better fit in the starting lineup than Wade. Still would've been fun to have a Rose Wade Melo KP Noah lineup
At that point, you should just bench KP, and bring Greg Oden over from China.
Rose Wade Melo Noah Oden - not a knee that has been opened.
Fumes are taking their toll
You need to stop smelling your hand
Working as intended.
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Getting rid of Hardaway was a good move. Even if Grant isn't good, it helped get Rose.
Phil has signed guys on good contracts too which is an underrated aspect of President.
That also helped in the Rose trade (Lopez contract).
KOQ isn't that good but he's better than his contract, IMHO.
All of the guys that are on the team are basically trade-able. Maybe except Noah (until he proves he's worth it).
For the market price, C-Lee is a great value. Carmelo is a heck of a value at this moment. If Willy, Kuzaminkas turn out to be good, they are on STEAL values.
Phil has signed guys on good contracts too which is an underrated aspect of President.
That also helped in the Rose trade (Lopez contract).
KOQ isn't that good but he's better than his contract, IMHO.
All of the guys that are on the team are basically trade-able. Maybe except Noah (until he proves he's worth it).
For the market price, C-Lee is a great value. Carmelo is a heck of a value at this moment. If Willy, Kuzaminkas turn out to be good, they are on STEAL values.