IllmaticHandler wrote:Knickstape1214 wrote:KnicksGod wrote:Some of you guys are a little nutty. 7 boards, 2 offensive, 4 assists and a steal, +5, in 21 minutes is a disaster?
It sucks that he's not a 2-way big in his prime but I think we kind of knew that. He is also not a total loss on offense either. Give him some time to get going there too.
He's not playing badly and the cap went up a lot. He's still better than Tyson Influenza in his prime.
Curious what you mean by "Give him some time to get going [on offense]." He's never been a scorer and as his lower body injuries compounded with his shoulder issues, his finishing ability has gone to ****.
IMO, there's no reason to expect anything more than dunks or layups. He's an awesome passer, yes, but his scoring hasn't been efficient since 2012 and won't be going forward.
Also, chill with the Tyson stuff. He was a great defender when he first got here.
Oh You aint know? Noah Turns into another player as the year goes on.....
I think Tyson was always overrated, I really do. Such a huge liability on O. If you couldn't lob him, he sucked. His 1 on 1 D was overrated. He didn't shotblock.
I don't think Tyson has ever really been good. Nice help defender. Super overrated.
Noah is different. His passing alone makes him valuable. He still seems to be moving fine. I absolutely would not even think about amnesty for him now. We badly need the things he brings.
No he's not an All-Star or a 2-way big. We knew that. He is not durable either. But he will score a few more points as he gets his legs going. He hasn't looked bad rolling and going to the hole. He can occasionally hit a shot.
I suspect we'll see some 8-12 point games here and there. Good enough because I still think his team D and passing are major assets we badly need. He just seems like someone to complain about when we're not complaining about Lance. The very fact that Noah has been out there and moving reasonably well is good.
He was never some really fast big with any really reliable offensive skills. He is moving pretty close to how he used to. Never been a big jumper. He's healthy and his body seems okay. Good enough for now.