2023 New York Yankees Thread

[KnicksGadfly]

Meanwhile, the greatest pitcher of all time Yoshinobu Yamamoto got shelled yesterday.

Not as bad as Ohtani's translator...he's definitely taking the fall

He's facing the FBI. If he's going to be the fall guy, he's insane.

He implicated Ohtani yesterday, then all of a sudden the Dodgers claim that he stole the money? Alright....

Ohtani’s spokesperson said one thing yesterday and then the next day, the lawyers retracted it…yea, that’s not fishy

[HarthorneWingo]

Looks like you might be bringing Jordan Montgomery back. Solid move if you do.

[KnicksGadfly]

Looks like you might be bringing Jordan Montgomery back. Solid move if you do.

JD Martinez is a good one. You guys can probably even trade him if he does well

[HarthorneWingo]

Looks like you might be bringing Jordan Montgomery back. Solid move if you do.

JD Martinez is a good one. You guys can probably even trade him if he does well

The Mets signed him?

Wow, 1 year deal worth only $12 million. I thought that there was some real competition for him and that JD would get a 2 year deal out of it. I'll take it.

I think we're going to have problems at 3B with Baty. I'm still not seeing it and his defense is atrocious.

[KnicksGadfly]

There’s a pitcher that’s shown he can handle NYC, do well in the postseason, and is reliable and durable. Hal needs to pay up. Are we really gonna trade for another Athletics starter?

[moocow007]

There’s a pitcher that’s shown he can handle NYC, do well in the postseason, and is reliable and durable. Hal needs to pay up. Are we really gonna trade for another Athletics starter?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, hi my name is “Brian”.

[KnicksGadfly]

Montgomery signs in Arizona for $25/1. Hal is such a cheap shyt.

[moocow007]

Montgomery signs in Arizona for $25/1. Hal is such a cheap shyt.

I saw that. Was the same thought that popped to mind.

That's ok. He's going to end up sending a whole bunch of prospects to Arizona before the deadline for Montgomery. That way he only has to deal with half of Montgomery's contract hitting their tax.

[KnicksGadfly]

Montgomery signs in Arizona for $25/1. Hal is such a cheap shyt.

I saw that. Was the same thought that popped to mind.

That's ok. He's going to end up sending a whole bunch of prospects to Arizona before the deadline for Montgomery. That way he only has to deal with half of Montgomery's contract hitting their tax.

lol look at this...Hal, this stuff only works for the Dodgers because everyone knows they're trying to win.

It also really grates me that Hal voted for these rules that he’s using as an excuse not to spend.

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[ccvle]

Scott boras probably sold the idea to snell, montgomery, and bellinger to take higher aav but shorter deals because it worked out for Correa but they are taking a big risk. If they can't get the deal they want this year despite having the best seasons of their career(at least for snell and montgomery) then what are the likelihood they will get it next season?

[MrDollarBills]

Montgomery signs in Arizona for $25/1. Hal is such a cheap shyt.

Small Market Hal strikes again.

[ccvle]

Montgomery signs in Arizona for $25/1. Hal is such a cheap shyt.

Small Market Hal strikes again.

Do you think Hal didn't even offer a 25m contract to him or are you saying they should have offered him a long term contract to lock him up?

I'm just wondering, why Montgomery went with Arizona. Were there no other teams out there willing to offer a 1+1 deal with just 25m for year 1?

My guess is he didn't want to sign a one year deal with any teams that didn't have any interest in offering him a long term contract.

[MrDollarBills]

The tax. It all comes back to the tax. Hal didn't want to pay taxes on a 1 year 25m deal. From what i read they allegedly offered a deal with a lot of deferred money.

Montgomery would have been a fool to take that versus 25m up front. Money now > money later.

I hope fans are prepared for what happens with Soto this winter...I don't think he'll be back. Cashman has this team so f*cked. We are nearly at 300m salary combined and I'm at a loss as to where this money is even going

[Rich Rane]

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A catcher who was third on depth chart with no options left along with the Yankees's 28th best prospect for a solid utility backup. Berti has speed and can somewhat hold down every position. Slashed .294/.344/.405 in 133 games last season for the Marlins.

[NYKinMIA]

I don't know how many of you follow the Yankees on any of their social media platforms, but I find it rather ridiculous that they celebrate meaningless Spring Training wins.

They’re done with the championship or bust mentality.

Seems like you guys are missing a leader and some extra talent. If your farm system is looking good, then bide your time. But if it's cobwebs, then it may be time to eat some money and sell off some assets to re-stock the farm.

missing a leader?!! have you been skipping your meds wingy?

[KnicksGadfly]

Montgomery signs in Arizona for $25/1. Hal is such a cheap shyt.

Small Market Hal strikes again.

Do you think Hal didn't even offer a 25m contract to him or are you saying they should have offered him a long term contract to lock him up?

I'm just wondering, why Montgomery went with Arizona. Were there no other teams out there willing to offer a 1+1 deal with just 25m for year 1?

My guess is he didn't want to sign a one year deal with any teams that didn't have any interest in offering him a long term contract.

Benefit of the doubt should only go to the people who deserve it. Hal has already shown who he is. He probably didn’t want to offer the 1 year, with the tax the way it is.

[moocow007]

Montgomery signs in Arizona for $25/1. Hal is such a cheap shyt.

Small Market Hal strikes again.

Do you think Hal didn't even offer a 25m contract to him or are you saying they should have offered him a long term contract to lock him up?

I'm just wondering, why Montgomery went with Arizona. Were there no other teams out there willing to offer a 1+1 deal with just 25m for year 1?

My guess is he didn't want to sign a one year deal with any teams that didn't have any interest in offering him a long term contract.

I think Hal was looking only at the bottom line and that line was not spending anything big now they are in the highest tax threshold. So no I don't think Hal was even willing to offer a 1 year $25 million contract. Hal Steinbrenner has shown throughout his ownership tenure than that tax is what he hates the most. That's why he traded for Stanton (believe it or not). Not only did he think that Bryce Harper was going to cost much more AAV (and that's before the Marlins agreed to pay part of Stantons contract) but he also managed to shed a year or two (don't remember) of Starlin Castro's contract (which honestly wasn't that that huge to begin in general and especially considering Castro's production...unless you are counting every bean towards that tax). It's also why he gave both DJL and Hicks those long term low AAV deals. All 3 of those contracts have backfired and weighed down the flexibility of this team to make moves but saved him from having to pay into the tax.

[MrDollarBills]

Small Market Hal strikes again.

Do you think Hal didn't even offer a 25m contract to him or are you saying they should have offered him a long term contract to lock him up?

I'm just wondering, why Montgomery went with Arizona. Were there no other teams out there willing to offer a 1+1 deal with just 25m for year 1?

My guess is he didn't want to sign a one year deal with any teams that didn't have any interest in offering him a long term contract.

I think Hal was looking only at the bottom line and that line was not spending anything big now they are in the highest tax threshold. So no I don't think Hal was even willing to offer a 1 year $25 million contract. Hal Steinbrenner has shown throughout his ownership tenure than that tax is what he hates the most. That's why he traded for Stanton (believe it or not). Not only did he think that Bryce Harper was going to cost much more AAV (and that's before the Marlins agreed to pay part of Stantons contract) but he also managed to shed a year or two (don't remember) of Starlin Castro's contract (which honestly wasn't that that huge to begin in general and especially considering Castro's production...unless you are counting every bean towards that tax). It's also why he gave both DJL and Hicks those long term low AAV deals. All 3 of those contracts have backfired and weighed down the flexibility of this team to make moves but saved him from having to pay into the tax.

Thank God, because the last thing we would want the owner of a 7bil franchise to do is to pay tax.

[Luv those Knicks]

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A catcher who was third on depth chart with no options left along with the Yankees' 28th best prospect for a solid utility backup. Berti has speed and can somewhat hold down every position. Slashed .294/.344/.405 in 133 games last season for the Marlins.

Moving the catcher was smart (3 team trade, so Rortvedt will probably make the Ray's team.). Rays trade Shane Sasaki (their #30 prospect) to Miami and Yanks send John Cruz (#28), to Miami. Two top 30 prospects for a defensive specialist who has a break out year of sorts last year. Solid return for the Marlins.

Cruz is a lottery ticket. Low floor but high ceiling type with legit upside. Not everyone is happy about it, but Berti was 2.4 war last year and he's able to play pretty much anywhere and steal bases. Interesting trade. I'm sure the Mets were interested in Berti as well. He's their kind of player and they have some questions at 3rd base this and next year. Marlins just fishing for prospects.

[KnicksGadfly]

Small Market Hal strikes again.

Do you think Hal didn't even offer a 25m contract to him or are you saying they should have offered him a long term contract to lock him up?

I'm just wondering, why Montgomery went with Arizona. Were there no other teams out there willing to offer a 1+1 deal with just 25m for year 1?

My guess is he didn't want to sign a one year deal with any teams that didn't have any interest in offering him a long term contract.

I think Hal was looking only at the bottom line and that line was not spending anything big now they are in the highest tax threshold. So no I don't think Hal was even willing to offer a 1 year $25 million contract. Hal Steinbrenner has shown throughout his ownership tenure than that tax is what he hates the most. That's why he traded for Stanton (believe it or not). Not only did he think that Bryce Harper was going to cost much more AAV (and that's before the Marlins agreed to pay part of Stantons contract) but he also managed to shed a year or two (don't remember) of Starlin Castro's contract (which honestly wasn't that that huge to begin in general and especially considering Castro's production...unless you are counting every bean towards that tax). It's also why he gave both DJL and Hicks those long term low AAV deals. All 3 of those contracts have backfired and weighed down the flexibility of this team to make moves but saved him from having to pay into the tax.

Don't forget all those years where he didn't spend as much as he could, while giving the fans a promise that he would spend later...whoops, guess that didn't happen. Also remember how he didn't want to pay for Snell because of the draft pick and loss of international money? Whoops, I guess he couldn't afford Montgomery's 0 penalties either.

“I’ve always said our ultimate goal is to win a world championship and if that doesn’t happen, we have failed in that goal. But no, I’m not going to look at the season and say it was a failure." And that is why Hal Steinbrenner does not give a ****.