Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender

[Nicnac]

Mcbride is our best defender by far. And grimes plays scared. Rushes his shots and is left open often by other teams.

Not sure why they want to create this fantasy. Just develop him

[nyknicks09]

He reminds me of a Bruce Bowen type of player. Needs to develop and earn the starting job. He’s not better than IQ, or Hart or DDV right now. Thibs starts him but plays him like a bench player with his minutes.

I hope he starts making those open shots cause if he doesn’t, he’s just another Bruce Bowen and that’s not bad. I just hope the Knicks don’t overpay or overvalue him too much in a trade where they don’t pull the trigger.

[Iron Mantis]

Mcbride is our best defender by far.

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And grimes plays scared.

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Rushes his shots and is left open often by other teams.

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Not sure why they want to create this fantasy. Just develop him

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Thank you Jerry for making Grimes untouchable to keep Donovan Mitchell off the Knicks.

[thebuzzardman]

Mcbride is our best defender by far. And grimes plays scared. Rushes his shots and is left open often by other teams.

Not sure why they want to create this fantasy. Just develop him

Grimes got the nod over McBride last year because McBride basically stunk on offense.

Thibs praised both of them, eventually gave the nod to Grimes because his offense, for all its inconsistency, was further along than McBride's.

McBride being maybe 6 feet tall doesn't help his case either, especially if the idea is to play someone along Brunson.

Unless the plan would be to start IQ and let McBride get the backup PG minutes and then cut Grimes out of the rotation, which the way Grimes has been playing, is possible.

None of any of the young player's development is helped by Thibs insistance that the offense be the top 2 players dominating the ball all game long, with RJ getting the majority of the leftovers.

The other 6 players in the rotation are there to dunk, space the floor and get 20 shots a game in total, maybe.
Most of which IQ is going to take, since that's who he is, a gunner, and now he's playing for a contract.

Also: STFU & GTFO

[2010]

I been saying this for a while. The more you play Grimes the more his value decreases. The idea of what Grimes is supposed to be is worth more than what he actually is.

[Guano]

well damn - kirkland klay is getting cooked by a ballboy.

[thebuzzardman]

Should be a fun experiment to have Brunson and McBride on the floor together for 28 minutes and see what happens when either one of them is switched onto a SF, which is who McBride winds up guarding at least 1/3 of the time.

Might as well triple down and bench RJ for IQ, since IQ is the superior defender to RJ.

Two best defenders starting. Knicks should start dominating, right?

[robillionaire]

4 games in and Knicks fans knives are out!

We should have traded him in a package for jrue

[Jalen Bluntson]

There's ALREADY a Grimes thread. Now STFU AND GTFO BALLBAG!

[Sethaholic16]

Grimes career trajectory resembles Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. A useful 3&D player rotation player. Players you pay maybe $10-13m for, and they're usually pretty easy to find.

[Iron Mantis]

There's ALREADY a Grimes thread. Now STFU AND GTFO BALLBAG!

3 Grimes threads, actually

[2010]

Grimes career trajectory resembles Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. A useful 3&D player rotation player. Players you pay maybe $10-13m for, and they're usually pretty easy to find.

Courtney Lee

[Sethaholic16]

Grimes career trajectory resembles Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. A useful 3&D player rotation player. Players you pay maybe $10-13m for, and they're usually pretty easy to find.

Courtney Lee

Exactly, that's another good comp for what Grimes is projecting to become. Solid player, but really a dime a dozen. Is Grimes any different from a Malik Beasley who just signed for the minimum? Grimes should absolutely be part of any trade that can net you a true difference maker. His role is easily replaceable.

[Capn'O]

kirkland klay

Grimes career trajectory resembles Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. A useful 3&D player rotation player. Players you pay maybe $10-13m for, and they're usually pretty easy to find.

KCP was a gunner though who has reined it in and become ultra efficient. Very different approach. Lee or Green fits better.

[Reign23]

the tide turns on him already, huh? I knew that was coming..
Just had a bad start to the season. he will be fine!

[Hes_On_Fire]

the tide turns on him already, huh? I knew that was coming..
Just had a bad start to the season. he will be fine!

It’s not really a bad start - he looks exactly the same.

There’s been no growth to his game.

And it’s looking like there may never be.

He’s still a solid role player but he’s definitely becoming overrated in terms of his value in a trade. There are plenty of players like him.

[dakomish23]

Kid has played 97 mins. 93 of those have been with both Brunson and Randle on the floor. Let’s see what he does separated from the ISO ball before we prematurely give up on the kid

[Reign23]

the tide turns on him already, huh? I knew that was coming..
Just had a bad start to the season. he will be fine!

It’s not really a bad start - he looks exactly the same.

There’s been no growth to his game.

And it’s looking like there may never be.

He’s still a solid role player but he’s definitely becoming overrated in terms of his value in a trade. There are plenty of players like him.

oh I know. his potential and value were really overrated in here imo. he is still fine as a 3 and d guy.

[rajajackal]

Kid has played 97 mins. 93 of those have been with both Brunson and Randle on the floor. Let’s see what he does separated from the ISO ball before we prematurely give up on the kid

it's precisely why i think he should come off the bench instead. he can develop as a scorer with that unit. start iq. imo brunson benefits more from a 2 way combo guard next to him to keep the offense moving and so he can find positions without having to dribble the ball through swarming defenses once in a while

[3toheadmelo]

He looks a lot better when RJ isn’t playing. Not a knock on RJ who has been playing well this season. But Grimes just looks better in an extended role. Will likely just be a 3 and D player in the starting lineup