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Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender

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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#202 » by robillionaire » Wed Dec 6, 2023 3:24 am

Dude gotta go

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Post#203 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 6, 2023 6:18 am

Sorry but Grimes needs some tough love.
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Post#204 » by ScienceOfLosing » Wed Dec 6, 2023 6:34 am

He was one made shot away from having a perfect shooting night.
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Post#205 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Dec 6, 2023 7:28 am

I’ve seen him create with the basketball. We’re not using our players correctly. Our better players need a free flowing offense to thrive. You can’t freeze IQ, DD, Hart or Grimes out. Randle and RJ tend to make ball movement impossible.
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Post#206 » by Nazrmohamed » Wed Dec 6, 2023 12:43 pm

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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#207 » by johanliebert » Wed Dec 6, 2023 8:17 pm

Hes always in foul trouble and now he wont play his role. Hes asking to get benched
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#208 » by johanliebert » Wed Dec 6, 2023 8:18 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:I’ve seen him create with the basketball. We’re not using our players correctly. Our better players need a free flowing offense to thrive. You can’t freeze IQ, DD, Hart or Grimes out. Randle and RJ tend to make ball movement impossible.

Nobody freezes IQ and hes super aggressive. Why arent you holding Brunson the pg accountable for bot involving others?
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#210 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:14 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:I’ve seen him create with the basketball. We’re not using our players correctly. Our better players need a free flowing offense to thrive. You can’t freeze IQ, DD, Hart or Grimes out. Randle and RJ tend to make ball movement impossible.

Nobody freezes IQ and hes super aggressive. Why arent you holding Brunson the pg accountable for bot involving others?


Brunson bears some responsibility though I think that it's more RJ and Randle. RJ gets tunnel vision and Randle considers himself as the alpha dog. I just think that we need to run some plays to get Grimes open and Grimes has to learn to be more aggressive. Just like how Josh Hart turned it around. I think that we need Grimes to get going for us to succeed against the better teams. This is particularly true since RJ's recent regressions.
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#211 » by Knicks Byke » Thu Dec 7, 2023 12:59 am

sounds like he should come off the bench and we should start DD.
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#212 » by Zenzibar » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:28 am

Knicks Byke wrote:sounds like he should come off the bench and we should start DD.


But if the slide continues still, even after the move the the 2nd unit?

Wouldn't we be weakening one of our strengths, which is the second unit?

Grimes needs to be agressive with his skills and make sht happen.
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#213 » by robillionaire » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:34 am

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Knicks Byke wrote:sounds like he should come off the bench and we should start DD.


But if the slide continues still, even after the move the the 2nd unit?

Wouldn't we be weakening one of our strengths, which is the second unit?

Grimes needs to be agressive with his skills and make sht happen.


The second unit hasn’t been all that much of a strength really. At this point I would bring him off the bench and start Donte until we figure something else out. Put him in there and see if he will play differently or look for his shot more. Maybe he can build back some confidence. Because it’s very clear he is struggling in the current role right now

I’m usually an advocate of letting people play through their struggles but I think we might be past that point since he is complaining to the media, something needs to change fast
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#214 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Dec 7, 2023 5:14 am

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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#215 » by duetta » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:25 pm

First, it was Hart, then Grimes - the guys who do the dirty work. Mitch is always chirping about the same thing.

The guys who actually defend should see the ball - and the guys who don't defend should see the bench. Brunson, at least, attempts to take charges.

Knicks are never winning anything meaningful by spoiling shoot-first, defend-later prima-donnas.
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#216 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:48 pm

duetta wrote:First, it was Hart, then Grimes - the guys who do the dirty work. Mitch is always chirping about the same thing.

The guys who actually defend should see the ball - and the guys who don't defend should see the bench. Brunson, at least, attempts to take charges.

Knicks are never winning anything meaningful by spoiling shoot-first, defend-later prima-donnas.


Thibs system is terrible. ISO/Read and react is as lazy as it gets. It doesn't necessarily create the best shots/scoring opportunities. Players strengths get ignored. There's very little off ball movement with any purpose. The ball stops too often while players are just standing around in the corner waiting for a pass that may never come or, comes too late in the shot clock forcing up a bad shot. If players aren't shooting lights out from 3 and they aren't in the hierarchy of 20 shots a game, they may struggle. Then Thibs comes with the hook and sits them. Meanwhile you have lazy ass Randle not playing any defense and never gets held accountable. It's worse this season because we have no backup worth a damn so, his leash is even longer than it was previously. We don't have the talent to play this way either. Thibs just keeps square pegging the round hole! :o

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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#217 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Dec 7, 2023 3:50 pm

The interesting thing is that the starting lineup has a +5 net rating which is not bad. Still, Thibs needs to run some plays for Grimes since he’s not an iso baller.
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#218 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Dec 7, 2023 4:03 pm

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We already knew this but the confirmation of this makes it hurt even more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#219 » by Iron Mantis » Thu Dec 7, 2023 10:33 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
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We already knew this but the confirmation of this makes it hurt even more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An offer of Grimes, Quickley, Obi, Fournier + picks would have gotten the deal done.
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Re: Grimes is truly overated and is not our best defender 

Post#220 » by Adelheid » Thu Dec 7, 2023 10:50 pm

what if they make Grimes the ball handler of the 2nd unit....could it work?

alongside RJ of course

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