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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#201 » by F N 11 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 7:39 am

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He had a hell of an audition though. 28 points on 11/13 from the field which included 3/3 from 3 lol.

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Saw a stat he was 3-14 against OG I don’t even remember him making a shot over OG.


You don't mean this game do you? Derozan only took 13 shots all night (unless there's a typo...didn't get to watch the game). Made 10 of them including 3-4 from 3 and 5 free throws made. Now he definitely deferred a lot more when OG was guarding him. But that's why Derozan's FG% is always been real good for a perimeter player. He knows when to shoot and not.

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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#202 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jan 4, 2024 7:39 am

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Adelheid wrote:true, bench turned to abso dog shat

need some reinforcements


Yep. I would have rather given up Grimes or firsts than Quick.
Our bench looks average minus.

Quick next to Brunson with DD on the bench.
I guess we’ll use a pick or two to bolster the bench. Deuce not that guy (for a while if ever. Sad to say.)

Then the deal wouldn't have gotten done. Toronto was looking for a PG. They have Gary Trent as their "Grimes".
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#203 » by ScienceOfLosing » Thu Jan 4, 2024 7:46 am

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Adelheid wrote:true, bench turned to abso dog shat

need some reinforcements


Yep. I would have rather given up Grimes or firsts than Quick.
Our bench looks average minus.

Quick next to Brunson with DD on the bench.
I guess we’ll use a pick or two to bolster the bench. Deuce not that guy (for a while if ever. Sad to say.)

Then the deal wouldn't have gotten done. Toronto was looking for a PG. They have Gary Trent as their "Grimes".


Bring in a 3rd team , maybe Utah gives Sexton. Our FO are trade gurus.
I love OG but we gave up 2 starters for a 3 & D guy, albeit a great one.
And EACH of the two guys we gave up will average more points than OG. That doesn’t sound fair.
And on top of that, our bench just became a net negative.
Starting to see why Thibs never started IQ.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#204 » by Adelheid » Thu Jan 4, 2024 7:56 am

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Yep. I would have rather given up Grimes or firsts than Quick.
Our bench looks average minus.

Quick next to Brunson with DD on the bench.
I guess we’ll use a pick or two to bolster the bench. Deuce not that guy (for a while if ever. Sad to say.)

Then the deal wouldn't have gotten done. Toronto was looking for a PG. They have Gary Trent as their "Grimes".


Bring in a 3rd team , maybe Utah gives Sexton. Our FO are trade gurus.
I love OG but we gave up 2 starters for a 3 & D guy, albeit a great one.
And EACH of the two guys we gave up will average more points than OG. That doesn’t sound fair.
And on top of that, our bench just became a net negative.
Starting to see why Thibs never started IQ.


OG can defend almost any position though. Cant say the same for the other 2 guys. In today's NBA, that IS a luxury any team would kill to have
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#205 » by ScienceOfLosing » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:14 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Then the deal wouldn't have gotten done. Toronto was looking for a PG. They have Gary Trent as their "Grimes".


Bring in a 3rd team , maybe Utah gives Sexton. Our FO are trade gurus.
I love OG but we gave up 2 starters for a 3 & D guy, albeit a great one.
And EACH of the two guys we gave up will average more points than OG. That doesn’t sound fair.
And on top of that, our bench just became a net negative.
Starting to see why Thibs never started IQ.


OG can defend almost any position though. Cant say the same for the other 2 guys. In today's NBA, that IS a luxury any team would kill to have


Agreed but we misused our resources.
We were starting RJ when he didn’t fit with Randle.
We were bringing Quick off the bench when he should have played the 2 starting.
DD should have been off the bench.

Love OG but not our use of assets that preceded getting him. Pray we get a great bench pg and more.
It is like passing on Duren (who would be starting for us right now) when we could have found another way.
Everything is riding on the next moves.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#206 » by Besart19 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:15 am

McBride, Fournier and a FRP for Sexton

Bogdanovic after they waive him! We have 7M extra to pay with Mitchs injury exception

Brunson / Sexton
Grimes / Di Vincenco
Anunony / Josh Hart
Randle / Bogdanovic
Hart / Achiuwa / Dwight
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#207 » by stuporman » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:15 am

Good audition for DeRozan as long as he isn't being guarded by OG, can he still play the 2? He is an expiring, though, too.

See if he fits for the rest of the season and if he flourishes with the Knicks then resign him to a more reasonable team friendly deal provided he wants to chase a title here in a role befitting his senior status.

As long as he doesn't cost too much to get either.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#208 » by stuporman » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:20 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:OG with a team high +35.

That’s right. +35.

Did I forget to mention that OG was +35 tonight?


He's a measly +54 in two games.... :o
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#209 » by NoStatsGuy » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:52 am

stuporman wrote:Good audition for DeRozan as long as he isn't being guarded by OG, can he still play the 2? He is an expiring, though, too.

See if he fits for the rest of the season and if he flourishes with the Knicks then resign him to a more reasonable team friendly deal provided he wants to chase a title here in a role befitting his senior status.

As long as he doesn't cost too much to get either.


I like that idea. It all depends on the deal tbf.

i wouldnt give up too much and besides fournier and maybe our worst tradable pick, i dont know if that would be enough to make the bulls move on that.

on the other hand Derozan takes a lot of midrange shots and could clog the lanes like RJ did. I like the space, that randle and JB have to work with now. I think i would maybe keep my eyes more open for a microwave scorer to help the 2nd unit.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#210 » by Adelheid » Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:22 am

ScienceOfLosing wrote:
Adelheid wrote:
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Bring in a 3rd team , maybe Utah gives Sexton. Our FO are trade gurus.
I love OG but we gave up 2 starters for a 3 & D guy, albeit a great one.
And EACH of the two guys we gave up will average more points than OG. That doesn’t sound fair.
And on top of that, our bench just became a net negative.
Starting to see why Thibs never started IQ.


OG can defend almost any position though. Cant say the same for the other 2 guys. In today's NBA, that IS a luxury any team would kill to have


Agreed but we misused our resources.
We were starting RJ when he didn’t fit with Randle.
We were bringing Quick off the bench when he should have played the 2 starting.
DD should have been off the bench.

Love OG but not our use of assets that preceded getting him. Pray we get a great bench pg and more.
It is like passing on Duren (who would be starting for us right now) when we could have found another way.
Everything is riding on the next moves.


There is truth to that ofc, RJ's offense doesnt jive with the 2 high paid starters but the FO paid him as well to be the third banana,
If they have Thibs put RJ to come off the bench, it could lower his trade value. They are hoping he gets the subliminal message; that being paid does not have a ppg equivalent of any sorts as long as he does what the other 2 starters could not do: defend the best players and be a great team defender. But in the end, he did not seem to get the message at all.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#211 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:29 am

Besart19 wrote:McBride, Fournier and a FRP for Sexton

Bogdanovic after they waive him! We have 7M extra to pay with Mitchs injury exception

Brunson / Sexton
Grimes / Di Vincenco
Anunony / Josh Hart
Randle / Bogdanovic
Hart / Achiuwa / Dwight
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#212 » by NYKinMIA » Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:04 am

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Post#213 » by cgf » Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:04 pm

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Step 4: Pump Mitch up with all the painkillers for the playoffs

Brunson | Caruso | McBride
Lavine | Grimes
Anunoby | Hart
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Hartenstein | Robinson | Sims/Taj

48 minutes of Anunoby or Caruso.
48 minutes of Brunson/Randle or Lavine.
48 minutes of Robinson or Hartenstein

That defense would dominate and we’d be able to score whether the Js were resting or not :dontknow:
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Post#214 » by GettinitDone » Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:05 pm

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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#215 » by Iron Mantis » Thu Jan 4, 2024 12:34 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Randle's remaining career will be judged on his playoff performances

If he doesn't break through when it counts, he'll barely be remembered after he retires

Play well when it counts and he can punch his ticket on his next contract

Fail in the playoffs and he's just another journeyman player the rest of the way

Randle's change in his style of play will definitely help boost his effectiveness in the playoffs.

No long 2's, just shots in the paint and attacking the basket. And 3's if he's hot.
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Post#218 » by Knicks Byke » Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:42 pm

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Post#219 » by duetta » Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:49 pm

Some impressive performances last night but also some concerns.

The interesting thing about the McBride situation is that the Knicks signed him to a new deal immediately after the trade of Quick. That tells me that they are seeing things in practice that he has yet to display this season in games. There was a quote from Thibs to that effect. But he is not confident out there on offense. They need to get him to be more commanding on the offensive end. He looks extremely tight.

With regards to the current difference between DDV and Grimes, DDV is much more active on the offensive end. He often runs these figure eights trying to get free, using the traffic on the court as a screen, whereas Grimes hangs out more in the corners. Grimes would be ideal on a team that ran screens for him. I sense that he is still shaken by the adversity he faced in the first third of the season, especially after how well he played last season. The coach should encourage him to spend time watching the way that DDV moves out there. I guess that DDV learned that while playing in Golden State.

The trade of RJ appears to have dramatically opened up our offense. The ball is just moving more in the first quarter now that there are not three ball-dominant players starting. A return to that toxic previous status quo will be a danger in any upgrade trade. We can't bring in another ball-dominant player.

Hartenstein had a great game versus an aging Drummond but I want to see how he does against Embiid before anointing him. I'd also love to see him step out and hit a three.
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Re: Knicks - Bulls PG 

Post#220 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Jan 4, 2024 1:53 pm

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:But seriously OG’s defense is elite and it’s contagious. You’ve even got Julius jumping passing lanes and getting steals. Combine that with Hartenstein flying all over the court we can really defend. We’ve got real issues with the bench though. I’m kinda afraid the 76ers are going to run us off the court. You can’t even really get 10 mins from the bench.


When Randle got that steal in the back court I was like "damn... Julius?! Way to go! :nod:"

Absolutely love what OG has brought to NY.


Definitely my favorite moment of the night seeing Randle get that steal.
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