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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1461 » by knicks94 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:51 pm

Would be nice to see that version of Bojan more often.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1462 » by Richard4444 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:57 pm

Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.


We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1463 » by Wildcat » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:38 pm

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Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.


We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.


I don't think so. Depending on the matchup, I think Thibs is extending to 10-man rotation (not sufficient adjustment). I can't imagine Precious collecting DNP's, for example, but if they're playing against a zone defense in the playoffs, Precious' minutes will probably go down in favor of Bojan.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1464 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:39 pm

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Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.


We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.


I think the trio of bog, burks, and precious will be matchup-dependent for a bench rotation spot. I imagine preference/advantage precious.

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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1465 » by cgf » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:57 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:Bojan - 8 games 24.8 MPG
14.1 PPG 3.1 RPG 1.4 APG 0.6 SPG
43.3% on 11.3 FGA
36.7% on 6.1 3PA
51.2% on 5.1 2PA
81.0% on 2.6 FTA
53.3% EFG 56.9% TS

Burks - 9 games 17.1 MPG
8.4 PPG 1.8 RPG 0.9 APG 0.1 SPG
31.7% on 9.1 FGA
32.5% on 4.4 3PA
31.0% on 4.7 2PA
68.8% on 1.8 FTA
39.6% EFG 42.7% TS

Lumping these two together to pretend the trade has been trash is dumb.


Bojan's numbers will only uptick as the team gets healthier. Burks? I've seen nothing that leads me to believe he will remain in the rotation when the roster is at full strength.


Not making the case for Burks, but if someone wanted to the argument would have to be about Burks being a decent defender while Bogey's a sieve + Burks having more room to bounce back offensively. Because despite Burks' struggles, our net-rating w/ & w/o Burks goes down by -15.5pts / 100 possession, while Bogey brings us down -20.35.

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Again not arguing for Burks to play over Bogey...especially if we get healthier, because a more specialized tool for Thibs to use like Bogey will probably be more useful than a more well-rounded minutes eater like Burks...at least unless Deuce, Donte, & Josh all just have a horrible series at the same time. Just trying to explore why Burks might.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1466 » by cgf » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:03 pm

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Wildcat wrote:Bojan plays better without Burks. Happy to see him have 2 straight decent games. I think our 10-man is going to be fluid between he and Burks.


We will stick with a 9 man rotation. When the team gets 100% healthy, Bojan will be out of rotation.


I think the trio of bog, burks, and precious will be matchup-dependent for a bench rotation spot. I imagine preference/advantage precious.

Hart, deuce, and Mitch should be fixtures.


This is my expectation as well if we get healthy. Assuming an 8.5 man rotation, I think 7 spots are essentially guaranteed...Juju, OG, RobinHart, & the Nova Knicks...with Deuce & Precious currently ahead of Burks, Bogey, Sims, Milton, etc. for those final 1.5 spots in a vaccuum.

But ultimately, I expect Thibs to go with what works in a specific matchup.

If it turns out that our two-way guys are shooting like butt so teams are clogging our offense up too much for our D to overcome, but Bogey & Burks are hot and holding their own defensively, then we could see the Detroit duo getting 25-30mpg in a series with Deuce and Precious not even playing; while DDV has his minutes cut.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1467 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:09 pm

Burks drags everyone on the team down. A huge net negative.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1468 » by Fat Kat » Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:26 pm

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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1470 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:33 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Burks drags everyone on the team down. A huge net negative.

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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1471 » by moocow007 » Mon Apr 1, 2024 12:28 pm

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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1472 » by ITGM » Mon Apr 1, 2024 8:47 pm

Should've traded for Dejounte Murray instead, Leon.

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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1473 » by Stannis » Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:12 pm

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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1474 » by Stannis » Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:14 pm

ITGM wrote:Should've traded for Dejounte Murray instead, Leon.


Asking price was probably too much. It wasn't our year to pull the trigger on a blockbuster deal.

Next year we still have BB as an expiring + all our 1st round picks.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1475 » by Stannis » Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:15 pm

He's barely getting 20 MPG with Randle injured... Give Hart a rest day and let BB cook.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1476 » by Iron Mantis » Mon Apr 1, 2024 9:23 pm

Burks and Bojan suck and are useless in competitive basketball.

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Post#1477 » by BigShot Bojan » Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:37 pm

Stannis wrote:Free BB!

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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1478 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Apr 4, 2024 11:27 am

If Bogs and Burks were house pets, they would be euthanized, probably in a 2 for 1 special down at the mall, at Euthanize Palace.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1479 » by cgf » Thu Apr 4, 2024 1:37 pm

Stannis wrote:He's barely getting 20 MPG with Randle injured... Give Hart a rest day and let BB cook.


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Hard to give BB minutes when we're trying to win games. This isn't a development team anymore.
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Re: Woj: Knicks trade for Alec Burks and Bojan Bogdanovich 

Post#1480 » by Stannis » Fri Apr 5, 2024 12:21 am

In all seriousness, Pistons had like 6 wins at the time of the trade and dead last. There's no way anybody on that team was valuable.
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