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OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#201 » by Ghetto Gospel » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:53 pm

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#202 » by Ghetto Gospel » Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:59 pm

fk it double up on wr? ad mitchell?
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#204 » by Luv those Knicks » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:17 am

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#205 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:22 am

we needed someone in the back end, i'll take it
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#206 » by F N 11 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:24 am

Top safety in draft Joe is cooking. We did the same when we drafted McKinney. Graded 89.2 on PFF and an absolute ball hawk.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#207 » by Rich Rane » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:24 am

Probably best safety in the draft. Good pick.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#208 » by mpharris36 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:29 am

Ghetto Gospel wrote:fk it double up on wr? ad mitchell?


I heard he's off a lot of teams boards...major character concerns
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#209 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:32 am

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Ghetto Gospel wrote:fk it double up on wr? ad mitchell?


I heard he's off a lot of teams boards...major character concerns


i see, makes sense considering his freefall

how bad is it? i wouldn't mind taking a chance if he's still available in the 3rd
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#210 » by TerrenceClarke » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:35 am

Dude tested worst than McKinney by a lot .


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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#211 » by mpharris36 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:37 am

Ghetto Gospel wrote:
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Ghetto Gospel wrote:fk it double up on wr? ad mitchell?


I heard he's off a lot of teams boards...major character concerns


i see, makes sense considering his freefall

how bad is it? i wouldn't mind taking a chance if he's still available in the 3rd


some scouts say he obviously has talent...but they question how coachable....I guess he basically does **** his way.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#212 » by mpharris36 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 am

TerrenceClarke wrote:Dude tested worst than McKinney by a lot .


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13 INT in his college career...big instinctual safety. We are moving to more of a zone defense with the new DC....I think you need elite athletic traits at corner....but safety smarts and instincts I take over athleticism.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#213 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:41 am

TerrenceClarke wrote:Dude tested worst than McKinney by a lot .


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yeah first thing i looked for was his combine numbers, they disgusting
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#214 » by TerrenceClarke » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:43 am

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TerrenceClarke wrote:Dude tested worst than McKinney by a lot .


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13 INT in his college career...big instinctual safety. We are moving to more of a zone defense with the new DC....I think you need elite athletic traits at corner....but safety smarts and instincts I take over athleticism.


Instincts are not going to much if you physically aren’t up to par. He doesn’t look like he can hang with NFL speed on offense.

Unatheltic instinctual safety is meh. This was damn sure not not BPA
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#215 » by mpharris36 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:45 am

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TerrenceClarke wrote:Dude tested worst than McKinney by a lot .


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13 INT in his college career...big instinctual safety. We are moving to more of a zone defense with the new DC....I think you need elite athletic traits at corner....but safety smarts and instincts I take over athleticism.


Instincts are not going to much if you physically aren’t up to par. He doesn’t look like he can can with NFL speed on offense.

Unatheltic instinctual safety is meh. This was damn sure not not BPA


he was considered a late 1st early 2nd round pick. Most had him as the top safety in the class.

I watch some of his clips...he sure seems to play faster than his combine #"s.

I agree the combine and athletic scores matter but if there is a position you can get by with not elite testing scores I think its safety because you are rarely matched up 1 on 1...you are reading QB's playing areas.

I think he's a day 1 starter at FS.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#216 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:46 am

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TerrenceClarke wrote:Dude tested worst than McKinney by a lot .


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13 INT in his college career...big instinctual safety. We are moving to more of a zone defense with the new DC....I think you need elite athletic traits at corner....but safety smarts and instincts I take over athleticism.


i think it limits his ceiling though. hard to be an elite S in todays nfl if you aren't a good athlete.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#217 » by mpharris36 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 am

Ghetto Gospel wrote:
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TerrenceClarke wrote:Dude tested worst than McKinney by a lot .


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13 INT in his college career...big instinctual safety. We are moving to more of a zone defense with the new DC....I think you need elite athletic traits at corner....but safety smarts and instincts I take over athleticism.


i think it limits his ceiling though. hard to be an elite S in todays nfl if you aren't a good athlete.


not sure I agree with that...as a corner absolutely need that speed and athleticism (quick twitch) testing matters way more.

If I remember correctly Kenny Phillips ran a 4.5ish he wasn't a burner but he was a big safety that knew how to play the position. Another guy that comes to mind who wasn't an elite athlete but was super instinctual would be antrelle rolle.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#218 » by Luv those Knicks » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 am

Got a broken leg on the play, had to crawl off the field because his team was out of timeouts.

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#219 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:50 am

I think the athletic mock predicted our first 2 picks. If we go running back in the third it nailed the first 2 days. That’s Def doesn’t happen a lot with football mock drafts
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Offseason Thread - Draft Day is upon us 

Post#220 » by TerrenceClarke » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:50 am

McKinney blows him away as a prospect and McKinney wasn’t even all that. Nasty work.

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