What does everyone see in Bayless that i don't?

EchelonNYK · Post #1 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:56 am

Please explain, because i'm baffled.

randomhero423 · Post #2 » by **randomhero423** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:57 am

beats me. i do think he'll be good with roy though

Smoke24 · Post #3 » by **Smoke24** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:59 am

He's a guard from Arizona and they've carved a nice nitche in the nba.

EchelonNYK · Post #4 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:00 am

Smoke24 wrote:He's a guard from Arizona and they've carved a nice nitche in the nba.

You better come better than that, cuzz.

haterade · Post #5 » by **haterade** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:01 am

echelonNYK wrote:Please explain, because i'm baffled.

I feel the same about Bayless as you. But I do agree he will do good with Roy.

sonic-ben · Post #6 » by **sonic-ben** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:07 am

Westbrook and Weaver shut him down when Guarding Him...

Not a sharer of the Ball....
Does not play defense ...

Smoke24 · Post #7 » by **Smoke24** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:07 am

echelonNYK wrote:
Smoke24 wrote:He's a guard from Arizona and they've carved a nice nitche in the nba.

You better come better than that, cuzz.

Uhm......Sorry, but I don't want to say nothing negative about the guy. Any positives and/or peoples opinions have already been beat to death, revived and shot killed and mammed already on this board.

Post #8 » by **GONYK** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:10 am

Smoke24 wrote:He's a guard from Arizona and they've carved a nice nitche in the nba.

List of Arizona players in the NBA
Adams, Hassan 2006-2007
Arenas, Gilbert 2001-2007
Bibby, Mike 1998-2007
Bramlett, A.j. 1999-1999
Buechler, Jud 1990-2001
Bynum, Will 2005-2005
Cook, Anthony 1990-1995
Davis, Ben 1996-1999
Dele, Bison 1991-1998
Demic, Larry 1979-1981
Dickerson, Michael 1998-2002
Elliott, Bob 1978-1980
Elliott, Sean 1989-2000
Fleming, Al 1977-1977
Frye, Channing 2005-2007
Geary, Reggie 1996-1997
Iguodala, Andre 2004-2007
Jefferson, Richard 2001-2007
Kerr, Steve 1988-2002
Mills, Chris 1993-2002
Money, Eric 1974-1979
Norman, Connie 1974-1978
Othick, Matt 1992-1992
Owes, Ray 1996-1996
Reeves, Khalid 1994-1999
Rooks, Sean 1992-2003
Simon, Miles 1998-1998
Stokes, Ed 1997-1997
Stoudamire, Damon 1995-2007
Stoudamire, Salim 2005-2007
Terry, Jason 1999-2007
Tolbert, Tom 1988-1994
Walton, Luke 2003-2007
Williams, Marcus 2007-2007
Williams, Pete 1985-1986
Wood, Leon 1984-1990
Woods, Loren 2001-2007

There are maybe 3-4 good guards on that list. What is this niche that is supposed to make me cry?

EchelonNYK · Post #9 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:10 am

i'm still waiting.

Smoke24 · Post #10 » by **Smoke24** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:12 am

GONYK wrote:
Smoke24 wrote:He's a guard from Arizona and they've carved a nice nitche in the nba.

List of Arizona players in the NBA
Adams, Hassan 2006-2007
Arenas, Gilbert 2001-2007
Bibby, Mike 1998-2007
Bramlett, A.j. 1999-1999
Buechler, Jud 1990-2001
Bynum, Will 2005-2005
Cook, Anthony 1990-1995
Davis, Ben 1996-1999
Dele, Bison 1991-1998
Demic, Larry 1979-1981
Dickerson, Michael 1998-2002
Elliott, Bob 1978-1980
Elliott, Sean 1989-2000
Fleming, Al 1977-1977
Frye, Channing 2005-2007
Geary, Reggie 1996-1997
Iguodala, Andre 2004-2007
Jefferson, Richard 2001-2007
Kerr, Steve 1988-2002
Mills, Chris 1993-2002
Money, Eric 1974-1979
Norman, Connie 1974-1978
Othick, Matt 1992-1992
Owes, Ray 1996-1996
Reeves, Khalid 1994-1999
Rooks, Sean 1992-2003
Simon, Miles 1998-1998
Stokes, Ed 1997-1997
Stoudamire, Damon 1995-2007
Stoudamire, Salim 2005-2007
Terry, Jason 1999-2007
Tolbert, Tom 1988-1994
Walton, Luke 2003-2007
Williams, Marcus 2007-2007
Williams, Pete 1985-1986
Wood, Leon 1984-1990
Woods, Loren 2001-2007

There are maybe 3-4 good guards on that list. What is this niche that is supposed to make me cry?

The sarcasm font would have done wonders. At least my comment was funny to me. :-?

BLACKFEET · Post #11 » by **BLACKFEET** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:31 am

hes a gonna be a great scorer in the league and playing with b roy in the backcourt with him wont hurt
his jumpshot is water and hes fast with the ball
but hes not a distributor
he seems really cocky and not in a good way
we need a leader and a guy other guys will want to play with
bayless has yet to show me he can do either

randomhero423 · Post #12 » by **randomhero423** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:32 am

he seemed like a **** last night. i dunno why.

i also don't understand why he seemed pissed to be traded. POR can be a dynasty in 4 years...

Starbury316 · Post #13 » by **Starbury316** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:46 am

i think he was pissed cuz of the riley smoke screen and he thought we were takin him.. then he slipped BIG time.. he will be a good player though..not the pg we necessarily need rite now though.. had we got the 5th pick i wouldnt mind takin him and gallonari

the bizness · Post #14 » by **the bizness** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:42 am

well I feel like this is beating a dead horse and would rather move on, but I suppose this is a good point because some people might wonder why others might consider him a good prospect. he was a better athlete than the supposed athlete westbrook (check their vert and speed times) and was also a better passer as well (at worse you could call it a wash). he was also a much better shooter (40.7% from 3 compared to 33.8%) and scorer (19.7 ppg compared to 12.2 ppg). westbrook's advantage is defense but there's a reason why defensive specialists still get taken in the second round. does anyone care about jeffries or mardy collins? it'd be one thing if they were two-way players (I do appreciate defense) but westbrook was a low scorer with a mediocre shooting percentage.

as far as in comparison to gordon, really the only main reason why I liked bayless more was because I thought bayless had a better shot at being an NBA pg than gordon, who I believe is strictly a sg.

it's not even that I really thought bayless was hot sh*t or anything. I liked mayo better for example. it's just that talent-wise, at the time we were drafting, I thought bayless was the BPA. I did have danilo next though (even ahead of gordon and westbrook).

as far as the being from arizona, I don't think it means that much, especially considering that lute olson left. however it is nicknamed "Point Guard U" and the fact that olson recruited bayless probably means that he saw something in him. and he had a track record of having a good eye for guard talent.

I think there's a backlash against scoring pgs and maybe that's why he fell but people seem to forget that chris paul scores 24 ppg and steve nash consistently scores over 20. there's nothing wrong with a pg prospect that scores 20 ppg on 46% shooting, 40.7% from 3 from a top school in this year's toughest conference that's known for producing NBA guards.

but now, who cares? he's a blazer so who gives a f*ck about him.