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Re: WIRETAP: PLEASE PLEASE 

Post#41 » by putiger78 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:31 pm

klemen4 wrote:Take Thomas, Take Moore..anything that saves them money, but dont include Nate!!!

2 possible trades:

1) Miller, Moore FOR Rose Jeffries

Saves sacramento 4,5 mio.

2) Miller, Moore, Thomas FOR Rose Jeffries, Thomas, Roberson


Sacramento saves 8,2 mio and adds Tim Thomas who actually can play and hit some 3pt opposed to Kenny Thomas who is useless.

This second trade is excellent for Sacramento.


Sac wouldn't do the second trade because they would take the only contract (Jefferies) requiring payments in 2010-11.
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Re: WIRETAP: PLEASE PLEASE 

Post#42 » by klemen4 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:31 pm

DUHON/NATE
CHANDLER/Nate
GALINARI/RICHARDSON
LEE/HARRINGTON/MOORE
MILLER/Lee
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Post#43 » by stuporman » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:31 pm

Does anyone else find it funny that someone who plays in the NBA and is making over $10mil this year is being called hot garbage by a nobody on the internet?
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Post#44 » by GuyverADL » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:33 pm

stuporman wrote:Does anyone else find it funny that someone who plays in the NBA and is making over $10mil this year is being called hot garbage by a nobody on the internet?


Jerome James makes 6 million and hasnt played in 2 yrs. So whats your point?
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Post#45 » by klemen4 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:34 pm

Sac wouldn't do the second trade because they would take the only contract (Jefferies) requiring payments in 2010-11.


The would be stupid not to take that.

I think is NY takes Kenny Thomas they will take Jeffries!!!
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Post#46 » by mjhp911 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:35 pm

stuporman wrote:Does anyone else find it funny that someone who plays in the NBA and is making over $10mil this year is being called hot garbage by a nobody on the internet?


Dang, you made Eddy Curry's day, Stupe. :wink:
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Post#47 » by TheBluest » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:40 pm

TKF wrote:
optimusADL wrote:You do realize Brad Miller is hot garbage soaked in sewage right.


dipped in wet cow dung, sprinkled over 5 day old road kill......



We'll lose out because the Bulls are offering Gooden and Noc because we don't want to include Nate.
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Re: WIRETAP: PLEASE PLEASE 

Post#48 » by knicks742 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:42 pm

TheBluest wrote:
TKF wrote:
optimusADL wrote:You do realize Brad Miller is hot garbage soaked in sewage right.


dipped in wet cow dung, sprinkled over 5 day old road kill......



We'll lose out because the Bulls are offering Gooden and Noc because we don't want to include Nate.


Exactly, if anyone read the blog, a deal with the Bulls appears to be very, very close. Offer Nate, ask for the Rockets pick in the 20s and call it a day. Ugh.
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Post#49 » by Da_Mane_Man » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:44 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


miller is SUPER NICE!!!! and on top of that we get to get rid of Effries??????????? oh maaaaaaaaaaaaan! donnie is a GENIUS!!!!!
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Post#50 » by Big Chan » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:46 pm

NO!

Marbury
Jeffries
Roberson

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Miller
Thomas
Moore
Salmons
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Post#51 » by Da_Mane_Man » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:47 pm

DO NOT include nate in this bullsh.t deal though
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Post#52 » by klemen4 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:47 pm

Miller, Thomas for Rose, Jeffries, Thomas

Give them Timi, he can play opposed to Kenny Thomas :)
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Post#53 » by Jitpal » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:48 pm

What if it was a 3 way deal. Portland, NY and Sacramento. Kinda far fetched but whatever.

Sergio Rodriguez, Rudy Fernandez, Kenny Thomas and Brad Miller to the Knicks

Anthony Roberson, David Lee and Eddy Curry to the Blazers

Malik Rose and Raef LaFrentz to the Kings

The Kings get their cap relief this summer instead of next summer and they get rid of 2 of their 3 biggest contracts. Knicks get better today with Rodriguez and Fernandez. Brad Miller takes Lee's spot and Kenny Thomas basically replaces what Malik did. The Blazers get David Lee, like they want.

I think it works. -Jitpal
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Post#54 » by BBALLER4FR » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:51 pm

knicks742 wrote:
TheBluest wrote:

We'll lose out because the Bulls are offering Gooden and Noc because we don't want to include Nate.


Exactly, if anyone read the blog, a deal with the Bulls appears to be very, very close. Offer Nate, ask for the Rockets pick in the 20s and call it a day. Ugh.


If Isiah were drafting I'd say sure but Walsh will be selecting. Adding Nate (who I believe was selected 21st overall) who plays MUCH better than where he was drafted for the 20th in the 2009 draft where Walsh will be selecting is a downgrade. I don't get you guys. We have capspace - WTF is it with throwing away talent in hopes of a $6 million payroll in 2010?? We're not New Orleans!!! This is getting ridiculous!
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Post#55 » by Da_Mane_Man » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:51 pm

the blazers give up a heck of a lot. they give up two good young players who they're high on, they give up a huge expiring and they take eddy's fat ass just to get david lee? i don't think so
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Post#56 » by stuporman » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:51 pm

mjhp911 wrote:
stuporman wrote:Does anyone else find it funny that someone who plays in the NBA and is making over $10mil this year is being called hot garbage by a nobody on the internet?


Dang, you made Eddy Curry's day, Stupe. :wink:


Well, I said 'plays' in the NBA......I'm not sure Curry counts...lol
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Post#57 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:51 pm

putiger78 wrote:I think Jefferies and Rose for Miller is in our favor, and Nate and Jefferies and Rose and Miller is in their favor. I would like to come up with a middle ground, but I am not sure there is one.


Agreed.

Without Nate, the deal isn't worth it for them, because JJ's contract runs a year longer than Miller's. They would save on the $12.3 million owed to Miller next year, but then have to pay JJ a total of $13.3 million for next season and the season after that.

If we throw in Nate, we are trading a young player at his peak value and an expiring contract just to get Jeffries off the books for 2010. It's not worth it, especially considering how weak we are in the backcourt right now -- Duhon would be left as our only reliable guard.

The only deal that might make sense would be Nate, Malik, and Jeffires for Miller and Salmons, but I'm not a huge fan of this either. Salmons has a contract that runs the same length as Jeffries, and his production wouldn't be any better than Nate's. So we're basically using an expiring deal to take on an extra year of salary in Miller. I'd rather just trade Malik for Miller straight-up then, and even then I'd want a pick out of it or something.
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Post#58 » by Da_Mane_Man » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:52 pm

BBALLER4FR wrote:If Isiah were drafting I'd say sure but Walsh will be selecting. Adding Nate (who I believe was selected 21st overall) who plays MUCH better than where he was drafted for the 20th in the 2009 draft where Walsh will be selecting is a downgrade. I don't get you guys. We have capspace - WTF is it with throwing away talent in hopes of a $6 million payroll in 2010?? We're not New Orleans!!! This is getting ridiculous!


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Post#59 » by tomgugliottamvp » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:54 pm

BBALLER4FR wrote:
knicks742 wrote:
TheBluest wrote:

We'll lose out because the Bulls are offering Gooden and Noc because we don't want to include Nate.


Exactly, if anyone read the blog, a deal with the Bulls appears to be very, very close. Offer Nate, ask for the Rockets pick in the 20s and call it a day. Ugh.


If Isiah were drafting I'd say sure but Walsh will be selecting. Adding Nate (who I believe was selected 21st overall) who plays MUCH better than where he was drafted for the 20th in the 2009 draft where Walsh will be selecting is a downgrade. I don't get you guys. We have capspace - WTF is it with throwing away talent in hopes of a $6 million payroll in 2010?? We're not New Orleans!!! This is getting ridiculous!


We don't have as much as you think we do. Decreasing cap, Curry, Jeffries, Gallinari, Chandler and you add in Lee and Nate potentially and you have very little room to maneuver. You need to clear some more room.
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Post#60 » by mjhp911 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:54 pm

Back to the package the Kings fan suggested a few days ago then... Miller for Malik and Breastesses...

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