OT: Bargnani Dissapoints, Italian Team Falls Minus Gallo

[cgf]

Bargnani >>>>> Gallinari.

and do the knicks still have an NBA team? they should relocate their franchise....seriously. the amount of losing suffered by the citizens of NY int he past decade is one of the greatest tragedies in the professional sports world.. Ever.

Miserable troll is miserable.

As for Bargs v Gallo we'll see at the end of the season, gallo's got the better skillset and bball iq.

[Knicksick]

It won't take more than a couple of months and Raptor fans will be complaining about the 50mill. contract that Bargnani just signed. Dude is an overpaid,soft loser. I can't believe there is a player taller than Curry that gets significantly less rebounds. That alone is an achievement that should bring him hall of shame honors.

[mrpoetryNmotion]

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH a third year player who was the first pick in the draft is better than a rookie who barely played his first year. That's so insightful, such a brilliant observation.

What is a bit more illuminating is that the Knicks second year player, late first round pick produced almost exactly the same being a fourth option on a team saddled with chuckers and ball hogs as Barg did with him being the second option on his team and his 'breakout season'. LOL!

This pretty much sums it all up.

[cgf]

It won't take more than a couple of months and Raptor fans will be complaining about the 50mill. contract that Bargnani just signed. Dude is an overpaid,soft loser. I can't believe there is a player taller than Curry that gets significantly less rebounds. That alone is an achievement that should bring him hall of shame honors.

Bargs isn't soft, sure offensively he's better working from the perimeter in, but that's just his skillset, that's not his mindset. As for his rebounding he actually tips a lot of balls to his team mates and boxes out very well so while he doesn't get better rebounding numbers than curry he helps his team a lot more on the boards. This is another example of how deceiving stats can be.

[Knicksick]

It won't take more than a couple of months and Raptor fans will be complaining about the 50mill. contract that Bargnani just signed. Dude is an overpaid,soft loser. I can't believe there is a player taller than Curry that gets significantly less rebounds. That alone is an achievement that should bring him hall of shame honors.

Bargs isn't soft, sure offensively he's better working from the perimeter in, but that's just his skillset, that's not his mindset. As for his rebounding he actually tips a lot of balls to his team mates and boxes out very well so while he doesn't get better rebounding numbers than curry he helps his team a lot more on the boards. This is another example of how deceiving stats can be.

LOL...wow talk about making excuses for a 7 footer that gets just 5 rebounds. But sure , he tips a lot of balls to his teammates lol

[cgf]

It won't take more than a couple of months and Raptor fans will be complaining about the 50mill. contract that Bargnani just signed. Dude is an overpaid,soft loser. I can't believe there is a player taller than Curry that gets significantly less rebounds. That alone is an achievement that should bring him hall of shame honors.

Bargs isn't soft, sure offensively he's better working from the perimeter in, but that's just his skillset, that's not his mindset. As for his rebounding he actually tips a lot of balls to his team mates and boxes out very well so while he doesn't get better rebounding numbers than curry he helps his team a lot more on the boards. This is another example of how deceiving stats can be.

LOL...wow talk about making excuses for a 7 footer that gets just 5 rebounds. But sure , he tips a lot of balls to his teammates lol

It's not an excuse, it's an explanation of why it isn't a big deal. It's one thing to not get rebound and let your team get crushed on the boards, it's another thing when you aren't coming down with boards but you're helping your team still do well on the boards, that's what bargs was doing and that couldn't be shown by his stats and is just another reason why stats aren't all that useful at showing what kind of player someone is.

[TaxI]

bargs is 24he's been in the league how long?so how the **** is his upside better? gallinari showed glimpses of brilliance in a brief period of playing time.gallo looks like a special player.mufukas need to put down the cool aid.

[cgf]

bargs is 24he's been in the league how long?so how the **** is his upside better? gallinari showed glimpses of brilliance in a brief period of playing time.gallo looks like a special player.mufukas need to put down the cool aid.

Well Bargnani is bigger and more explosive, so while gallo is far more skilled if bargs could reach gallo's skill level he'd be a better player due to those superior physical tools. That said i agree with your general gist that bargs is probably closer to his peak than gallo.

[Dam]

Against NY 4 4 38.3 .446 .444 .778 1.0 6.5 7.5 2.8 1.0 3.2 21.8 (bust-nani..mr.magoo....etc etc..)

[adjacent2bench]

Against NY 4 4 38.3 .446 .444 .778 1.0 6.5 7.5 2.8 1.0 3.2 21.8 (bust-nani..mr.magoo....etc etc..)

You gotta organize that.

[NyKnicks1714]

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21.8 points
7.5 rebounds
2.8 assists
.446 fg%
.444 3pt%

[Knicksick]

[quote="cgf"]
It's not an excuse, it's an explanation of why it isn't a big deal. It's one thing to not get rebound and let your team get crushed on the boards, it's another thing when you aren't coming down with boards but you're helping your team still do well on the boards, that's what bargs was doing and that couldn't be shown by his stats and is just another reason why stats aren't all that useful at showing what kind of player someone is.[quote="cgf"]

If it's not a big deal how come Toronto ranks at 21st position in rebounding last season despite having Bosh (6th best in rebounding) and Marion (14th in rebounding?)
The only other team having two guys in the top 15 individual rebounders was Houston with Ming and Scola and guess what?They were 4th overall in rebounding.
your argument makes no sense whatsoever--bottom line is that Bargnani as a "mobile,athletic,7 footer "who according to some fans is 7'2 now gets only 5 rebounds a game--if that ain't a shame and soft I don't know what is.

[Knicksick]

There should be NO WAY that if Bargnani was doing as solid job as you are trying to make us believe that Toronto should be ranked at 21st place in rebounding. If he was helping "his team do well on the boards" which he clearly isn't than how come Toronto is among the weakest rebounding teams despite having two strong rebounders surrounding him in the frontcourt?Your argument makes no sense.Toronto is close to minus 2 on the boards---in other words they suck at rebounding.

[Kakapato]

It won't take more than a couple of months and Raptor fans will be complaining about the 50mill. contract that Bargnani just signed. Dude is an overpaid,soft loser. I can't believe there is a player taller than Curry that gets significantly less rebounds. That alone is an achievement that should bring him hall of shame honors.

Bargs isn't soft, sure offensively he's better working from the perimeter in, but that's just his skillset, that's not his mindset. As for his rebounding he actually tips a lot of balls to his team mates and boxes out very well so while he doesn't get better rebounding numbers than curry he helps his team a lot more on the boards. This is another example of how deceiving stats can be.

Finally somebody who really knows about BB.

I've not posted in RealGM since a pair of weeks, disgusted by the insane adoration that many guys here have for stats and stupid formulas as PER.

Kudos my friend.

PS: I'm a Raptors' fan but I like Gallo more than Andrea.

[Kakapato]

There should be NO WAY that if Bargnani was doing as solid job as you are trying to make us believe that Toronto should be ranked at 21st place in rebounding. If he was helping "his team do well on the boards" which he clearly isn't than how come Toronto is among the weakest rebounding teams despite having two strong rebounders surrounding him in the frontcourt?Your argument makes no sense.Toronto is close to minus 2 on the boards---in other words they suck at rebounding.

Just for you to know, With the GREAT JO Toronto was a worse team if you look at rebounding.. during a game against NJ I've seen the Nets taking 7 offensive rebound in a row... the big men on court were Bosh and O'Neil.

Then Bargs was on the bench the team really suffered in rebounds more than you think.

But I know I'm wasting my breath...