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Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition)

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Re: Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition) 

Post#21 » by J the Drafter » Fri May 11, 2012 5:27 am

Hopefully Ryan works on his ball-handling and mid-range game if he spends more seasons with us. Right now he gets a lot of his points picking-and-popping or rotating to the weak-side.
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Re: Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition) 

Post#22 » by christian72589 » Fri May 11, 2012 5:31 am

I'm pretty sure that NoLimit sits at home all day thinking of new ways to make the same point he's been trying to make since the beginning of the season. It's getting really old.

I noticed, however, that while Ryno was carrying this sorry ass team through the season, you were nowhere to be found.

Ryan Anderson is what, 23 years old? You mock him because he's a great shooter and can actually rebound the ball... So he didn't become a franchise player in the span of ONE (His first) playoff series in which he was a starter.

I don't know what it is about Ryan Anderson that bothers you so much, but it's pathetic. Get off his back.

I've never seen so many threads about this guy, many of which refer to the fact that he is white or whatever, followed by NoLimit and a few others going off about how much they think he sucks. It's really annoying. You'd think that a guy on his rookie friggin contract would get a pass at 23 in his first real playoff experience when he was a great role player all season... no, "he's white and he sucks, PAT GARRITY LOL"

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Post#23 » by Nolimit1211 » Fri May 11, 2012 5:35 am

^^ Lets keep race out of this.... Numbers were the only things posted.

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Post#24 » by The Real Dalic » Fri May 11, 2012 5:35 am

Somebody's pissed. . . Sorry we have opinions you don't agree with. . . :roll:
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Re: Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition) 

Post#25 » by ChildishGambino » Fri May 11, 2012 5:41 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Gortat actually had a respectable back to the basket game, was a great rebounder, was a great defender during the beginning of his career. Ryan only has 3's and rebounding going for him. Not a great comparison IMO.

i'm not comparing the players just the situation....traded away before showing what he can really do....Ryan is just not good enough at this point plain and simple....he just needs to get better....To me Ryan isn't just all 3's and rebounding he has a lot of heart and he plays very hard...i hardly see him take a play off...he tries his best and really what more can you ask? problem is he just isn't good enough yet....on the bright side he's still young and can improve as long as he wants to
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Post#26 » by OrlChamps2030 » Fri May 11, 2012 5:43 am

christian72589 wrote:I'm pretty sure that NoLimit sits at home all day thinking of new ways to make the same point he's been trying to make since the beginning of the season. It's getting really old.

I noticed, however, that while Ryno was carrying this sorry ass team through the season, you were nowhere to be found.

Ryan Anderson is what, 23 years old? You mock him because he's a great shooter and can actually rebound the ball... So he didn't become a franchise player in the span of ONE (His first) playoff series in which he was a starter.

I don't know what it is about Ryan Anderson that bothers you so much, but it's pathetic. Get off his back.

I've never seen so many threads about this guy, many of which refer to the fact that he is white or whatever, followed by NoLimit and a few others going off about how much they think he sucks. It's really annoying. You'd think that a guy on his rookie friggin contract would get a pass at 23 in his first real playoff experience when he was a great role player all season... no, "he's white and he sucks, PAT GARRITY LOL"

just shut up


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Re: Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition) 

Post#27 » by The Real Dalic » Fri May 11, 2012 5:48 am

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The Real Dalic wrote:Gortat actually had a respectable back to the basket game, was a great rebounder, was a great defender during the beginning of his career. Ryan only has 3's and rebounding going for him. Not a great comparison IMO.

i'm not comparing the players just the situation....traded away before showing what he can really do....Ryan is just not good enough at this point plain and simple....he just needs to get better....To me Ryan isn't just all 3's and rebounding he has a lot of heart and he plays very hard...i hardly see him take a play off...he tries his best and really what more can you ask? problem is he just isn't good enough yet....on the bright side he's still young and can improve as long as he wants to

Yeah, my bad, I shouldn't have said "comparison". What I meant was there was a greater chance of Gortat shining than Anderson if he left. Only because Gortat had more moves and things he could do than Ryan can right now. I hope Ryan can improve, because unfortunately, I see him coming back on a bad deal.
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Post#28 » by Reverse_Angle » Fri May 11, 2012 6:12 am

ryan is already expanding his christian fan base on parallel with his recent interviews. ryan is smart. i am not just talking about this forum.

players are not role models. if your kid is interested in basketball, it is almost always about the game, not the life style. give them some credit, it is your mind that needs fixing.

in any case, i rather my kid idolize denis rodman than ryan anderson. :lol:
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Re: Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition) 

Post#29 » by Def Swami » Fri May 11, 2012 6:23 am

I've always been a fan of the real power forwards in the league. The ones that body guys at the rim, finish at the basket, got a mid-range game, and crash the boards. I like the enforcers of the paint. A body guard for the center. Which is why I think Ryan should start next season.










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Post#30 » by arkknight1988 » Fri May 11, 2012 6:36 am

if we didn't already have turk making 13 million then i would more than happy offering ryan a large deal. he played great this year but we are already paying davis who outproduced him in the playoffs.
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Post#31 » by WeAreVenom » Fri May 11, 2012 7:50 am

christian72589 wrote:I'm pretty sure that NoLimit sits at home all day thinking of new ways to make the same point he's been trying to make since the beginning of the season. It's getting really old.

I noticed, however, that while Ryno was carrying this sorry ass team through the season, you were nowhere to be found.

Ryan Anderson is what, 23 years old? You mock him because he's a great shooter and can actually rebound the ball... So he didn't become a franchise player in the span of ONE (His first) playoff series in which he was a starter.

I don't know what it is about Ryan Anderson that bothers you so much, but it's pathetic. Get off his back.

I've never seen so many threads about this guy, many of which refer to the fact that he is white or whatever, followed by NoLimit and a few others going off about how much they think he sucks. It's really annoying. You'd think that a guy on his rookie friggin contract would get a pass at 23 in his first real playoff experience when he was a great role player all season... no, "he's white and he sucks, PAT GARRITY LOL"

just shut up


It has nothing to do with his race, JJ is probably the only universally-loved player on the team, and he is white.

But Ryan does tend to disappear against tough defenses, and in the PO's. This definitely isn't the first time.

I'm down for keeping him, but I just don't want to overpay him.
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Re: Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition) 

Post#32 » by Mr13A » Fri May 11, 2012 8:24 am

I support the "I'm tired of the slow, non-athletic, horrible defender spot up shooters" club, but it seems like some people are making it out to be ALL Ryan. Ryan is an excellent player and our offense becomes a lot better simply because he's out there stretching the floor, giving space for guys to penetrate.
You say that "he easily gets shut down when defenders stay on him", well that means there's one less big man help defender and it opens things up for us quite nicely.
Also bringing Glen into the starting line up will ruin any offense we had. Offense always sucked with Glen and Dwight on the floor and it was only when Dwight was out, that Glen found any rhythm with a lot of space to roll to the rim and work inside. That won't be available with Dwight on the floor and will make Glen a pretty bad offensive player.

I really like the Dwight-Ryan-Glen rotation as we have a choice between a heavy defensive or offensive frontline. It allows us to adjust to other teams and there's no reason to let Ryan go for another power forward who doesn't bring any offense to the table.

Ryan is not the problem.
If you want to make changes, start at the shooting guard and shooting forward positions.
It's the guy who gives his man a path to the rim and won't contribute in any way unless he's **** hot from the 3pt line.
Or how about FBI's most wanted masked murderer. The guy cannot have a decent game against a good defender.
Or how about the point guard that just can't find the best center in the league under the rim.
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Re: Pat Garrity Vs Ryan Anderson (Playoff Edition) 

Post#33 » by ADRajX » Fri May 11, 2012 8:33 am

Ryan needs to work on other aspects of his offense... such as a consistent back-to-the-basket game, mid-range game, or a quick off the dribble move... add more moves... he can't always rely on open 3s or making 25% of his offensive put-backs.

Now I don't think he's worth a big contract this offseason... but he'll be overpaid by someone imo... I just hope the Magic don't match, but they probably will.

I really like Ryan... he's young and talented, but he still has a lot of work to do if he wants to achieve even more strides in his game.

btw I voted for Glen.
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Post#34 » by CPBalla2003 n da 863 » Fri May 11, 2012 8:38 am

I vote for Ryan, at 23 years old, he already can hit the three at a strong clip, and is a solid offensive rebounder, the Pacers were targeting Ryan first, most teams were because of his strong clip from the 3 point line, on offense, Dwight needs Ryan as in Ryan needs Dwight, but there have been plenty of games where he's produced, and also, the Pacers were giving away the two point game the whole series, don't get me wrong, i appreciate Baby for all he did and he came a long way, if the price is right for this 23 year kid then i'm going to start him.

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Post#35 » by ADRajX » Fri May 11, 2012 8:57 am

just fyi to some folks.. Ryan turned 24 a week ago... also Glen is 26... the age difference isn't much
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Post#36 » by eyriq » Fri May 11, 2012 9:28 am

Rally Cap Time!

Voted Ryan

Edit: As for the comparison, couldn't be that you're biased now, could it? Nah

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Post#37 » by FFBlitzace » Fri May 11, 2012 9:49 am

A team without Pat Garrity is a team that goes 21-61. So keep that in mind.
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Post#38 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri May 11, 2012 11:29 am

The Real Dalic wrote:Damn, I honestly didn't think the numbers would be THAT close.

Hmmmm......I did, hence why I call him pat garrity Jr same game different name.
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Post#39 » by Hilltop » Fri May 11, 2012 12:14 pm

Garrity is nowhere near as talented or as productive. It doesnt matter if you dont think Ryan deserves a big contract or if he isnt or will never be a star player. This is just being dishonest. At 23, he is way better than PG ever was

I blame the homers and PER-addicts for building him up to be something he isnt and for creating all these expectations that were doomed to fail. That is where the backlash is coming from.
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