Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II

[RookieStar]

I love Ingles...but, well - I'm 56 and I'd probably call him "sir"

If I wasn't only 5'10, I'd probably get picked ahead of him for a pick-up game at the playground (just based on appearance)

This was taken a decade and a half ago? Or 50 cases of beer ago?

[drsd]

I love Ingles...but, well - I'm 56 and I'd probably call him "sir"

If I wasn't only 5'10, I'd probably get picked ahead of him for a pick-up game at the playground (just based on appearance)

This was taken a decade and a half ago? Or 50 cases of beer ago?

Ingles looks 3-months pregnant with Orlando:

[RookieStar]

This was taken a decade and a half ago? Or 50 cases of beer ago?

Ingles looks 3-months pregnant with Orlando:

I dont get it. Is he on the Zion meal plan? Regular NBA guys lose weight throughout the season and only bulk/gain during the offseason. However it seems Jingles doesnt look to slim down. How? The guy gets regular minutes

[drsd]

I dont get it. Is he on the Zion meal plan? Regular NBA guys lose weight throughout the season and only bulk/gain during the offseason. However it seems Jingles doesnt look to slim down. How? The guy gets regular minutes

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Share a shot chart for those 20 games while you at it. He is easy coverage for focused defense, just don't let him eurostep his way to the basket by a wall 5 feet below free throw line.

Franz is really, really good defensively and on drives, but has big room to improve as shooter and to diversify his game as not to be so predictable.

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Was unaware Black could dunk, it feels like he's actually pretty athletic but is still intimidated by the NBA. Hopefully next year he'll get more comfy and start looking like Ja/Ball light.

[KillMonger]

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Was unaware Black could dunk, it feels like he's actually pretty athletic but is still intimidated by the NBA. Hopefully next year he'll get more comfy and start looking like Ja/Ball light.

His max vert was near 40 so run and jump wise, he's plenty athletic.

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[Optimus_Steel]

I dont get it. Is he on the Zion meal plan? Regular NBA guys lose weight throughout the season and only bulk/gain during the offseason. However it seems Jingles doesnt look to slim down. How? The guy gets regular minutes

He is a dad, approaching 40….metabolism and hormones change.

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We were next to last for most of the season but are currently 21st. So it’s been a big uptick in recent weeks. 12th since all star break.

[drsd]

He is a dad, approaching 40….metabolism and hormones change.

Yeh that dad bod at 40 is really a killer for NBA players.

[pepe1991]

He is a dad, approaching 40….metabolism and hormones change.

Yeh that dad bod at 40 is really a killer for NBA players.

It would be laughable to actually belive players like Lebron nowdays aren't on regulat TRT ,HGH or whatever new drugs it's aveliable to them. People in their late 30s simply don't produce naturally enough testosterone to endure nba schedule without complete and utter loss off pretty much all muscle mass.

This is how Lebron would probably look naturallly nowdays at that age

[JoshuaPotter]

He is a dad, approaching 40….metabolism and hormones change.

Yeh that dad bod at 40 is really a killer for NBA players.

It would be laughable to actually belive players like Lebron nowdays aren't on regulat TRT ,HGH or whatever new drugs it's aveliable to them. People in their late 30s simply don't produce naturally enough testosterone to endure nba schedule without complete and utter loss off pretty much all muscle mass.

This is how Lebron would probably look naturallly nowdays at that age

We could also just call Lebron a physical specimen. Two things can be true at the same time.

Iirc Lebron and I share the same age. In some ways I am more fit then ever. In other ways, you are absolutely correct, keeping muscle mass, especially twitch and the muscle memory of sprinting endurance is very hard. Or at least, harder then say 5 years ago.

[JoshuaPotter]

So, I have seen other posters bring it up. But I think its time to revisit it.

Isaac is clearly our best bench player in terms of impact. His injury will likely prevent him from winning anything on paper. Yet, here we go, playoffs are coming. Do we put Isaac into the starting the lineup come playoff time since games will have more rest?

[eyriq]

"Magic are poised for a bunch of years at the upper end of mediocrity." I thought this was interesting.

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Is Orlando a good model for the Blazers rebuilding path? They made decent draft choices and some trades to fill out the roster. Now they are in the playoff hunt again after a fairly short (3-5 seasons) time in the cellar.

It depends on what your goals are. Do you want to be a playoff team? Or do you want to contend for a title? If you are happy with the former, the Magic are a prime example, likely in position to be a reasonably solid playoff team for a long time. They have all of their first-round picks going forward and a nice but not elite group of players with Paolo Banchero being the standout. To illustrate their situation, they have three players in The Ringer’s top 100 (same as the Blazers). The biggest problem is that none of them are in the top 30 (same as the Blazers), although if they redid the rankings today Banchero would probably sneak in there. Let’s assume Banchero keeps developing and becomes a superstar. As Blazers fans well know, one superstar is generally not enough to become a true contender. Will Franz Wagner and Jalen Suggs get them to the top? Seems unlikely. So where are the players going to come from that gets them to the promised land? While Orlando has its future first-round draft picks, the Magic don’t have anyone else’s except for one from the Nuggets. They are either going to need to get really lucky with a late first-rounder or they are going to need to package a whole bunch of them in a trade and... get really lucky. You never know but the Magic are poised for a bunch of years at the upper end of mediocrity. I doubt that’s a model that Cronin is interested in."

[eyriq]

21 and 22 year olds are leading the team to the organization's second double digit win improvement in a row. Two 20 year old lotto talents are in the pipeline. Significant pre-extension cap space. But we need to get lucky with late first rounders to avoid mediocrity?

[JoshuaPotter]

21 and 22 year olds are leading the team to the organization's second double digit win improvement in a row. Two 20 year old lotto talents are in the pipeline. Significant pre-extension cap space. But we need to get lucky with late first rounders to avoid mediocrity?

I thought it was a good "outside" looking in.

I do not agree with their treadmill assessment of Franz though. I think his peak will be high enough.

As you say, we have a couple draft picks on the back end.

Yet Portland has a similar problem to us. I don't recall a single superstar saying "i wan't to sign in Portland" in the similar vein to Orlando. This means, teams like the Thunder have really managed to do something special in terms of building a potential contender just thru the draft.