Is Arenas Worse Than Rashard?

Mad Balla 15 · Post #1 » by **Mad Balla 15** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:13 am

Is Arenas worse than Rashard? I know Rashard sucked and all but his best seasons in Orlando came with Turkoglu here and if Otis knew he was getting Turkoglu back shouldn't he have tried to see how he would've played with Rashard? I guess the only benefits from it are that Bass/Anderson both get to play more and no Duhon. Nevertheless, Arenas is playing even worse than Rashard.

In 12 games Arenas is averaging 9.6 PPG on 36%FG / 3.9 APG / 3 RPG. Oh also, I thought this guy was supposed to be the teams closer (how many times was it posted "Go search Gilbert and clutch on youtube) yet the guy can't even get PT in the 4th quarter :lol:

Otis's half son has yet to impress...

MickaelPietrus · Post #2 » by **MickaelPietrus** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:15 am

It's Stan who's playing him 14 minutes and not a single minute in Overtime because his Jameer is not afraid.

Gilbert at least forces Duhon out of the rotation.

Mad Balla 15 · Post #3 » by **Mad Balla 15** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:15 am

I didn't realize someone else had made a topic on Gilbert. Mods can merge this if they want.

Also just want to add I don't completely blame Gilbert, Stan is using him kinda like he used Vince. Vince and Gilbert are both volume scorers who need the ball in the their hands as well as sufficient PT. Stan only playing Gilbert 23 minutes doens't allow him to get into a rhythm at all.

Obie09 · Post #4 » by **Obie09** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:23 am

The dude is coming off the bench, playing very low minutes, moving the ball around well, has only been here 2 weeks and you are contemplating whether hes worse than the 31 year old 3 pt shooter who just camps in the corner? Everyone knew his shooting percentage would be low. I expected him to average 13 or so ppg which is still very possible.

The best part of getting him was that it makes that idiot Duhon never see playing time. That alone was worth getting Arenas. He just needs something closer to 30 mpg. Notice the one game where he got 30 minutes he was 4 rebounds from a triple double.

407Junkie · Post #5 » by **407Junkie** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:33 am

We'll never know because our fraud coach will never give him minutes. Hope we don't waste too many years sticking by this coach throughout D. Howard's prime.

MickaelPietrus · Post #6 » by **MickaelPietrus** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:35 am

407Junkie wrote:We'll never know because our fraud coach will never give him minutes. Hope we don't waste too many years sticking by this coach throughout D. Howard's prime.

Oh god, Chris Jent has just joined RealGM!

magicman123 · Post #7 » by **magicman123** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:35 am

arenas, hedo, jrich, clark>>carter, lewis

mattyBoi · Post #8 » by **mattyBoi** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:46 am

He's not playing well at all, and he is making alot of mistakes on both ends. I'll leave it at that for now.

AgEnT50 · Post #9 » by **AgEnT50** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:47 am

If Arenas got Rashard type mins this wouldn't even be a discussion

BassWhoopin · Post #10 » by **BassWhoopin** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:50 am

Lewis is a good player on a bad team, and this year with the magic he was a bad player on a good team.

Gilbert has not impressed (dont forget San Antonio where he turned the game around for us) but he needs more time on the court and just let him play ball, SVG is kind of a control freak, which can help on defense, but limits Gil's play making abilitys on offense. We need to start pushing the ball more

I know I would do the Arenas for Lewis trade a million times over.

SolidSnake008 · Post #11 » by **SolidSnake008** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:51 am

I don't know how to feel about Arenas but it's almost like he not getting a chance to get in a Rhythm

BassWhoopin · Post #12 » by **BassWhoopin** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:52 am

BTW just compare the Careers of Lewis and Arenas, you will find your answer very quickly.

BassWhoopin · Post #13 » by **BassWhoopin** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:54 am

AgEnT50 wrote:If Arenas got Rashard type mins this wouldn't even be a discussion

couldn't have said it better myself

mattyBoi · Post #14 » by **mattyBoi** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:55 am

Actually I can't just leave it at that. People thought Rashard was underperforming and undeserving of his contract, Arenas is blowing him out of the water. Minutes or not, he hasn't been very deserving. This guy is our highest paid player for 3 more seasons after this one, and he is coming off the bench and playing unspectacular at age 29 which should be his prime.

What scares me is the fact that someone with such a huge contract is on our bench at all. What happens when it comes time to resign Jameer? How can we justify the contract then? What about when it comes time to resign Ryno and Bass? That contract is going to haunt us in a major way.

Obie09 · Post #15 » by **Obie09** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:04 am

^we just traded horrible contracts and got a better and younger player. It's not like we could have dumped rashard for a hamburger. we would have a horrible contract no matter what, just that this horrible contract fits our team better and will give us a better chance at winning a title.

sm182 · Post #16 » by **sm182** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:12 am

There may have been some wisdom in acquiring Hedo and Jason Richardson.

There was no thought whatsoever in acquiring Arenas. You already have Nelson. Did you really need to add 30 million worth of salary for a backup point guard?

Come playoff time you might be glad you have Arenas. But if he's only playing 20 minutes a night, there's no reason to expect he'd be in any type of rhythm come playoff time. He needs to either be played more or you're basically self-admitting the deal was stupid.

bigpimpatl · Post #17 » by **bigpimpatl** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:13 am

Obie09 wrote:The dude is coming off the bench, playing very low minutes, moving the ball around well, has only been here 2 weeks and you are contemplating whether hes worse than the 31 year old 3 pt shooter who just camps in the corner? Everyone knew his shooting percentage would be low. I expected him to average 13 or so ppg which is still very possible.

The best part of getting him was that it makes that idiot Duhon never see playing time. That alone was worth getting Arenas. He just needs something closer to 30 mpg. Notice the one game where he got 30 minutes he was 4 rebounds from a triple double.

but, but, but, he brought guns in the locker room!!!!1111!!!1!!1111

SolidSnake008 · Post #18 » by **SolidSnake008** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:14 am

sm182 wrote:There may have been some wisdom in acquiring Hedo and Jason Richardson.

There was no thought whatsoever in acquiring Arenas. You already have Nelson. Did you really need to add 30 million worth of salary for a backup point guard?

Come playoff time you might be glad you have Arenas. But if he's only playing 20 minutes a night, there's no reason to expect he'd be in any type of rhythm come playoff time. He needs to either be played more or you're basically self-admitting the deal was stupid.

the thing is Stan is the one that controls that and he can be kinda stubborn

Viper1500 · Post #19 » by **Viper1500** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:47 am

Hes producing almost what Rashard did on less than 20 mpg.. Come on

magic_turk · Post #20 » by **magic_turk** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:53 am

Lol at the people complaining about his contract..rashard was pretty much on the same amount.

Would you guys rather have gilbert backing up as a 6th man or have bass sitting on the bench with ryno behind him and rashard starting??