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Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick

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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#181 » by arsenal6106 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:08 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Good quotes but I wonder how his defense and passing are.


http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... g-sleepers

This guy is saying that his post defense is very weak. (video included so check out the link)

Weakness: Post Defense

On the defensive end, Nicholson plays like a skinny and long player. He bites on too many pump fakes and struggles keeping his hands straight up when contesting shots. He allows 40.7 percent shooting and a PPP of 0.770, placing him in the 56th percentile in terms of post defense. He commits fouls 10.1 percent of the time when he gets posted up.


Nicholson allows his man get into his body way too easily, which negates his athletic skill. It's harder to contest shots with your hands up when a guy is jumping right into your chest. He needs to do a better job of pushing guys away from the basket. If he can do those things, his foul rate will go down and he will be more effective on the defensive end.

Player Comparison: Smaller Al Jefferson

Al Jefferson is one of the last true post guys, using fantastic footwork and his length to get off clean looks. Andrew Nicholson can play that same role.
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#182 » by Skin » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:13 pm

His defense is plenty better than most of the other players who were available and most certainly better than Ryan Anderson and Glen Davis.

All Drew needs to be is a good weakside defender. Dwight will carry the majority of the load in the paint. Besides, he's not a finished product.
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#183 » by Skin » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:13 pm

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Nyce_1 wrote:Good quotes but I wonder how his defense and passing are.


http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... g-sleepers

This guy is saying that his post defense is very weak. (video included so check out the link)

Weakness: Post Defense

On the defensive end, Nicholson plays like a skinny and long player. He bites on too many pump fakes and struggles keeping his hands straight up when contesting shots. He allows 40.7 percent shooting and a PPP of 0.770, placing him in the 56th percentile in terms of post defense. He commits fouls 10.1 percent of the time when he gets posted up.


Nicholson allows his man get into his body way too easily, which negates his athletic skill. It's harder to contest shots with your hands up when a guy is jumping right into your chest. He needs to do a better job of pushing guys away from the basket. If he can do those things, his foul rate will go down and he will be more effective on the defensive end.

Player Comparison: Smaller Al Jefferson

Al Jefferson is one of the last true post guys, using fantastic footwork and his length to get off clean looks. Andrew Nicholson can play that same role.

OH PLEASE OH PLEASE tell me that we got Al Jefferson!!! :D
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#184 » by RookieStar » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:46 pm

^^^ we got the shorter, skinnier version LOL
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#185 » by Nyce_1 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:52 pm

Whoa, defense def needs work, but he'll get it done. Smart players are easy to teach.
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#186 » by MagicFan32 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:59 pm

For the last time Nicholson is not a stretch 4, I wish people would atleast look at a stat sheet, much less actual video before saying stupid things
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#187 » by OrlandO » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:32 pm

MagicFan32 wrote:For the last time Nicholson is not a stretch 4, I wish people would atleast look at a stat sheet, much less actual video before saying stupid things

This is true, but he may just be scratching the surface on his 3pt shooting ability...

Freshman year: 0 3pt attempts
Sophomore year: 0 3pt attempts
Junior year: 6/23 - 26% from 3, 5.5% of FGA from 3
Senior year: 23-53 - 43% from 3, 13% of FGA from 3
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#188 » by londoncollin » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:13 am

Nyce_1 wrote:Whoa, defense def needs work, but he'll get it done. Smart players are easy to teach.

That and he should hit the weight room pretty hard to build some more strength.
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#189 » by SolidSnake008 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:12 am

Ok after having a few days to soak it in i'm totally on board the Drew bandwagon.....Like his potential...A little David West mixed with Al Jefferson except both those guys can't hit 3's like Drew can or block shots.......regardless of how our roster shapes up i would like to see him playing every game....15~20 minutes a night sound good.....
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#190 » by OrlandO » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:35 am

Yahoo Sports actually gave us an A for our draft picks...
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Additions: Andrew Nicholson, Kyle O'Quinn
Grade: A
Ryan Anderson is a terrific player, and Nicholson certainly wasn't drafted to replace Anderson in any meaningful way, but perhaps it's time to try a more typical power forward type next to Dwight Howard? Assuming Dwight … y'know.
Not as a starter, mind you, because we've been hyping Anderson for years. Just in the mix.
Nicholson has all you need from a big four, and though he lacks a bit in the rebounding department, the Magic have a guy to help with that. He's a long, aggressive scoring type that will turn 23 a month into the season and be able to help early on.
O'Quinn is a banger, and little else but camp fodder at this point. He's a big banger, though, so he'll be around.
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#191 » by ivDT » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:01 am

anyone know when nicholson will be officially introduced?
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#192 » by OrlandO » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:15 am

ivDT wrote:anyone know when nicholson will be officially introduced?

Monday but time hasn't been set yet I don't think.
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#193 » by SolidSnake008 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:17 am

ivDT wrote:anyone know when nicholson will be officially introduced?

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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#194 » by duppyy » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:16 am

I think you guys got a great pick with Andrew Nicholson.

I watch a lot of his games and it seems like he got better every game. His work in the post is great.

I'm sure he can learn a lot from Ewing.(Do you guys still have him coaching dwight?)
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#195 » by Nyce_1 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:42 pm

YounG GunneR wrote:I think you guys got a great pick with Andrew Nicholson.

I watch a lot of his games and it seems like he got better every game. His work in the post is great.

I'm sure he can learn a lot from Ewing.(Do you guys still have him coaching dwight?)

Ewing was let go, with the rest of the coaching staff. We'll find out who our new big man coach will be next week, after we hire HC.

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ivDT wrote:anyone know when nicholson will be officially introduced?

Monday but time hasn't been set yet I don't think.
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#196 » by Mule Tears » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:55 pm

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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#197 » by orlandomike » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:02 pm

I see 6' 9" small forward
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#198 » by SolidSnake008 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:36 pm

Naw he's a power forward....he'll be alright.....he's around 240 now....no reason he can't add on a few with the best trainers money can buy......Paul Milsap is just fine and he's shorter than Nicholson.....Al Jefferson is just fine and they're the same height.....but Nicholson is longer than those guys....he'll be fine at the PF slot....i'm excited because offensively he's multifaceted....Can hit the 3....nice Mid-range game.....excellent post game.....great at the pump fake to put the ball on the floor....has good potential defensively because of his length.....he need to work on his body though and his ball control to cut down the turnovers.....

But i'm excited to see this kid tear up the Summer League....excited to see what he can do on the floor....i mean dude dropped 44 in college...while it may not have been the absolute best competition dropping 44 when all the defense is focused on you....he got some skills....
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#199 » by arkknight1988 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:40 pm

if he can get in the weight room like dwight did he will be fine. i don't want him camping at the 3pt line like anderson
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Re: Breaking: Magic Select Andrew Nicholson with 19th Pick 

Post#200 » by thelead » Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:43 pm

I see a skinny young Brandon Bass.
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