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Post#1 Power Ranking
Mon Dec 3, 2012 3:58 pm by OrlDave

Power Rankings for 11/26-12/2 (11/27-12/3)

Monday Releases:

ESPN: Stein (Magic Rank 20, previously 25)

http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings/_/year/2013/week/5

NBA.com: Schuhmann (Magic Rank 23, previous 24)

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/?ls=iref:nbahpt6b

NBCsports/Probasketballtalk: Helin: (Magic Rank 25, Previous 24)

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... 1/related/

Bleacher Report: Strauss (Magic Rank 23, Previous 24)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1429 ... ber/page/9

SBNation.com: Rosenthal (Magic Rank 23, Previous 24)

http://www.sbnation.com/2012/12/3/37190 ... onio-spurs

Tuesday Releases:

Foxsports: Amico (Magic Rank 22, Previous 25)

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/powerRankings

Cbssports.com: Moore (Magic Rank 23, Previous Rank 25)

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/powerrankings

Sports.Yahoo.com: Spears (Magic Rank 22, Previous 24)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-p ... 04970.html

Daily Releases:

ESPN: Hollinger (Magic Rank for Dec 4th is 22, Previous day 25)

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings/_/page/2

Highest Weekly Rank in Bold, Lowest in Italics.

Power Rankings for 12/3-12/10 (12/4-12/11) are located on Page 3.
Power Rankings for 12/10-12/17 (12/11-12/18) are located on page 5.
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Post#2 Re: Power Ranking peak
Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:12 pm by OrlandO

Notice how far we moved up and lakers moved down after yesterday lollololol. Both of ESPN's ranking are BS. The former focuses too much on recent wins/losses and the latter sometimes doesn't focus enough on wins/losses.
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Post#3 Re: Power Ranking peak
Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:24 pm by OrlDave

OrlandO wrote:Notice how far we moved up and lakers moved down after yesterday lollololol. Both of ESPN's ranking are BS. The former focuses too much on recent wins/losses and the latter sometimes doesn't focus enough on wins/losses.


Yep, agreed. I think the NBA.com one is probably pretty close (for us anyway).
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Post#4 Re: Power Ranking peak
Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:45 pm by BadMofoPimp

Eh, Magic will be ranked higher when they grab the eighth seed in the playoffs by the end of the year.
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Post#5 Re: Power Ranking peak
Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:58 pm by RickB-Orlando

Stein seems to be emphasizing the Lakers' lack of defense rather than our strong, well balanced play. If we didn't have four more on the road trip, I'd be hoping for two more games like this and some eyes opening to our potential. I just don't know how realistic that is on a five game trip (though obviously winning game one was huge).
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Post#6 Re: Power Ranking peak
Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:38 pm by Ballah

I think you are being pessimistic, this team is playoff bound if Jameer is playing. Specially when we can have Turk/Harrington as our SF rotation instead of Harkless/Jones.
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Post#7 Re: Power Ranking peak
Mon Dec 3, 2012 8:57 pm by Malik Starks

BadMofoPimp wrote:Eh, Magic will be ranked higher when they grab the eighth seed in the playoffs by the end of the year.


Exactly, as I've said before people aren't recognizing that Magic have played a very tough schedule thus far. Coupled with the fact we have young players and the injuries sustained to some of our best. The month of December looks much easier (on paper), plus this unit is starting to come together and understand their roles.

If they can stay healthy, get Turk and Harrington back, the Magic have the potential to be pretty good.
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Post#8 Re: Power Ranking peak
Mon Dec 3, 2012 9:12 pm by OrlDave

Malik Starks wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Eh, Magic will be ranked higher when they grab the eighth seed in the playoffs by the end of the year.


Exactly, as I've said before people aren't recognizing that Magic have played a very tough schedule thus far. Coupled with the fact we have young players and the injuries sustained to some of our best. The month of December looks much easier (on paper), plus this unit is starting to come together and understand their roles.

If they can stay healthy, get Turk and Harrington back, the Magic have the potential to be pretty good.


Our SOS is .485, not weak per say, but not "very tough". We've played Detroit, Detroit, Cleveland, Minnesota, Toronto, Pheonix... We won 4 of those 6 games + Denver (2nd game) and this last game which was pure adrenaline. We do have some nice talent on this team and it's entirely possible everything starts to jell and we go on a run, buut... we've mostly been losing to the playoff contending teams we've faced.
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Post#9 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:07 am by Malik Starks

OrlDave wrote:
Malik Starks wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Eh, Magic will be ranked higher when they grab the eighth seed in the playoffs by the end of the year.


Exactly, as I've said before people aren't recognizing that Magic have played a very tough schedule thus far. Coupled with the fact we have young players and the injuries sustained to some of our best. The month of December looks much easier (on paper), plus this unit is starting to come together and understand their roles.

If they can stay healthy, get Turk and Harrington back, the Magic have the potential to be pretty good.


Our SOS is .485, not weak per say, but not "very tough". We've played Detroit, Detroit, Cleveland, Minnesota, Toronto, Pheonix... We won 4 of those 6 games + Denver (2nd game) and this last game which was pure adrenaline. We do have some nice talent on this team and it's entirely possible everything starts to jell and we go on a run, buut... we've mostly been losing to the playoff contending teams we've faced.


That's right, but the schedule we've played + the injuries (7-4 with Jameer) + the young players + new players and staff is my point. All four of those factors COMBINED are why we have a losing record, not any one taken in isolation.

It's my belief that our young players are developing at an accelerated rate (particulary Vuc), the players are beginning to understand their roles, AND the schedule in December is much easier. I think we could be .500 by this upcoming Monday. I said before the season began I believe this is a playoff team, and I have never given up on that belief. The only limiting factor is possible injuries imo.
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Post#10 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 9:58 am by OrlDave

Malik Starks wrote:
OrlDave wrote:
Malik Starks wrote:


That's right, but the schedule we've played + the injuries (7-4 with Jameer) + the young players + new players and staff is my point. All four of those factors COMBINED are why we have a losing record, not any one taken in isolation.

It's my belief that our young players are developing at an accelerated rate (particulary Vuc), the players are beginning to understand their roles, AND the schedule in December is much easier. I think we could be .500 by this upcoming Monday. I said before the season began I believe this is a playoff team, and I have never given up on that belief. The only limiting factor is possible injuries imo.


You make good points and it is possible. After last night I'm much more likely to believe it. Beating LA (a fairly dysfunctional team) with all the emotion involved is one thing, but following it up against a good GState team, a game that should have been a let down, is another.

I've been a big supporter of Vuc's and I think he can make us forget about Dwight. At least in rebounding and scoring, probably never in straight up defense/blocks. But close enough imo. We do have some nice talent on this team and if it all comes together then it's possible for a low playoff seed this year. I'm really interested to see if Turk / Harrington coming back helps or hurts the team.
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Post#11 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 10:07 am by BadMofoPimp

Now, if the Magic are playing close to .500 ball come trade deadline, I wouldn't be surprised Henny making a trade to obtain starting level talent to make that playoff push. That, would be awesome and I could see it happening. But, still gotta take it one game at a time to see what happens as it is a long season.
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Post#12 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:09 am by KingRobb02

BadMofoPimp wrote:Now, if the Magic are playing close to .500 ball come trade deadline, I wouldn't be surprised Henny making a trade to obtain starting level talent to make that playoff push. That, would be awesome and I could see it happening. But, still gotta take it one game at a time to see what happens as it is a long season.

If he does that, he should be fired immediately. You don't spend all summer telling us you're building for the future and then go all in once you have a couple of good months. Let's face it, we have had an easy schedule. We have only beaten 3 quality teams. The Nuggets on opening night, the Lakers in an emotional performance that is unlikely to be repeated (31 points in 6 mintes?), and last night the Warriors. Every game we lose is by at least 6 points. It's not like we're the Lakers losing on George Hill buzzer beaters or anything. This team is not winning a title this year, so just smile and enjoy the wins and keep planning for the future.
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Post#13 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:14 am by BadMofoPimp

KingRobb02 wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Now, if the Magic are playing close to .500 ball come trade deadline, I wouldn't be surprised Henny making a trade to obtain starting level talent to make that playoff push. That, would be awesome and I could see it happening. But, still gotta take it one game at a time to see what happens as it is a long season.

If he does that, he should be fired immediately. You don't spend all summer telling us you're building for the future and then go all in once you have a couple of good months. Let's face it, we have had an easy schedule. We have only beaten 3 quality teams. The Nuggets on opening night, the Lakers in an emotional performance that is unlikely to be repeated (31 points in 6 mintes?), and last night the Warriors. Every game we lose is by at least 6 points. It's not like we're the Lakers losing on George Hill buzzer beaters or anything. This team is not winning a title this year, so just smile and enjoy the wins and keep planning for the future.


I disagree. If the Magic are a playoff caliber team this and next year, then they could add to this team in 2014 when they have enough cash to obtain even more all-star level talent.

FYI. There are multiple ways to build a team, not just by becoming a bottom feeder for a decade waiting for a superstar.
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Post#14 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:34 am by silent1900

I think the folks hoping for playoffs should be careful what they wish for. This team, even with Hedo and Harrington back, would likely get swept in 4 while averaging about 75 points/game in the playoffs. When teams are engaged and *want* to defend us, they can do so easily. We will grab some wins in the regular season through energy and other teams' lack of focus, but come playoff time that all changes.
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Post#15 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 12:25 pm by damo[23]

Our SOS was one of the weakest around a week ago - no "recognizing we had a strong SOS" - sure we've played SAS in the past week and LA (not really that strong right now).

Honestly I don't overly care about rankings, we were 28th or 29th in the pre-season, so to jump nearly 10 places in their estimation is pretty good for me.

We were one of the hottest teams in the NBA at various points over the past few years and sometimes we'd be left out of the top 10, and frequently not top 5 when clearly we were (at the time).

I cant see that we make the playoff's, the East is weak, but I don't think its that weak. I am not even fussed by it all that much, given the circumstances. I'd love to make it, and would be an absolutely unreal story (for us) and I think the team is becoming more focused that it is a possibility. Given the East is a weaker conference (in recent history) and we made the post season twice with a sub-.500 record, I suppose its not completely out of the question. My only worry about the team is we have no real "power" players, by that I mean all stars / superstars, who just plain take over the game by quite easily being the best players on the court on many nights. Jameer, JJ, AA and even BBD are damn well trying their hardest to replicate that, maybe just a team effort gets us there.

I am still really enjoying this season so far, I didn't expect much (not in a negative way, but with such wholesale changes, I found it hard to think we'd get any kind of rhythm for at least 20 games), so the fact we've had some great games already, awesome
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Post#16 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:13 pm by fklt

I think we'll go 9-4 in the next 13 games till we face Miami, lets see the ranking then.
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Post#17 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:57 pm by OrlDave

I added a couple new rankings to the first post. I know it's pointless, but I find it fun to talk/think about. Plus they usually have a blurb about us in each ranking, so it's nice to see what various commentators think about us on a week by week basis.
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Post#18 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:06 pm by ADRajX

OrlDave wrote:I added a couple new rankings to the first post. I know it's pointless, but I find it fun to talk/think about. Plus they usually have a blurb about us in each ranking, so it's nice to see what various commentators think about us on a week by week basis.

I agree.

You should turn this into an Official Power Rankings thread, and update the info whenever new info comes out :)
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Post#19 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:21 pm by OrlDave

DJRajX wrote:
OrlDave wrote:I added a couple new rankings to the first post. I know it's pointless, but I find it fun to talk/think about. Plus they usually have a blurb about us in each ranking, so it's nice to see what various commentators think about us on a week by week basis.

I agree.

You should turn this into an Official Power Rankings thread, and update the info whenever new info comes out :)


I'll see what I can do lol :)
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Post#20 Re: Power Ranking peak
Tue Dec 4, 2012 2:27 pm by BadMofoPimp

OrlDave wrote:
I'll see what I can do lol :)


I like this idea.

Replace the Official Henny Transaction thread which is really not needed being player movement doesn't happen that often and could be covered under the Offical Speculation thread.
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