EricAnderson wrote:Kirilenko
Kemps comaprison isntterrible but Kemp was a pretty good shooter from the outside
Kirilenko in Utah (Pre-Boozer)
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EricAnderson wrote:Kirilenko
Kemps comaprison isntterrible but Kemp was a pretty good shooter from the outside
ivDT wrote:why no michael jordan comparisons?
MellowRose wrote:Can someone summarize this insider link?
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11291632
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MellowRose wrote:Can someone summarize this insider link?
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11291632
for me its Payton and Gordon. I dont care about Exum or what he will or wont turn into. I still think he becomes kerry kittles. Hes not a pg.Big Boss wrote:For me it's not Gordon vs Exum it's Payton vs Exum....PG for PG and from what i've seen from Payton......
Blue_and_Whte wrote:for me its Payton and Gordon. I dont care about Exum or what he will or wont turn into. I still think he becomes kerry kittles. Hes not a pg.Big Boss wrote:For me it's not Gordon vs Exum it's Payton vs Exum....PG for PG and from what i've seen from Payton......
Gordon will develop the skills necessary for him to transition. Contrary to popular belief players actually do aquire skills that they didnt have before.
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Orlwillbeback wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:for me its Payton and Gordon. I dont care about Exum or what he will or wont turn into. I still think he becomes kerry kittles. Hes not a pg.Big Boss wrote:For me it's not Gordon vs Exum it's Payton vs Exum....PG for PG and from what i've seen from Payton......
Gordon will develop the skills necessary for him to transition. Contrary to popular belief players actually do aquire skills that they didnt have before.
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+1
at first i supported neon's narrative regarding this, but I'am starting to see that this is true.
tiderulz wrote:RYgoBOOM wrote:tiderulz wrote:
look up Kenyon Martin and you will find another similar comparison.
I stressed this a lot too and it didn't get much of a following. I see so many similarities
yeah, ive posted the draft scouting report of Martin and it is very similar. Even their size and body type is very similar. I would say that Gordon is probably a better defender, Martin was more advanced offensively.
OrlMagic05 wrote:Kenyon was also 5 years older than Gordon when he was drafted! Martin was 23 when he was drafted and at that age he wasn't going to improve much more. Gordon has a lot of room to grow.
drsd wrote:OrlMagic05 wrote:Kenyon was also 5 years older than Gordon when he was drafted! Martin was 23 when he was drafted and at that age he wasn't going to improve much more. Gordon has a lot of room to grow.
If Gordon is the next Martin, I am pleased!
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purpleswordfish wrote:drsd wrote:OrlMagic05 wrote:Kenyon was also 5 years older than Gordon when he was drafted! Martin was 23 when he was drafted and at that age he wasn't going to improve much more. Gordon has a lot of room to grow.
If Gordon is the next Martin, I am pleased!
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http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/i ... yon-martin
I sure hope he isn't!
drsd wrote:OrlMagic05 wrote:Kenyon was also 5 years older than Gordon when he was drafted! Martin was 23 when he was drafted and at that age he wasn't going to improve much more. Gordon has a lot of room to grow.
If Gordon is the next Martin, I am pleased!
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BadMofoPimp wrote:Reached for a 2nd round talent in Nicholson.
doct3r dr3 wrote:I just can't shake the Joe Alexander/Michael Kidd-Gilchrist comparisons.
Truth24 wrote:doct3r dr3 wrote:I just can't shake the Joe Alexander/Michael Kidd-Gilchrist comparisons.
I can see a MKG comparison but AG and Alexander have nothing in common except that they both are athletes.
Player X wrote:
Strengths: Talented wing player with a winner's mentality and high motor ... An above the rim athlete capable of highlight dunks and spectacular finishes ... Has a warrior's demeanor, unafraid of contact and likes to mix it up with inside guys and crash the boards ... Put on 20 lbs between his sophomore and junior seasons, and appears as though he could add another 15-20 without hurting his agility much ... The additional weight has made him much tougher finishing around the rim and muscling for rebounds ... Really excels on the glass where he uses his amazing leaping ability and tenacity ... Hustles and scraps for every loose ball, never lacking for effort ... Has a tremendous body as a big 6'8 forward with a long wingspan. Could even possibly play some power forward on the next level with additional core strength ... Good speed and quickness, gets up and down the floor very well ... Has excellent touch around the rim ... Has gotten a lot stronger in his upper body and is able to fight through contact to finish around the rim ... Does a solid job of getting to the line where his FT shooting has really improved: 80% ... His midrange shot (10-18 feet) has shown a good deal of improvement ... Has a polished turnaround jumper which he can hit going left or right ... Has improved in his ability to get to the rim off the dribble ... Incorporates a pretty jump hook and shows solid back to the basket aptitude ... Gets a fair share of blocks due to his length and leaping ability ... Developing a strong court sense, rarely in a rush or forcing things ... Has a great attitude and is extremely coachable ... Has the chance to be a special player as he appears to have a ton of untapped potential ...
Weaknesses: To really take his game to the next level he needs to improve his outside shooting ... He can knock down perimeter shots, and shows excellent shooting mechanics, but needs to develop better range and consistency ... Also needs to improve his ability to create off the dribble ... Ball handling ability while improved is still sloppy, and the root of his turnover problems ...Can be a little overeager defensively and leave his feet on pump fakes. Also can be foul prone. Must develop a little better discipline on D, although you gotta love his intensity level ... His lateral speed is just average for a NBA small forward, hurting him a slight degree defensively. Also should try to get a little lower in his defensive stance ... Needs to improve his consistency on a game to game basis. Seven single digit games is too many for a junior with his talent ... Can be a little too reckless flying around the rim, so he'll need to be careful about injuries with opponents upending him on drives ...
Player Y wrote:
Strengths: A very athletic and versatile PF … Is a very active and energetic type of athlete, showing great leaping ability and explosiveness … Plays with a high motor… Physically lean, but is a wiry strong player who doesn’t shy away from contact … Shows a very good nose for the ball … Always must be accounted for on box outs, as he is a very good offensive rebounder and shows an outstanding 1st and 2nd jump … High IQ player, who plays to his strengths and generally makes quick and precise decisions … Is an excellent passer for a guy who is generally considered a PF prospect (2 apg as a Fr.), and is a good decision maker as well … Moves well without the ball around the rim, and makes himself available for easy buckets … An alley-oop magnet with huge suction cup hands …Usually finishes with authority … Has a good enough 1st step to sporadically create his own shot on straight line drives to his right … Impressive defensive skills … Defended some at every position while at ____, and generally was excellent considering his relative inexperience ... Contests every jump shot and is very disciplined on closeouts … Adequate shot-blocker … Understands the concept of help side defense better than a typical young player, which should allow him to play minutes immediately in the NBA … Very focused ... An extremely well-conditioned athlete, who rarely gets tired or makes “lazy” plays … Seems like a great glue guy and role player, and isn’t the type of player who needs a lot of plays run for him to be effective … Will fit in well on a team in need to energy and athleticism … Pretty competitive player who doesn’t show a lack of effort often, which will always please his coaches … Still extremely young, won’t turn 19 until about a month or so before the ____ season ...
Weaknesses: Player Y’s main weaknesses revolve around his lacking skill level on the offensive side of the ball …Despite being the 2nd leading scorer on a ____ squad that almost made it to the Final 4, Player Y needs extensive improvement offensively … His ball-handling ability is not very good right now, and he loses significant effectiveness the more he dribbles the ball … Rarely looks comfortable with his back to the rim … Not blessed with a soft touch, which suggests he will continue to have his struggles as a jump shooter, and from the line … Doesn’t seem to have a lot of range on his shot, even though he can occasionally hit 22 footers … Struggled mightily at the foul line in his only year in school (42%) and needs to work on his form, develop a little more sense of urgency and develop a set routine which replicates his mid range shot, and eliminates the "long pause" … Has a very deliberate and slow shot, sometimes it looks like the ball barely rotates when he shoots … Physically, Player Y has adequate height and strength, but he could use a little more bulk to his frame … Could get sealed by bigger PF’s in the NBA due to his narrow frame … Not particularly lengthy … Some consider Player Y a bit of a tweener, it will be interesting to see what type of body weight he can ultimately carry comfortably … Was determined to show that he was a small forward, but scouts view him strictly as a 4 for the next level ... Needs to work on his footwork, as he picks up traveling calls often when trying to create … Has high/tight hips and it sometimes shows in his lateral movements … Has a very awkward running style, and while some compare it to Rodman with the way he runs on his toes, Player Y's extremely short stride has drawn some concerns ... Though very good on the offensive glass, Player Y sometimes shows raw awareness on the defensive glass and will forget to box out or be in the wrong places when the ball has been shot ...
Overall: Considered a high character guy ... Player Y is a very good run-jump athlete and he also is a pretty high IQ guy as well … He enjoyed a pretty solid overall season at ____ and answered a few of the questions about him as an NBA prospect … He needs to work on his offensive skills and polish his game more, as well as pack on a few more pounds, but he really has good role player potential and he plays with high energy … He more than likely will be the youngest player drafted in the ____ draft, which speaks to his potential for improvement … If Player Y is drafted with the idea of becoming a high level role player instead than a franchise changing star, his outlook is extremely bright ... Look for Player Y to be a top 20 pick at least, and a likely lottery selection ...
BadMofoPimp wrote:Reached for a 2nd round talent in Nicholson.