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Post#181 » by p0peye » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:07 pm

You know who we need to get back?

Travis Diener.

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Re: Breaking: LeBron James returning to Cleveland 

Post#182 » by TNMagicFan » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:40 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:
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Orlwillbeback wrote:The talent difference between dwight and vooch is significant.


defensively anyway

And offensively


Dwight has better post moves , but Vuc has a nice jumper, and most importantly can hit free throws :lol: The free throw shooting is a huge detriment to Dwight's offensive game as a whole IMO
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Re: Breaking: LeBron James returning to Cleveland 

Post#183 » by Orlwillbeback » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:47 pm

TNMagicFan wrote:
Dwight has better post moves , but Vuc has a nice jumper, and most importantly can hit free throws :lol: The free throw shooting is a huge detriment to Dwight's offensive game as a whole IMO

you are right about the poor ft shooting, but dwight gets there so much more often that its still a net plus for him. Dwight can also beat other center with his quickness which vooch cannot do, whereas vooch is better at anything doesnt involve shooting right next to the basket.
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Re: Breaking: LeBron James returning to Cleveland 

Post#184 » by OrlandO » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:43 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:
TNMagicFan wrote:
Dwight has better post moves , but Vuc has a nice jumper, and most importantly can hit free throws :lol: The free throw shooting is a huge detriment to Dwight's offensive game as a whole IMO

you are right about the poor ft shooting, but dwight gets there so much more often that its still a net plus for him. Dwight can also beat other center with his quickness which vooch cannot do, whereas vooch is better at anything doesnt involve shooting right next to the basket.

Vuc has his own strengths near the basket... way better efficiency with tips-ins (54% vs 30%) and layups (64% vs 54%). They have comparable hook shot efficiency (39% vs 38%). Vuc is also better at turnaround jump shots (70% vs 35%) and turnaround hook shots (67% vs 38%).
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Re: Breaking: LeBron James returning to Cleveland 

Post#185 » by Orlwillbeback » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:14 pm

OrlandO wrote:
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TNMagicFan wrote:
Dwight has better post moves , but Vuc has a nice jumper, and most importantly can hit free throws :lol: The free throw shooting is a huge detriment to Dwight's offensive game as a whole IMO

you are right about the poor ft shooting, but dwight gets there so much more often that its still a net plus for him. Dwight can also beat other center with his quickness which vooch cannot do, whereas vooch is better at anything doesnt involve shooting right next to the basket.

Vuc has his own strengths near the basket... way better efficiency with tips-ins (54% vs 30%) and layups (64% vs 54%). They have comparable hook shot efficiency (39% vs 38%). Vuc is also better at turnaround jump shots (70% vs 35%) and turnaround hook shots (67% vs 38%).

so the question then is only a difference in volume?
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Re: Breaking: LeBron James returning to Cleveland 

Post#186 » by OrlandO » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:27 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:
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Orlwillbeback wrote:you are right about the poor ft shooting, but dwight gets there so much more often that its still a net plus for him. Dwight can also beat other center with his quickness which vooch cannot do, whereas vooch is better at anything doesnt involve shooting right next to the basket.

Vuc has his own strengths near the basket... way better efficiency with tips-ins (54% vs 30%) and layups (64% vs 54%). They have comparable hook shot efficiency (39% vs 38%). Vuc is also better at turnaround jump shots (70% vs 35%) and turnaround hook shots (67% vs 38%).

so the question then is only a difference in volume?

It's a mixed bag in terms of volume. Vuc had 4x the amount of tip-in attempts (he is ridiculously good at this), dwight had around 60 more layup attempts, same amount of hook shot attempts, same turnaround jumpshot attempts, dwight had 3x turnaround hook attempts. Keep in mind Dwight played 14 more games than Vuc this year.

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