Better ball-handler, Tobias or AG?

[InFlames]

MagicStarwipe thinks AG is a better ball-handler than Harris, I disagree. What do you all think?

[OrlandO]

I don't think I've seen enough of AG in NBA action to decide. Tobias isn't the greatest ball handler... he is serviceable and can run the break, but his handling seems very average to me whereas I've seen AG go behind the back, spin around in a split second and of course he also makes some very fancy passes. They probably have strengths and weaknesses in different areas of handling...

[j-ragg]

Gordon and it's not really close.

Tobias is great offensively at a lot of things but ball handling doesn't seem to be one of them.

[InFlames]

Gordon and it's not really close.

Tobias is great offensively at a lot of things but ball handling doesn't seem to be one of them.

Interesting, maybe I'm wrong. Harris' handles have always been impressive to me considering he can get his shot off at anytime and can also get to the rim. I would like to see Gordon try to get to the rim if his handles are indeed that much better than Tobias.

[MagicStarwipe]

Tobias is a straight line kind of guy. He basically drives in straight lines to places where he can get his runner off. He can run the ball up the court if there is no pressure, but most players can. His best assets are his motor, his body and that he can actually shoot the ball decently.

[Smooth_E]

Gordon.

I've seen the hesitation, the crossover, the spin, the step-back, and the euro step from him just this summer. I have yet to see Tobias do the euro and/or the spin. Tobias is good though, he's adequate. I think AG can maneuver around a little more though. In addition, I've seen more off-hand (AG left) from Gordon than Tobias.

Just my opinion/observation.

[mojosodope]

Harris has very purposeful handle. I've seen him handle well in a manner that suits his game and allows him to score. I haven't seen that from Gordon yet. I've seen gordon show off a lot of fancy handling that I do not see translating to his NBA game as of yet. I'm willing to bet Harris would handle well in a glorified pickup game against non-nba talent but the only thing I really care about is what is effective in game play.

[Orlwillbeback]

tobias,

i wrote alot more but my internet cut out.

basically aaron thinks he can handle but he cant.

[tiderulz]

Gordon and it's not really close.

Tobias is great offensively at a lot of things but ball handling doesn't seem to be one of them.

i think people overrate Gordons handles

[Last Guardian]

Gordon has more ball-handling moves that as of right now go nowhere....Tobias is more basic but he makes use of it. So, Tobias.

[ivDT]

gordon. there's a reason why they call him the light skinneded lebron.

[shadrock]

Aaron Gordon by a country mile...

[Bensational]

Gordon has more ball-handling moves that as of right now go nowhere....Tobias is more basic but he makes use of it. So, Tobias.

Well said.

Gordon's still learning how to use his skills, whereas Tobias has already figured that out. Tobias' advantage is that he's a gifted scorer, so he only needs to know the moves to get him to where he can get a good shot. Gordon doesn't have that end goal at the moment - no reliable jump shot, not the inside finisher you'd like him to be unless it's off an alley. Once Gordon can get those down, he'll have so many more tools in his arsenal to get him there, that he could be real lethal.

[Neon1]

Aaron Gordon by a galaxy. But he has no idea how to play, which pretty much negates it.

[MellowRose]

AG has street ball handles. Once the game tightens up, the handles are gone, entirely. In game, it's Tobias 10 out of 10 times. Outside of the game, for now, it's AG, and not even close.

Another way to phrase the question, IMO: Crunch time, who would you rather have handle the ball: Tobias or AG?

[NBlue]

AG has street ball handles. Once the game tightens up, the handles are gone, entirely. In game, it's Tobias 10 out of 10 times. Outside of the game, for now, it's AG, and not even close.

Another way to phrase the question, IMO: Crunch time, who would you rather have handle the ball: Tobias or AG?

These are totally different issues. If the question is who is the better technical dribbler there is no question about it -- under any situation it is AG. If there were a competition concerning dribbling there would be no doubt that AG would win over Tobias. However, dribbling is, obviously, just one tool in one's game. In most of the others (save athleticism) Tobias is -- right now -- head and shoulders above AG. I don't see how any of this is even up for debate.

[MellowRose]

AG has street ball handles. Once the game tightens up, the handles are gone, entirely. In game, it's Tobias 10 out of 10 times. Outside of the game, for now, it's AG, and not even close.

Another way to phrase the question, IMO: Crunch time, who would you rather have handle the ball: Tobias or AG?

These are totally different issues. If the question is who is the better technical dribbler there is no question about it -- under any situation it is AG. If there were a competition concerning dribbling there would be no doubt that AG would win over Tobias. However, dribbling is, obviously, just one tool in one's game. In most of the others (save athleticism) Tobias is -- right now -- head and shoulders above AG. I don't see how any of this is even up for debate.

Isn't that what I'm saying?

[NBlue]

AG has street ball handles. Once the game tightens up, the handles are gone, entirely. In game, it's Tobias 10 out of 10 times. Outside of the game, for now, it's AG, and not even close.

Another way to phrase the question, IMO: Crunch time, who would you rather have handle the ball: Tobias or AG?

These are totally different issues. If the question is who is the better technical dribbler there is no question about it -- under any situation it is AG. If there were a competition concerning dribbling there would be no doubt that AG would win over Tobias. However, dribbling is, obviously, just one tool in one's game. In most of the others (save athleticism) Tobias is -- right now -- head and shoulders above AG. I don't see how any of this is even up for debate.

Isn't that what I'm saying?

I have no idea.

[AdamTheGreek]

They're both good for different reasons.

Tobias doesn't mess around much. As someone else said, he's more of a straight line guy once he gets to the 3-point line. That means he's least likely to lose the ball in the backcourt in a 1-on-1 situation. Once he's thinking about getting to the hole though, his handles are better than Carmelo's.

Aaron's the guy you want if a team is running a fullcourt press. He's got some NASTY crossover ability that most point guard don't have. He is a bit more susceptible to turning the ball over when he gets too fancy with his between-the-legs dribbling. Also, he dribbles a little high when he enters the paint. He'll adjust though.

[BadMofoPimp]

No contest. BBD was a better ball handler than both Harris and AG.