shadrock wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:I don't like to take away real numbers from preseason, but rather look at production ratios and take the totals and eye catchy stuff out of the mix. It helps me determine what type of player we've got.
Gordon- 1 : 0.6 : 0.15. I like that point to rebound ratio. That is elite power forward territory with passing skills.
For comparison to see why I think Gordon is a 4 not a 3. Tim Duncan, an ideal traditional PF had the following ratios over his career: 1 : 0.55 : 0.1 (Points, Rebounds, Assists)
Blake Griffin: 1 : 0.45 : 0.17
An ideal stretch 4, like Dirk: 1 : 0.4 : 0.12
An ideal small forward, let's say Marion: 1 : 0.3 : 0.12
Modern day small foward, Pierce: 1 : 0.28 : 0.18
Or Melo: 1 : 0.25 : 0.125
Basically, the further you get away from the traditional PF, the further Gordon's stats get from that player.
I personally believe that unless a player is fundamentally and systematically altered, they are who they are from their early teenage years. Gordon had a 1 : 0.64 : 0.15 ratio in college and a 1 : 0.56 : 0.12 in high school. Pretty similar numbers. He'll be a power forward.
Payton- 1 : 0.5 : 0.9 : 0.2. Will get some triple dubs once he's got some experience under his belt. These are elite pass first defensive point guard ratios. Think Rondo and a better-rebounding Gary Payton.
Marble- 1 : 0.2 : 0.1 : 0.05- This is 6th man ala Crawford type ratio but with less passing. Jamal was a 16 to 4 to 4 guy for like the first 8 years of his career I think. Marble is less 3 dimensional because of the passing, but the numbers are close.
Appreciate the effort you have gone to in finding this info, but im questioning the science behind it. If you could find a way to factor in volume and efficiency in some way, it would be a more relevant stat.
His stat isn't measuring effectiveness or efficiency though. It attempts to measure the composition of a players statistics and nothing more.
