tiderulz wrote:silent1900 wrote:Rick Rolled wrote:
Care to elaborate? In detail.
Hennigan's draft picks.... Nine in total...(not six)
Nicholson
O'Quinn
Oladipo
Osby
Gordon
Payton via Saric
Marble
Hezonja
Harvey
Not counting this year's picks, and I forgot all about the irrelevant Osby.
(Not looking up actual draft positions, so bear with me)
Nicholson...drafted 19 or 21, I think? No chance he brings us that value back in trade...easy fail.
O'Quinn...drafted top half of 2nd? Failed to carve out a meaningful role on a terrible team, lost job to Dedmon. if you want to call him a push, I won't fight you on it.
Oladipo...drafted 2nd overall. Not a team in this league would consider giving up a #2 pick for him right now, and likely not in the future without a very improbable leap in development. Fine player, mind you, but not approaching the value of a #2 pick.
Osby...Fail.
Gordon...jury is still out, obviously, but as it stands now there is no way he would fetch us a #4 pick
Payton...love the kid, great pick. Just would have been nice to not get extorted for him.
Marble...meh
you call Osby, Marble and OQuinn fails, but how many 2nd round picks actually make teams or have big roles? 5%? And OQuinn was great last year. I think his game regressed because someone (FO or coach) tried to turn him into a stretch 4, instead of letting him play to his strengths. I bet he looks different under Skiles if he comes back. If Skiles can turn LArry Sanders into a DPOY candidate, he can make OQuinn a solid player.
I will definitely ride with coaching shortcomings....I was excited by Vaughn and hoping that he bring that Spurs mentality, etc to the team.... but he misused player after player AFTER PLAYER... I'm going to reserve judgement until i see how things go under Scott Skiles. Watching him in with Milwaukee and Chicago... he knows how to Milk the talent out of player...except for Tobias at the time. haha.
yup... made Larry Sanders look like a damn star in the making... he got a huge contract.... Skiles got fired.... annnnnnnnnnd where is he now.
Not every player bursts onto the scene guns blazing. Oladipo is doing a solid job transitioning from a defender with a developing offense in college and is continuing to do the same this year. These are all a bunch of kids turning into men... and If you can't see the potential of Payton and Gordon.... I'm pretty sure that "1 for 6" would change in the next couple years.
I wanted Noel, and a trade down to pick both Giannis and Gobert... but I'm still happy with Dipo because I can always see a fighter that's getting better. Give him a couple of calls because he was deserving of them... and you will see a player that takes less threes (more efficient ones), better shooting percentages and higher point totals. easily breaking that 20/4/4/2 mark which would have placed him in a higher liking in peoples books.
Nicholsen... if he turns into a decent role player.... you can't be mad at that for someone picked at 21. he has his skills.... can score in more ways than most power forwards ever will in their careers... just missing awareness on the defensive end of the court. put him on a team with a great backup center and he would be a solid offensive option in the second unit (marriese speights type of player). But inconsistent and sporadic playing time can yield inconsistent and sporadic performances. Cuz i have definitely seen games where nicholsen has put up more point than minutes played.
Anything good that you can pull out of the second round pick.... more power to you. Osby was not to shabby for a player take in the 50's...Harvey was take at a similar position and how can you argue taking the countries leading scorer... especially someone that does it at a highly efficient level.
Oquinn was a rotational player... till Vaugn messed that ish up. a tough player that defended, scored in spurts and helped fascilitate an offense. People were looking at him as a possible starter.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these players are given a second chance.
SMH to someone that can judge everything sooooo quickly. The draft is a huge gamble on its own... sometimes you win.... sometimes you lose but in my book... Hennigan has done a great job and that's why people say stuff like "In henny we trust"
