Bismack Biyombo 2016 Offensive & Defensive Highlights

[Nightman]

Probably the only guy in Toronto who could set a good pick last year. He doesn't offer much in the way of offense but he's long and very athletic so I think EP will give him plenty of lobs. Lowry missed out on a lot of those.

Still tho $70 million?

We overpaid him, but we wanted a defensive presence and we weren't going to get it by being stingy. By next year, when the cap jumps up again, his contract will likely be tradeable (Not that we'd want to, hopefully).

[Orlwillbeback]

Probably the only guy in Toronto who could set a good pick last year. He doesn't offer much in the way of offense but he's long and very athletic so I think EP will give him plenty of lobs. Lowry missed out on a lot of those.

Still tho $70 million?

We overpaid him, but we wanted a defensive presence and we weren't going to get it by being stingy. By next year, when the cap jumps up again, his contract will likely be tradeable (Not that we'd want to, hopefully).

This guy is a really great defender. That much is true. But he's never started in his career and averages like 4ppg over 5 seasons.

It will be an adventure watching this team try to score if he starts. Vooch may have to play a lot of necessity.

[PennytoShaq]

The funny thing is in the NBA now, rim protection and 3 point shooting are the two most valued skills. It appears that the Magic believe loading up on rim protection may be the next NBA trend. The reason it may be, is because in order to defend the perimeter, you need to have your wings glued to the shooters. This sometimes opens lanes for driving, but having 2 rim protectors there who can switch on to anyone makes the finish a lot harder and the kick out pass more predictable.

The Magic were the first team to embrace the spread offense and stretch 4. Now I believe they are going to be the first team to try and counter that style instead of copy it like everyone else.

If the gamble pays off, the Magic have 3 extremely unique defenders in Gordon, Ibaka and Biz. Rim protectors are a lot more rare than 3 point shooters, and so building a copycat team is far more difficult. I believe this is why our guy here reported that the Magic are so upbeat and excited about this season(compared to a lot of people here).

Regardless, I am excited to see it. I love when a team breaks the mold and tries something new. If this was two lumbering bigs who were slow down the court, it would not be new or unique. But to have two extremely athletic bigs who can switch on to guards and are highly lauded as two of the best shot blockers in the league has really not been done before at this level of athleticism.

[CoachD]

More people here need to see his offensive film. There is a huge fear that we will have zero offense up front, but Biyombo displays a few things that we have not had before. The first is he finishes plays at the rim. He has incredible intuition for positioning himself properly and ensuring he won't get blocked on his dunks. He also is able to box out two guys at once, get the rebound and putback. We haven't had a guy like that since Dwight.

To add to that, he has a nice turnaround off the low block and nice form from the top of the key as well. He was being painted here by some as a guy who is useless outside of 3 feet, but it does not appear that to be the case.

90% of NBA bigs can finish at the rim.

The truth is, in half court play, MOST TEAMS did not guard Biz last season, and simply pulled off of him and doubled on Lowry or Demar.

Cleveland did it perfectly in the ECF

[PennytoShaq]

More people here need to see his offensive film. There is a huge fear that we will have zero offense up front, but Biyombo displays a few things that we have not had before. The first is he finishes plays at the rim. He has incredible intuition for positioning himself properly and ensuring he won't get blocked on his dunks. He also is able to box out two guys at once, get the rebound and putback. We haven't had a guy like that since Dwight.

To add to that, he has a nice turnaround off the low block and nice form from the top of the key as well. He was being painted here by some as a guy who is useless outside of 3 feet, but it does not appear that to be the case.

90% of NBA bigs can finish at the rim.

The truth is, in half court play, MOST TEAMS did not guard Biz last season, and simply pulled off of him and doubled on Lowry or Demar.

Cleveland did it perfectly in the ECF

That's one of the thing about Biz that is good. If teams do not guard him, he has very good ability at finding holes, getting open and finishing. Just watch Dedmon last year for an example of someone who was not nearly as good with this. Dedmon missed dunks even. But when we had him starting, the team still reeled off a solid record.

All you have to do is watch the film to see that Bizmack can finish under tougher situations. He can box out two guys and then putback the dunk over both of them. Nobody was doing that last year for us. That's not easy. Additionally, he does get guarded in the footage too, and shows a nice turnaround from the baseline and a much better elbow J than most people probably expected to see.

[CoachD]

More people here need to see his offensive film. There is a huge fear that we will have zero offense up front, but Biyombo displays a few things that we have not had before. The first is he finishes plays at the rim. He has incredible intuition for positioning himself properly and ensuring he won't get blocked on his dunks. He also is able to box out two guys at once, get the rebound and putback. We haven't had a guy like that since Dwight.

To add to that, he has a nice turnaround off the low block and nice form from the top of the key as well. He was being painted here by some as a guy who is useless outside of 3 feet, but it does not appear that to be the case.

90% of NBA bigs can finish at the rim.

The truth is, in half court play, MOST TEAMS did not guard Biz last season, and simply pulled off of him and doubled on Lowry or Demar.

Cleveland did it perfectly in the ECF

That's one of the thing about Biz that is good. If teams do not guard him, he has very good ability at finding holes, getting open and finishing. Just watch Dedmon last year for an example of someone who was not nearly as good with this. Dedmon missed dunks even. But when we had him starting, the team still reeled off a solid record.

All you have to do is watch the film to see that Bizmack can finish under tougher situations. He can box out two guys and then putback the dunk over both of them. Nobody was doing that last year for us. That's not easy. Additionally, he does get guarded in the footage too, and shows a nice turnaround from the baseline and a much better elbow J than most people probably expected to see.

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

[Mc-o]

More people here need to see his offensive film. There is a huge fear that we will have zero offense up front, but Biyombo displays a few things that we have not had before. The first is he finishes plays at the rim. He has incredible intuition for positioning himself properly and ensuring he won't get blocked on his dunks. He also is able to box out two guys at once, get the rebound and putback. We haven't had a guy like that since Dwight.

To add to that, he has a nice turnaround off the low block and nice form from the top of the key as well. He was being painted here by some as a guy who is useless outside of 3 feet, but it does not appear that to be the case.

90% of NBA bigs can finish at the rim.

The truth is, in half court play, MOST TEAMS did not guard Biz last season, and simply pulled off of him and doubled on Lowry or Demar.

Cleveland did it perfectly in the ECF

And this is what the issue is , I just think it would be really hard to start Bismack and EP at the same time because teams were leaving EP open a lot last year as well . But Bismack fits perfect with our bench , because Mario , Augustine , and green can all shoot

[Orlwillbeback]

I didn't think it was possible for us to find a guy with a usage rate 3 percentage points lower than Harkless, but we did

[MagicStarwipe]

It's also possible Bismack may benefit from not playing in the iso heavy offense of the Raps.

[OrlandoNed]

90% of NBA bigs can finish at the rim.

The truth is, in half court play, MOST TEAMS did not guard Biz last season, and simply pulled off of him and doubled on Lowry or Demar.

Cleveland did it perfectly in the ECF

That's one of the thing about Biz that is good. If teams do not guard him, he has very good ability at finding holes, getting open and finishing. Just watch Dedmon last year for an example of someone who was not nearly as good with this. Dedmon missed dunks even. But when we had him starting, the team still reeled off a solid record.

All you have to do is watch the film to see that Bizmack can finish under tougher situations. He can box out two guys and then putback the dunk over both of them. Nobody was doing that last year for us. That's not easy. Additionally, he does get guarded in the footage too, and shows a nice turnaround from the baseline and a much better elbow J than most people probably expected to see.

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

Totally disagree. Defense and rebounding is the most important thing about the center position, regardless of offense. Putbacks following an offensive rebound and finishing in the paint is an adequate enough skillset for a center on a playoff team.

[PennytoShaq]

90% of NBA bigs can finish at the rim.

The truth is, in half court play, MOST TEAMS did not guard Biz last season, and simply pulled off of him and doubled on Lowry or Demar.

Cleveland did it perfectly in the ECF

That's one of the thing about Biz that is good. If teams do not guard him, he has very good ability at finding holes, getting open and finishing. Just watch Dedmon last year for an example of someone who was not nearly as good with this. Dedmon missed dunks even. But when we had him starting, the team still reeled off a solid record.

All you have to do is watch the film to see that Bizmack can finish under tougher situations. He can box out two guys and then putback the dunk over both of them. Nobody was doing that last year for us. That's not easy. Additionally, he does get guarded in the footage too, and shows a nice turnaround from the baseline and a much better elbow J than most people probably expected to see.

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

I have to side with Vogel and Hennigan's take over yours, plus what I have seen.

The Ben Wallace comment pretty much took it out of reality for me. Ben Wallace never showcased great form on the elbow jumper or smooth turanround jumpers.

Also, there is a link with him making shots from 10 feet. So when you say he can not do it at all, there is easily accessed video evidence that disproves this.

[Orlwillbeback]

That's one of the thing about Biz that is good. If teams do not guard him, he has very good ability at finding holes, getting open and finishing. Just watch Dedmon last year for an example of someone who was not nearly as good with this. Dedmon missed dunks even. But when we had him starting, the team still reeled off a solid record.

All you have to do is watch the film to see that Bizmack can finish under tougher situations. He can box out two guys and then putback the dunk over both of them. Nobody was doing that last year for us. That's not easy. Additionally, he does get guarded in the footage too, and shows a nice turnaround from the baseline and a much better elbow J than most people probably expected to see.

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

The Ben Wallace comment pretty much took it out of reality for me. Ben Wallace never showcased great form on the elbow jumper or smooth turanround jumpers.

Also, there is a link with him making shots from 10 feet. So when you say he can not do it at all, there is easily accessed video evidence that disproves this.

Gimme a break man, that video contains footage of one of maybe the 2 or 3 times Biyombo made jumper all season long. Saying Biz has a sweet midrange and turnaround jumper is like saying the same thing about Dedmon, and Dedmon might actually be better at it than Biz.

[Mc-o]

That's one of the thing about Biz that is good. If teams do not guard him, he has very good ability at finding holes, getting open and finishing. Just watch Dedmon last year for an example of someone who was not nearly as good with this. Dedmon missed dunks even. But when we had him starting, the team still reeled off a solid record.

All you have to do is watch the film to see that Bizmack can finish under tougher situations. He can box out two guys and then putback the dunk over both of them. Nobody was doing that last year for us. That's not easy. Additionally, he does get guarded in the footage too, and shows a nice turnaround from the baseline and a much better elbow J than most people probably expected to see.

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

Totally disagree. Defense and rebounding is the most important thing about the center position, regardless of offense. Putbacks following an offensive rebound and finishing in the paint is an adequate enough skillset for a center on a playoff team.

that's only true of you have the personell on offense to be able to have a center that limited on offense . Unfortunately the magic do not have that personell . We have a point guard who was left open a lot when he didn't have the ball . Sure he was able to start some games with the raptors but they have two all star guards starting who get doubled team . Rt now we do not have that kind of player much less two players who can produce that kind of offense .

[PennytoShaq]

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

The Ben Wallace comment pretty much took it out of reality for me. Ben Wallace never showcased great form on the elbow jumper or smooth turanround jumpers.

Also, there is a link with him making shots from 10 feet. So when you say he can not do it at all, there is easily accessed video evidence that disproves this.

Gimme a break man, that video contains footage of one of maybe the 2 or 3 times Biyombo made jumper all season long. Saying Biz has a sweet midrange and turnaround jumper is like saying the same thing about Dedmon, and Dedmon might actually be better at it than Biz.

I clearly said he had good form. That was my main point. Good form plus confidence and still being young usually equate to improvement over time.

[Mc-o]

That's one of the thing about Biz that is good. If teams do not guard him, he has very good ability at finding holes, getting open and finishing. Just watch Dedmon last year for an example of someone who was not nearly as good with this. Dedmon missed dunks even. But when we had him starting, the team still reeled off a solid record.

All you have to do is watch the film to see that Bizmack can finish under tougher situations. He can box out two guys and then putback the dunk over both of them. Nobody was doing that last year for us. That's not easy. Additionally, he does get guarded in the footage too, and shows a nice turnaround from the baseline and a much better elbow J than most people probably expected to see.

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

I have to side with Vogel and Hennigan's take over yours, plus what I have seen.

The Ben Wallace comment pretty much took it out of reality for me. Ben Wallace never showcased great form on the elbow jumper or smooth turanround jumpers.

Also, there is a link with him making shots from 10 feet. So when you say he can not do it at all, there is easily accessed video evidence that disproves this.

Lol the video evidence only shows the few shots he has made , if he had a "smooth" jumper , than why hasn't he been able to be a starter in this league ? He only started because of injury , nothing he has done has shown, he should be a full time starter . Now if he greatly improves than that can change but so far , Bismack is a great defender but his offense is holding him back , hence his career average of 5 points a game , and most of those points are dunks !

[MagicMatic]

There aren't many centers in the NBA that are elite rim protectors and offensive juggernauts. Two way centers are limited and if you run your offense through one, you most likely aren't winning very often in today's NBA. Look at centers on playoff teams.

Also, lol at people still complaining about acquiring biz because he is "a liability on offense". I'm pretty sure we didn't sign him here for his amazing post moves or jumper.

Last I checked we have Vuc AND Biz giving us the ability for a situational rotation.

[Orlwillbeback]

The guy has been in the league for 5 years already. He is on his second contract. He should have a competent jumper by now if he was ever capable of developing one.

The concept of development seems odd considering our team's situation and our goals for this offseason.

[Mc-o]

There aren't many centers in the NBA that are elite rim protectors and offensive juggernauts. Two way centers are limited and if you run your offense through one, you most likely aren't winning very often in today's NBA. Look at centers on playoff teams.

Also, lol at people still complaining about acquiring biz because he is "a liability on offense". I'm pretty sure we didn't sign him here for his amazing post moves or jumper.

Last I checked we have Vuc AND Biz giving us the ability for a situational rotation.

I agree that having Vuc and biz helps with options at center , I think what people are discussing is people who think biz should start over Vuc , when it seems that Vuc is a better fit with our starters and biz is a better fit with our bench !

[BadMofoPimp]

Technically, the Magic opponents can double team Fournier, Ibaka and AG at willl while leaving Elf or Bizmark open.

[PennytoShaq]

I watched every minute Biz played last season.

I'm telling you, he was a massive net negative on the floor most nights because teams would not guard him and would pack the paint. He's not finding holes at the rim when the paint is packed in. If he could shoot from 10 feet, sure ... but he can't. At all.

Can Biz guard the post? Yes.
Can he block shots and rebound at a high rate? Yes.

Offensively though, he reminds you every night why he is truly NOT meant to be an NBA starter. He is just too limited. Ben Wallace was better offensively than Biz

I have to side with Vogel and Hennigan's take over yours, plus what I have seen.

The Ben Wallace comment pretty much took it out of reality for me. Ben Wallace never showcased great form on the elbow jumper or smooth turanround jumpers.

Also, there is a link with him making shots from 10 feet. So when you say he can not do it at all, there is easily accessed video evidence that disproves this.

Lol the video evidence only shows the few shots he has made , if he had a "smooth" jumper , than why hasn't he been able to be a starter in this league ? He only started because of injury , nothing he has done has shown, he should be a full time starter . Now if he greatly improves than that can change but so far , Bismack is a great defender but his offense is holding him back , hence his career average of 5 points a game , and most of those points are dunks !

Addressed all that in my last post.