Post#1536 » by Skin » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:24 pm
MagicMatic wrote:Skin wrote:MagicMatic wrote:
Go for it. Who is replacing him at shooting guard while he comes off the bench?
Better game.... who can we trade him for? Is he good enough to get any of these guys? If so, which ones?
Donovan Mitchell
Devin Booker
Anthony Edwards
Tyrese Maxey
Desmond Bane
Jaylen Brown
Dejounte Murray
Mikal Bridges
Devin Vassell
Shaedon Sharpe
It's funny that you listed a bunch of stars in a trade for "a sixth man". So you don't value Suggs highly, but think he's giving us this return?
Every guy you listed will cost more assets. Why? Because they are 10x more expensive on salary alone and some of these guys are considered nearly 'untouchable' like Booker and Edwards.
Not only that, but most are established names. Suggs is not getting half of these guys back in a 1:1 return and I''d argue that moving him now doesn't necessarily make Orlando better in terms of chemistry and contribute to the identity they've established. Sharpe shouldn't even be on this list. Portland is giving US assets for trading Suggs for him. Vassell is probably the closest in value
after Suggs is paid. Even then, you are sacrificing defense for offense and Im sure SA feels the same way about him that ORL feels about Suggs.
So to answer your question... I'd rather have Suggs without giving up multiple 1st round picks and trying to match salary filler with more assets. We are in year 3 with him and he still has potential.
Happy to hear your reply! Glad you agree that Suggs is not in this caliber as a player. These are the types of players who I think would take us into true contender levels. I didn't even bother to list guys like SGA, Luka, PG, Beal, etc who are on contenders but are untouchable or out of our timeline. Suggs isn't even in the top half of the league in terms of starting SG value. You even admitted that we would have to add multiple 1sts to get there.
I did throw a couple of pet cats in there in Vassell and Sharpe. I would trade Suggs for Vassell in a snap and if POR would give us Sharpe AND MORE, hell yeah I'd take that offer too (but that would never happen).
But the bottom line is you helped to prove my point. Suggs is not at this level. He doesn't have that value. Maybe one day he'll get there, and I'll give him credit if he does... but he's not there right now. Believe it or not, I've come a long ways from where I used to be on him. His improved play has changed my opinion on him. I think he could be a starting SG for a contender, but he would not be the 3rd option on one. Certainly not our #2 option. If he was a starting SG on a contender then we would probably have to need a star at PG. A 4th option is pretty much a solid role player on any contender. That's where I see him.
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