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Post#1901 » by Residual-Heat » Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:18 pm

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eyriq wrote:Doesn't pass the eye test. System player


He owns fraud Claxton!
This post doesn't pass the fact check.

Its just one game, but he definitely outplayed Claxton today. I have them both as very close.
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Post#1902 » by pepe1991 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:45 am

Lofton in G league had 52 points, 16 rebounds ,5 assists game. Goes to show you how little anything there really matters.
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Post#1903 » by thelead » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:52 am

We need a Sam Merrill on this team
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Post#1904 » by RookieStar » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:58 am

Uh oh... so it begins.

Raps scrub Jontay Porter under investigation for betting on himself.

Hownin the world???? There are bets where scrubs can score points or not?
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Post#1905 » by thelead » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:53 am

Hawks come back from a 30-pt deficit to beat the Celtics. Doesn't do anything for us but it was a fun 4th quarter.
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Post#1906 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:00 am

thelead wrote:Hawks come back from a 30-pt deficit to beat the Celtics. Doesn't do anything for us but it was a fun 4th quarter.




I think Boston Is going to get embarrassed again in the playoffs. Recently they blew a 20 point 4th quarter lead, now 30 pt lead blown.
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Post#1907 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:00 am

RookieStar wrote:Uh oh... so it begins.

Raps scrub Jontay Porter under investigation for betting on himself.

Hownin the world???? There are bets where scrubs can score points or not?




I don’t understand betting nor do I want to but the fact you can bet on random stuff like this is ridiculous. And did they not think they would get caught?
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Post#1908 » by RookieStar » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:38 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Uh oh... so it begins.

Raps scrub Jontay Porter under investigation for betting on himself.

Hownin the world???? There are bets where scrubs can score points or not?




I don’t understand betting nor do I want to but the fact you can bet on random stuff like this is ridiculous. And did they not think they would get caught?


Same... i dont do those bets at all as well but sheeeesh.. whqt an idiot
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Post#1909 » by jezzerinho » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:03 am

In a league where an active player can own a player agency that represents other guys he plays with and against..... what's one more conflict of interest?
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Optimus_Steel wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Uh oh... so it begins.

Raps scrub Jontay Porter under investigation for betting on himself.

Hownin the world???? There are bets where scrubs can score points or not?




I don’t understand betting nor do I want to but the fact you can bet on random stuff like this is ridiculous. And did they not think they would get caught?


In Europe, but especially in UK there was system of gambling on sport events where you could bet on everything.
You can bring own idea for bet and house gives you coefficient.
Let's say you ask for coefficient for first thing in basketball game to be half court 3 point shot, it would be something like 3000.
So if you bet on that coefficient (3000) and placc 100 euros or dollars your potential win is whooping 300000 (minus taxes).
Player's margin of points exist for decades. Normally it's 1,70 to 2 coefficient and something like Kawhi Leonard vs Pacers 24,5 points on both over and under bet. Basically you can double money if you win.

So if you are player you can easly scam system by betting on yourself because you are only "factor" that is involved in bet. Play yourself under, take almost no shots and your $4000 invested money turns into $7200
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Post#1911 » by pepe1991 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:46 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Uh oh... so it begins.

Raps scrub Jontay Porter under investigation for betting on himself.

Hownin the world???? There are bets where scrubs can score points or not?




I don’t understand betting nor do I want to but the fact you can bet on random stuff like this is ridiculous. And did they not think they would get caught?


In Europe, but especially in UK there was system of gambling on sport events where you could bet on everything.
You can bring own idea for bet and house gives you coefficient.
Let's say you ask for coefficient for first thing in basketball game to be half court 3 point shot, it would be something like 3000.
So if you bet on that coefficient (3000) and placc 100 euros or dollars your potential win is whooping 300000 (minus taxes).
Player's margin of points exist for decades. Normally it's 1,70 to 2 coefficient and something like Kawhi Leonard vs Pacers 24,5 points on both over and under bet. Basically you can double money if you win.

So if you are player you can easly scam system by betting on yourself because you are only "factor" that is involved in bet. Play yourself under, take almost no shots and your $4000 invested money turns into $7200



OT add ( since i'm on comp now, not on phone) i had friend in highschool that was betting that 2 out of 3 NBA games will go to OT.

Odds : 16x16x16. Without system (2 out of 3) coefficient would be 4096. Meaning , if he placed $20, and all games went to OT, he would won $80 K.

Probability of hitting that is near zero, you lost $20. And 500 idiots like you lost $20. And that's execlly how profit is being made.


Gambling in general is one of fastest booming problems that nobody talks about, and in sports betting will just continue to currupt sports, as all biggest sport teams are now sponsored by some sort of betting houses.
In 2021, it's estimated that in US alone, gambling & betting produced $53B ( billion!) now just imagine how many families are affected by addiction that is being promoted from every outlet.

Won't even go into casingo type gambling. Fasttrack for suicide watch.
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Post#1912 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:33 am

pepe1991 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:


I don’t understand betting nor do I want to but the fact you can bet on random stuff like this is ridiculous. And did they not think they would get caught?


In Europe, but especially in UK there was system of gambling on sport events where you could bet on everything.
You can bring own idea for bet and house gives you coefficient.
Let's say you ask for coefficient for first thing in basketball game to be half court 3 point shot, it would be something like 3000.
So if you bet on that coefficient (3000) and placc 100 euros or dollars your potential win is whooping 300000 (minus taxes).
Player's margin of points exist for decades. Normally it's 1,70 to 2 coefficient and something like Kawhi Leonard vs Pacers 24,5 points on both over and under bet. Basically you can double money if you win.

So if you are player you can easly scam system by betting on yourself because you are only "factor" that is involved in bet. Play yourself under, take almost no shots and your $4000 invested money turns into $7200



OT add ( since i'm on comp now, not on phone) i had friend in highschool that was betting that 2 out of 3 NBA games will go to OT.

Odds : 16x16x16. Without system (2 out of 3) coefficient would be 4096. Meaning , if he placed $20, and all games went to OT, he would won $80 K.

Probability of hitting that is near zero, you lost $20. And 500 idiots like you lost $20. And that's execlly how profit is being made.


Gambling in general is one of fastest booming problems that nobody talks about, and in sports betting will just continue to currupt sports, as all biggest sport teams are now sponsored by some sort of betting houses.
In 2021, it's estimated that in US alone, gambling & betting produced $53B ( billion!) now just imagine how many families are affected by addiction that is being promoted from every outlet.

Won't even go into casingo type gambling. Fasttrack for suicide watch.




Here in Florida they just legalized online betting and now we are being inundated with these ridiculous commercials with people having fun dancing on the beach due to being able to bet online. It’s ridiculous and cringe. Kinda reminds me of the silly commercials tobacco companies used to be allowed to do many years ago.
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Post#1913 » by basketballRob » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:02 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
In Europe, but especially in UK there was system of gambling on sport events where you could bet on everything.
You can bring own idea for bet and house gives you coefficient.
Let's say you ask for coefficient for first thing in basketball game to be half court 3 point shot, it would be something like 3000.
So if you bet on that coefficient (3000) and placc 100 euros or dollars your potential win is whooping 300000 (minus taxes).
Player's margin of points exist for decades. Normally it's 1,70 to 2 coefficient and something like Kawhi Leonard vs Pacers 24,5 points on both over and under bet. Basically you can double money if you win.

So if you are player you can easly scam system by betting on yourself because you are only "factor" that is involved in bet. Play yourself under, take almost no shots and your $4000 invested money turns into $7200



OT add ( since i'm on comp now, not on phone) i had friend in highschool that was betting that 2 out of 3 NBA games will go to OT.

Odds : 16x16x16. Without system (2 out of 3) coefficient would be 4096. Meaning , if he placed $20, and all games went to OT, he would won $80 K.

Probability of hitting that is near zero, you lost $20. And 500 idiots like you lost $20. And that's execlly how profit is being made.


Gambling in general is one of fastest booming problems that nobody talks about, and in sports betting will just continue to currupt sports, as all biggest sport teams are now sponsored by some sort of betting houses.
In 2021, it's estimated that in US alone, gambling & betting produced $53B ( billion!) now just imagine how many families are affected by addiction that is being promoted from every outlet.

Won't even go into casingo type gambling. Fasttrack for suicide watch.




Here in Florida they just legalized online betting and now we are being inundated with these ridiculous commercials with people having fun dancing on the beach due to being able to bet online. It’s ridiculous and cringe. Kinda reminds me of the silly commercials tobacco companies used to be allowed to do many years ago.
We can't bet with places like Fanduel. We have to go through the Indians betting site.

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Post#1914 » by pepe1991 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:48 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
In Europe, but especially in UK there was system of gambling on sport events where you could bet on everything.
You can bring own idea for bet and house gives you coefficient.
Let's say you ask for coefficient for first thing in basketball game to be half court 3 point shot, it would be something like 3000.
So if you bet on that coefficient (3000) and placc 100 euros or dollars your potential win is whooping 300000 (minus taxes).
Player's margin of points exist for decades. Normally it's 1,70 to 2 coefficient and something like Kawhi Leonard vs Pacers 24,5 points on both over and under bet. Basically you can double money if you win.

So if you are player you can easly scam system by betting on yourself because you are only "factor" that is involved in bet. Play yourself under, take almost no shots and your $4000 invested money turns into $7200



OT add ( since i'm on comp now, not on phone) i had friend in highschool that was betting that 2 out of 3 NBA games will go to OT.

Odds : 16x16x16. Without system (2 out of 3) coefficient would be 4096. Meaning , if he placed $20, and all games went to OT, he would won $80 K.

Probability of hitting that is near zero, you lost $20. And 500 idiots like you lost $20. And that's execlly how profit is being made.


Gambling in general is one of fastest booming problems that nobody talks about, and in sports betting will just continue to currupt sports, as all biggest sport teams are now sponsored by some sort of betting houses.
In 2021, it's estimated that in US alone, gambling & betting produced $53B ( billion!) now just imagine how many families are affected by addiction that is being promoted from every outlet.

Won't even go into casingo type gambling. Fasttrack for suicide watch.




Here in Florida they just legalized online betting and now we are being inundated with these ridiculous commercials with people having fun dancing on the beach due to being able to bet online. It’s ridiculous and cringe. Kinda reminds me of the silly commercials tobacco companies used to be allowed to do many years ago.


My country's goverment just gave suggestion to a bill where tv commercials of gambling promotion will be limited to hour before sport event & hour before and in any other case it should be illegal to promote gambling ( any sort) until 10 pm on TV & radio.
As direct result of latest promotion , new study shows that every 4th citizen of my country is gambling on regular bases, and half of teenagers ( legal age to gamble is 18 here) already gambled ,before turning 18 :crazy:

Right now it's just crazy, evey second commercial is betting & online casinos.

As somebody who went through hell of that i really hope you guys don't ever get hooked , nor ever start in first place.

Sport betting is like a pleague that spread around Europe among younger generation. They watch sports because they love it, they think they know everything and "boost" watching experience by placing money.
You can combine live events and events are yet to start. I watched people burning they monthly paychecks on soccer games that are in 85th min ( out of 90) . Hell, i know guy who losed damn house on sport betting.

I have one (ex) friend who had great job as menager in big hotel, but got hooked on sports betting and over like 2 months pissed off around €25 K euros, in mean time he got second baby, tried to get money off his boss by lying his younger daughter is sick, got money form company, pissed off that as well, and finally got cought by his wife and by his boss. Got fired. (ofc). Somehow they didn't divorce, now he is attending some sort of Chatolic sect where "big sinners" are praying together to save their souls. Whatever. Hopefully it helped him. But it's just crazy how easly it is to pretty much set your life on fire by just getting hooked.
All that happened when we were 28 years old. Imagine throwing your whole damn life away at that age just to place damn sport bet :banghead:


(and as somebody who used to work in finaces for communal company that included funerals, my God how many people end up killing themselfs due gambling debts...) :banghead:


In order to help somebody i even joined reddit and often share my experience and how to get off that crap.
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Post#1915 » by RookieStar » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:59 am

Im kinda glad my first "real" job was in a financial institution that i had to sign a clause where i cant even enter a casino much less place bets.

I have a feeling its shaped me up today where i dint even bet anymore... at least not with money. Dares or sig/avatar bets on the other hand.. lol

But yeah i hope our teams arent touching this. Imagine a bet where Suggs gets injured and leaves the game ans he gets a wind of it. How easy it is to dive or extra aggressive. No one can fault him of he leaves the game, he will pronably get a standing ovation.
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Post#1916 » by pepe1991 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:33 am

RookieStar wrote:Im kinda glad my first "real" job was in a financial institution that i had to sign a clause where i cant even enter a casino much less place bets.

I have a feeling its shaped me up today where i dint even bet anymore... at least not with money. Dares or sig/avatar bets on the other hand.. lol

But yeah i hope our teams arent touching this. Imagine a bet where Suggs gets injured and leaves the game ans he gets a wind of it. How easy it is to dive or extra aggressive. No one can fault him of he leaves the game, he will pronably get a standing ovation.


I think it's Norway system that is best. You can gamble. But you need to fill in register. And every bank, company as your potential employer will know about it.
So, out of shame ,most people don't gamble. And i think it's brilliant.

Right now banks all over a Europe will lower your credit potential when they run through your account and see you had gambling transactions.


As for nba, basketball in general, betting is a mess, you just have to follow a trace of money. You can gamble on everything, first free throw, amount of assists, blocks per game by player ,amount of 3 point attemps etc. There is guy on youtube who makes reels off gambling on Lebron & Victor shooting more than 3 threes a game.
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Post#1917 » by MagicMatic » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:46 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
thelead wrote:Hawks come back from a 30-pt deficit to beat the Celtics. Doesn't do anything for us but it was a fun 4th quarter.




I think Boston Is going to get embarrassed again in the playoffs. Recently they blew a 20 point 4th quarter lead, now 30 pt lead blown.


Hopefully.

I haven’t cared about Boston for years, but lately their fans have become absolutely insufferable on these boards when Orlando plays them. They believe the championship is theirs to lose this season and are definitely acting like it.
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Post#1918 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:00 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
thelead wrote:Hawks come back from a 30-pt deficit to beat the Celtics. Doesn't do anything for us but it was a fun 4th quarter.




I think Boston Is going to get embarrassed again in the playoffs. Recently they blew a 20 point 4th quarter lead, now 30 pt lead blown.


Hopefully.

I haven’t cared about Boston for years, but lately their fans have become absolutely insufferable on these boards when Orlando plays them. They believe the championship is theirs to lose this season and are definitely acting like it.


They are hopefully the last era of "well pay the lux tax to win" teams once that rule goes into full swing.
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Post#1919 » by Residual-Heat » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:15 pm



Isaac 1st. Suggs 3rd.

I still hate that we didnt sign Herb Jones this offseason BTW.
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Post#1920 » by Bensational » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:58 pm

I hope we get this win against GSW tonight. Not just for us and our standings, but because Houston is almost tied with GSW for that final play in spot. They’re turnaround is impressive as is, but to be on a 9-game win streak without Sengun and with Jalen Green unlocking his potential is just worthy of appreciation.

And yes, FVV deserves a lot of the credit for that turnaround.

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