Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread

Post #1941 » by **SOUL** » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:57 pm

I'm still mad Cleveland won those two miracle games. They'd be 40-27 right now if that didn't happen.

thelead · Post #1942 » by **thelead** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:01 am

RookieStar wrote:
Bensational wrote:Could be a big night for us in the standings. IND v CLE, MIA v PHI, NYK v GSW. Fingers crossed we can get closer to that 4 seed.

Its pick your poison really

I want us to face CLE in the 1st round... so how do we do that?

NYK keeps winning, CLE keeps losing at a decent clip. It would be possible, but not likely, that we could end up playing CLE with the HCA.

3- NYK
4- ORL
5- CLE

With Mitchell being out and NYK playing well, I do think it's likely that they overtake CLE. Leaving the more likely scenario of:

3- NYK
4- CLE
5- ORL

thelead · Post #1943 » by **thelead** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:01 am

SOUL wrote:I'm still mad Cleveland won those two miracle games. They'd be 40-27 right now if that didn't happen.

Haunts me every time I look at the standings

RookieStar · Post #1944 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:36 am

thelead wrote:
SOUL wrote:I'm still mad Cleveland won those two miracle games. They'd be 40-27 right now if that didn't happen.

Haunts me every time I look at the standings

It is what it is....

RookieStar · Post #1945 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:37 am

eyriq wrote:
Bensational wrote:Could be a big night for us in the standings. IND v CLE, MIA v PHI, NYK v GSW. Fingers crossed we can get closer to that 4 seed.
I'm rooting for GSW, IND, and PHI

You sure about PHI? Would have thought we want them as deep as a hole as possible BEFORE embiid gets back...

RookieStar · Post #1946 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:37 am

thelead wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Bensational wrote:Could be a big night for us in the standings. IND v CLE, MIA v PHI, NYK v GSW. Fingers crossed we can get closer to that 4 seed.

Its pick your poison really

I want us to face CLE in the 1st round... so how do we do that?

NYK keeps winning, CLE keeps losing at a decent clip. It would be possible, but not likely, that we could end up playing CLE with the HCA.

3- NYK
4- ORL
5- CLE

With Mitchell being out and NYK playing well, I do think it's likely that they overtake CLE. Leaving the more likely scenario of:

3- NYK
4- CLE
5- ORL

Im fine with either as long as its CLE that we face. Win or lose that series would be the making of us next season.

thelead · Post #1947 » by **thelead** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:45 am

RookieStar wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Bensational wrote:Could be a big night for us in the standings. IND v CLE, MIA v PHI, NYK v GSW. Fingers crossed we can get closer to that 4 seed.
I'm rooting for GSW, IND, and PHI

You sure about PHI? Would have thought we want them as deep as a hole as possible BEFORE embiid gets back...

I'm rooting for Philly too. It would be nice to win the division title as it would give us the tiebreaker over Cleveland... plus Embiid is still likely a ways away from coming back. And even if they rush him back, it may hurt the team defensively if he's not able to move well.

RookieStar · Post #1948 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:59 am

thelead wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
eyriq wrote:I'm rooting for GSW, IND, and PHI

You sure about PHI? Would have thought we want them as deep as a hole as possible BEFORE embiid gets back...

I'm rooting for Philly too. It would be nice to win the division title as it would give us the tiebreaker over Cleveland... plus Embiid is still likely a ways away from coming back. And even if they rush him back, it may hurt the team defensively if he's not able to move well.

Good point. Yeah as long as qe dont face them, im all for PHI to bloody the rest of the East. Hopefully MIA or NYK lol

Post #1949 » by **eyriq** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:30 am

ESPN BPI is interesting.

Says we're basically an average team with a BPI of 0.2. So against an average team on a neutral court it's a tossup.

Our offense is -2.4 points worse than an average offense, our defense is 2.6 points better than an average defense.

Offense -2.4
Defense 2.6
Net 0.2

Looking at offensive and defensive rating

Offense -2.1
Defense 3.9
Net 1.8

ESPN BPI penalizes us for various factors, does anyone have an idea what those are? I know it considers prior season performance. I'm sure our age factors in.

Post #1950 » by **eyriq** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:43 am

Another interesting thing to note is that we are 2 games above our Pythagorean win total.

There is some evidence we are overachieving due to intangibles, which tend to mean coaching, chemistry, culture, synergy, etc.

I think Mosley is going to win coach of the year.

Winning more than point differential would predict, winning more than Vegas and other predictive models would predict, winning against the spread.

JoshuaPotter · Post #1951 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:39 pm

I kinda want us to overachieve this year. See where these kids take it next season. Also I feel like continuing saying the word overachieve is a mix bag when at least statistically we have beat the teams we should have beaten and have a great home record thus far. These are things that at least contextually are starts towards being a good team.

Also some of those games against teams with a stronger lineup thru the Dec / Jan phase of the season we literally limped our way through that. Honestly felt like Moe had just a good a chance of being fired then he did extended. All in the past now.

BCS · Post #1952 » by **BCS** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:45 pm

eyriq wrote:Another interesting thing to note is that we are 2 games above our Pythagorean win total.

There is some evidence we are overachieving due to intangibles, which tend to mean coaching, chemistry, culture, synergy, etc.

I think Mosley is going to win coach of the year.

Winning more than point differential would predict, winning more than Vegas and other predictive models would predict, winning against the spread.

There is too much competition for coach of the year. OKC and MIN coach will likely end up ahead as they also overachieved, especially MIN.

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Post #1953 » by **eyriq** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:08 pm

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tooler · Post #1954 » by **tooler** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:16 pm

That's still the same three teams. If OKC or MIN finish 1st (or even 2nd behind Denver) in the West, then that's an easy shoe-in for their coach to win the award.

Post #1955 » by **eyriq** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:54 pm

tooler wrote:That's still the same three teams. If OKC or MIN finish 1st (or even 2nd behind Denver) in the West, then that's an easy shoe-in for their coach to win the award.

Sure, those should be the 3 overachievers. One has SGA the other has a bloated cap sheet. Coaching is more readily identified as a key driver for Orlando vs either team imo.

KillMonger · Post #1956 » by **KillMonger** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:21 pm

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jezzerinho · Post #1957 » by **jezzerinho** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:41 pm

eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Adjusted Net Rating is saying the same thing. 15th best team with the 9th best record.

I wouldn't be wildly optimistic about us getting out of any series vs anybody (tho it is possible). I just think it should be the FOs and team's final Masters Degree before properly heading out into the world next season. Learn as much as possible, but then actually apply it next year.

drsd · Post #1958 » by **drsd** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:02 pm

A defense-first team is always tough in the playoffs. I have great hope the Magic will win games in round-1. Will they win a series?
I am so excited we will test that question!

Post #1959 » by **Knightro** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:43 pm

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Boston posted a similar video to this a few weeks ago, but still a very cool edit.

Post #1960 » by **eyriq** » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:55 pm

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

Boston posted a similar video to this a few weeks ago, but still a very cool edit.

So smooth