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Should we call for the Front office to be fired if we don’t make a trade?

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Re: Make a trade or we call for your job! 

Post#101 » by Black and Blue » Thu Feb 8, 2024 9:55 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:We have 3 expiring contracts that we no longer can use as offers for trade. We have too many point guards that can’t shoot and/or run point. We have to many players in the bigs position that need minutes. We have guys on the bench that is playing behind expiring contracts and now have no way to get minutes. We can’t shoot, bottom in the league in 3 point %. and we are never heathy. But during the trade deadline we do nothing. I’m at a loss for words.


I'm hoping some of these players are just straight up cuts, like Okeke and Harris, but at this point I'm assuming they do nothing unless they see an opportunity to pick up a free player thrown in the trash by another team.
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Post#102 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 10:17 pm

Black and Blue wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:We have 3 expiring contracts that we no longer can use as offers for trade. We have too many point guards that can’t shoot and/or run point. We have to many players in the bigs position that need minutes. We have guys on the bench that is playing behind expiring contracts and now have no way to get minutes. We can’t shoot, bottom in the league in 3 point %. and we are never heathy. But during the trade deadline we do nothing. I’m at a loss for words.


I'm hoping some of these players are just straight up cuts, like Okeke and Harris, but at this point I'm assuming they do nothing unless they see an opportunity to pick up a free player thrown in the trash by another team.

We have no roster spots. We cannot pick up a player unless we have one.
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Re: Make a trade or we call for your job! 

Post#103 » by Black and Blue » Thu Feb 8, 2024 10:46 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
Black and Blue wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:We have 3 expiring contracts that we no longer can use as offers for trade. We have too many point guards that can’t shoot and/or run point. We have to many players in the bigs position that need minutes. We have guys on the bench that is playing behind expiring contracts and now have no way to get minutes. We can’t shoot, bottom in the league in 3 point %. and we are never heathy. But during the trade deadline we do nothing. I’m at a loss for words.


I'm hoping some of these players are just straight up cuts, like Okeke and Harris, but at this point I'm assuming they do nothing unless they see an opportunity to pick up a free player thrown in the trash by another team.

We have no roster spots. We cannot pick up a player unless we have one.


That’s my point. We won’t dump any of our players unless we want to pick up another player who was cut.
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Re: Make a trade or we call for your job! 

Post#104 » by msmoore66 » Thu Feb 8, 2024 11:50 pm

So. How are going about calling for their jobs?
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Post#105 » by CocoaFan » Thu Feb 8, 2024 11:58 pm

Should have waited on this post until after the deadline. I think the results would be reversed. I don't think anyone would believe with all our expiring contracts and 2nd round picks that Weltman would actually do nothing. Totally incompetent.
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Re: Make a trade or we call for your job! 

Post#106 » by byeganyo » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:30 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:We have 3 expiring contracts that we no longer can use as offers for trade. We have too many point guards that can’t shoot and/or run point. We have to many players in the bigs position that need minutes. We have guys on the bench that is playing behind expiring contracts and now have no way to get minutes. We can’t shoot, bottom in the league in 3 point %. and we are never heathy. But during the trade deadline we do nothing. I’m at a loss for words.


Accumulating resources and then wasting them... its extremely frustrating. We've already (semi) wasted one lottery pick, it seems this is only the beginning.
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Re: Make a trade or we call for your job! 

Post#107 » by fendilim » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:19 am

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Re: Make a trade or we call for your job! 

Post#108 » by drsd » Fri Feb 9, 2024 11:23 am

The below gets to a key point, Orlando is nearly certain to make the playins and is better than 50/50 for a direct playoff slot. Why mess up organic groth, when it all looks to be working well, and actually is a touch ahead of schedule.

It would be a shock for Orlando to rise tot he 5-seed, but if so, it would not be a shock to see Orlando in the second round of the playoffs. Why mess with that. The "family" roster is safe, as it is will provide knowable performances.


The Magic also have (sic) a lot working in their favor the rest of the season to make them believe this group can make a late-season push.
In addition to a top-5 defense in the league, the Magic are the healthiest they have been since the start of the year. That fact alone -- and how much better the team has played since Markelle Fultz, Wendell Carter and Jonathan Isaac returned to the lineup -- gives the team plenty of confidence it can accomplish its goals the rest of the season.

Orlando also has a home-heavy remaining schedule, with 19 of the team's remaining 31 games at the Kia Center. That includes an eight-game homestand in March. Orlando is 15-7 on its home floor, the fourth-best home record in the Eastern Conference.
On top of this, the Magic have the easiest remaining schedule in the league by opponent win percentage. They have a 13-6 record against opponents below .500.


OMD: Orlando Magic stuck between developing and winning now

There are plenty of opportunities to gain ground in the standings -- the Orlando Magic trail the seventh-seeded Miami Heat by 0.5 games and the sixth-seeded Indiana Pacers by 1.5 games. The fifth-seeded Philadelphia 76ers are only 3.5 games away.
Everything is within striking distance.


This tweet essentially reads as a scoop on management, but is probably just speculation:
Read on Twitter
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Post#109 » by jezzerinho » Fri Feb 9, 2024 12:10 pm

drsd wrote:The below gets to a key point, Orlando is nearly certain to make the playins and is better than 50/50 for a direct playoff slot. Why mess up organic groth, when it all looks to be working well, and actually is a touch ahead of schedule.

It would be a shock for Orlando to rise tot he 5-seed, but if so, it would not be a shock to see Orlando in the second round of the playoffs. Why mess with that. The "family" roster is safe, as it is will provide knowable performances.


The Magic also have (sic) a lot working in their favor the rest of the season to make them believe this group can make a late-season push.
In addition to a top-5 defense in the league, the Magic are the healthiest they have been since the start of the year. That fact alone -- and how much better the team has played since Markelle Fultz, Wendell Carter and Jonathan Isaac returned to the lineup -- gives the team plenty of confidence it can accomplish its goals the rest of the season.

Orlando also has a home-heavy remaining schedule, with 19 of the team's remaining 31 games at the Kia Center. That includes an eight-game homestand in March. Orlando is 15-7 on its home floor, the fourth-best home record in the Eastern Conference.
On top of this, the Magic have the easiest remaining schedule in the league by opponent win percentage. They have a 13-6 record against opponents below .500.


OMD: Orlando Magic stuck between developing and winning now

There are plenty of opportunities to gain ground in the standings -- the Orlando Magic trail the seventh-seeded Miami Heat by 0.5 games and the sixth-seeded Indiana Pacers by 1.5 games. The fifth-seeded Philadelphia 76ers are only 3.5 games away.
Everything is within striking distance.


This tweet essentially reads as a scoop on management, but is probably just speculation:
Read on Twitter


Oh please. Why would replacing a bad player with a good player be "messing up organic growth"?

Where is the organic growth by Okeke/Harris/Fultz/Houstan coming from? Answer, it isnt.

If Isaac never plays, how is he contributing to organic growth?

Do draft picks contribute to organic growth?
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Re: Make a trade or we call for your job! 

Post#110 » by Furinkazan » Fri Feb 9, 2024 12:44 pm

I already can tell you how that long term vision ends...with Paolo and Franz out of the town in several years
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Post#111 » by Fortune Teller » Fri Feb 9, 2024 12:52 pm

Welt’s pile of mediocre draft picks and acquisitions is organically decomposing. We don’t want to interfere with that natural process.
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Post#112 » by p0peye » Fri Feb 9, 2024 12:55 pm

drsd wrote:The below gets to a key point, Orlando is nearly certain to make the playins and is better than 50/50 for a direct playoff slot. Why mess up organic groth, when it all looks to be working well, and actually is a touch ahead of schedule.

It would be a shock for Orlando to rise tot he 5-seed, but if so, it would not be a shock to see Orlando in the second round of the playoffs. Why mess with that. The "family" roster is safe, as it is will provide knowable performances.


The Magic also have (sic) a lot working in their favor the rest of the season to make them believe this group can make a late-season push.
In addition to a top-5 defense in the league, the Magic are the healthiest they have been since the start of the year. That fact alone -- and how much better the team has played since Markelle Fultz, Wendell Carter and Jonathan Isaac returned to the lineup -- gives the team plenty of confidence it can accomplish its goals the rest of the season.

Orlando also has a home-heavy remaining schedule, with 19 of the team's remaining 31 games at the Kia Center. That includes an eight-game homestand in March. Orlando is 15-7 on its home floor, the fourth-best home record in the Eastern Conference.
On top of this, the Magic have the easiest remaining schedule in the league by opponent win percentage. They have a 13-6 record against opponents below .500.


OMD: Orlando Magic stuck between developing and winning now

There are plenty of opportunities to gain ground in the standings -- the Orlando Magic trail the seventh-seeded Miami Heat by 0.5 games and the sixth-seeded Indiana Pacers by 1.5 games. The fifth-seeded Philadelphia 76ers are only 3.5 games away.
Everything is within striking distance.


This tweet essentially reads as a scoop on management, but is probably just speculation:
Read on Twitter


This roster is built for playoff success.
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Post#113 » by Knightro » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:05 pm

p0peye wrote:This roster is built for playoff success.


It's not really at all as presently constructed. Not nearly enough scoring/shooting.
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Post#114 » by Skybox » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:15 pm

Job Fair at KIA Center...

Shooters, Vet Min PGs, All Invited open tryouts:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
Frank Nikilitititililinininlina
Ish Smith
Joe Harris
Killian Hayes

All invited. Seriously, Weltman...let's go full "Moneyball" around our core.
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Post#115 » by zaymon » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:15 pm

p0peye wrote:
drsd wrote:The below gets to a key point, Orlando is nearly certain to make the playins and is better than 50/50 for a direct playoff slot. Why mess up organic groth, when it all looks to be working well, and actually is a touch ahead of schedule.

It would be a shock for Orlando to rise tot he 5-seed, but if so, it would not be a shock to see Orlando in the second round of the playoffs. Why mess with that. The "family" roster is safe, as it is will provide knowable performances.


The Magic also have (sic) a lot working in their favor the rest of the season to make them believe this group can make a late-season push.
In addition to a top-5 defense in the league, the Magic are the healthiest they have been since the start of the year. That fact alone -- and how much better the team has played since Markelle Fultz, Wendell Carter and Jonathan Isaac returned to the lineup -- gives the team plenty of confidence it can accomplish its goals the rest of the season.

Orlando also has a home-heavy remaining schedule, with 19 of the team's remaining 31 games at the Kia Center. That includes an eight-game homestand in March. Orlando is 15-7 on its home floor, the fourth-best home record in the Eastern Conference.
On top of this, the Magic have the easiest remaining schedule in the league by opponent win percentage. They have a 13-6 record against opponents below .500.


OMD: Orlando Magic stuck between developing and winning now

There are plenty of opportunities to gain ground in the standings -- the Orlando Magic trail the seventh-seeded Miami Heat by 0.5 games and the sixth-seeded Indiana Pacers by 1.5 games. The fifth-seeded Philadelphia 76ers are only 3.5 games away.
Everything is within striking distance.


This tweet essentially reads as a scoop on management, but is probably just speculation:
Read on Twitter


This roster is built for playoff success.


To obvious of a bait, you need to lay low for a while :p
Maybe our young guys need to be beaten badly. Thats how you grow up. The longer i think about it, the more i like that idea.
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Post#116 » by drsd » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:15 pm

Knightro wrote:
p0peye wrote:This roster is built for playoff success.


It's not really at all as presently constructed. Not nearly enough scoring/shooting.


Worked out for the 2022/23 Heat though.
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Post#117 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:16 pm

I remember as a kid watching the Pistons with Isaiah Thomas and Joe Dumars develop. Each year, they got better. It was not some trade where they magically jumped to a champion. They worked hard just to make the playoffs then lost in first round. The next year they made it to 2nd round and lost. Next year they made it to quarter finals and lost to Boston. Next year they finally made it past Boston and lost to Lakers in Finals. Then, won a ship. There was no magical jump from 30 or 40 win team to a contender. They developed organically. They did make the trade of Dantley for Aguire, but that was more trading offense for defense. That process took a good 5 years mainly with the players they developed. And, it was incredible to witness. I think the Magic are on the right path. Once they reach a certain point where they feel they cannot develop further without making that move, I bet it will happen.
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Post#118 » by Skybox » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:16 pm

Skybox wrote:Job Fair at KIA Center...

Shooters, Vet Min PGs, All Invited open tryouts:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
Frank Nikilitititililinininlina
Ish Smith
Joe Harris
Killian Hayes

All invited. Seriously, Weltman...let's go full "Moneyball" around our core.


Hell...Jason Williams is local. Come on down, White Chocolate
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Post#119 » by drsd » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:16 pm

Skybox wrote:Job Fair at KIA Center...

Shooters, Vet Min PGs, All Invited open tryouts:

Danilo Gallinari
Spencer Dinwiddie
Frank Nikilitititililinininlina
Ish Smith
Joe Harris
Killian Hayes

All invited. Seriously, Weltman...let's go full "Moneyball" around our core.


You forgot to add don't-google-me to your list.
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Post#120 » by Skybox » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:18 pm

drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:
p0peye wrote:This roster is built for playoff success.


It's not really at all as presently constructed. Not nearly enough scoring/shooting.


Worked out for the 2022/23 Heat though.


The Heat shot 3's at an absurdly successful level through the playoffs last year. Maybe we get that lucky and non-shooters just "develop" overnight. I guess it's possible.

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