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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 61: Detroit Pistons (9-50) at Orlando Magic (34-26) - 6pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 61: Detroit Pistons (9-50) at Orlando Magic (34-26) - 6pm 

Post#281 » by SOUL » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:15 am

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context?


you know... :wink:

But in all seriousness, probably just calling for a Pistol action play.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 61: Detroit Pistons (9-50) at Orlando Magic (34-26) - 6pm 

Post#282 » by Bensational » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:17 am

Garland falling apart in the crunch for the Cavs, guy is struggling to keep possession of the ball let alone create offense for the team.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 61: Detroit Pistons (9-50) at Orlando Magic (34-26) - 6pm 

Post#283 » by Bensational » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:19 am

thelead wrote:
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context?


He wants more shooters?
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 61: Detroit Pistons (9-50) at Orlando Magic (34-26) - 6pm 

Post#284 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:21 am

Bensational wrote:Garland falling apart in the crunch for the Cavs, guy is struggling to keep possession of the ball let alone create offense for the team.


He's had a tough adjustment to Mitchell completely taking control of the team.

But... Mitchell probably isn't going to sign an extension, so the Cavs are in a weird spot.

Their best lineups seem to be Mitchell on the ball, Allen as the primary screen and roll guy and three shooters, but Garland's already gotten an extension and Mobley is due one this upcoming summer so it seems unlikely they can trade either one of them with Mitchell unwilling to commit.

I'd still make a big offer for Garland this summer regardless.
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Post#285 » by thelead » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:23 am

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Bensational wrote:Garland falling apart in the crunch for the Cavs, guy is struggling to keep possession of the ball let alone create offense for the team.


He's had a tough adjustment to Mitchell completely taking control of the team.

But... Mitchell probably isn't going to sign an extension, so the Cavs are in a weird spot.

Their best lineups seem to be Mitchell on the ball, Allen as the primary screen and roll guy and three shooters, but Garland's already gotten an extension and Mobley is due one this upcoming summer so it seems unlikely they can trade either one of them with Mitchell unwilling to commit.

I'd still make a big offer for Garland this summer regardless.

I'd rather try to get Mitchell to commit with his new buddy Paolo
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Post#286 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:28 am

I just cant get the fact that last season Mobley became #1 ina redraft for his draft class. This season he is getting bullied by almost every other bigs
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Post#287 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:29 am

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:Garland falling apart in the crunch for the Cavs, guy is struggling to keep possession of the ball let alone create offense for the team.


He's had a tough adjustment to Mitchell completely taking control of the team.

But... Mitchell probably isn't going to sign an extension, so the Cavs are in a weird spot.

Their best lineups seem to be Mitchell on the ball, Allen as the primary screen and roll guy and three shooters, but Garland's already gotten an extension and Mobley is due one this upcoming summer so it seems unlikely they can trade either one of them with Mitchell unwilling to commit.

I'd still make a big offer for Garland this summer regardless.

I'd rather try to get Mitchell to commit with his new buddy Paolo


DON seems to be the kind of guy that wants the bright lights. NY or Cali kind of dude.... based on what im hearing anyway...
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Post#288 » by thelead » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:40 am

RookieStar wrote:
thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:
He's had a tough adjustment to Mitchell completely taking control of the team.

But... Mitchell probably isn't going to sign an extension, so the Cavs are in a weird spot.

Their best lineups seem to be Mitchell on the ball, Allen as the primary screen and roll guy and three shooters, but Garland's already gotten an extension and Mobley is due one this upcoming summer so it seems unlikely they can trade either one of them with Mitchell unwilling to commit.

I'd still make a big offer for Garland this summer regardless.

I'd rather try to get Mitchell to commit with his new buddy Paolo


DON seems to be the kind of guy that wants the bright lights. NY or Cali kind of dude.... based on what im hearing anyway...

that is the talk... and if it's true, Cleveland will have no choice but to trade him to one of the handful of teams he approves of. Which means Garland wouldn't be on the table anyway.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 61: Detroit Pistons (9-50) at Orlando Magic (34-26) - 6pm 

Post#289 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:49 am

thelead wrote:that is the talk... and if it's true, Cleveland will have no choice but to trade him to one of the handful of teams he approves us. Which means Garland wouldn't be on the table anyway.


It's a really tricky scenario the Cavs are in.

They are *clearly* better with Mitchell as their lead guard. But Mitchell only has one year left on his contract and Garland has four years left on his.

If they flame out early in the playoffs again and Garland plays poorly, are they really going to deal Mitchell over Garland when he's unquestionably better than Garland?
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Post#290 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:51 am

We really need a standings tracker thread. This is so wild and fluid. We could solidify 4th place because of the NYK injuries as well as Embiid.

Yet just 1 loss game and we are fighting with MIA to be 7th or 8th in the playins.

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Post#291 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:53 am

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thelead wrote:that is the talk... and if it's true, Cleveland will have no choice but to trade him to one of the handful of teams he approves us. Which means Garland wouldn't be on the table anyway.


It's a really tricky scenario the Cavs are in.

They are *clearly* better with Mitchell as their lead guard. But Mitchell only has one year left on his contract and Garland has four years left on his.

If they flame out early in the playoffs again and Garland plays poorly, are they really going to deal Mitchell over Garland when he's unquestionably better than Garland?

If DON wont resign then yeah... get as much asset as they can to complement their roster.

They really think they can do one last throw of the dicr for the chip with DON before he bolts? Better be conservative I think..
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Post#292 » by thelead » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:10 am

Franz back in a 3 pt slump. Shooting 13% from deep over his last 5 games (2/15). Sigh...
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Post#293 » by Residual-Heat » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:18 am

thelead wrote:Franz back in a 3 pt slump. Shooting 13% from deep over his last 5 games (2/15). Sigh...

He needs to figure it out. This line up (Suggs-Harris-Franz-Paolo-WCJ) should've been 5 shooters that can knock down the 3 at an above average rate for their positions.
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Post#294 » by Bensational » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:26 am

Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:that is the talk... and if it's true, Cleveland will have no choice but to trade him to one of the handful of teams he approves us. Which means Garland wouldn't be on the table anyway.


It's a really tricky scenario the Cavs are in.

They are *clearly* better with Mitchell as their lead guard. But Mitchell only has one year left on his contract and Garland has four years left on his.

If they flame out early in the playoffs again and Garland plays poorly, are they really going to deal Mitchell over Garland when he's unquestionably better than Garland?


Mitchell is a tricky one himself. He has a history of being a regular season leader and post season flop, but with his level of ability and experience he’s worth gambling on if you can partner him with the right star.

Problem for him is that the bright lights destinations he’s rumoured to want to go to aren’t great fits for him. NYK won’t get the most out of him with a Mitchell/Brunson backcourt. BKN don’t have much to partner him with outside of Bridges. Clippers are stacked as is and I don’t see their veterans being happy about being traded away to Cleveland. Lakers don’t have any assets to offer for him.

Ultimately they got a nice short term boost from Mitchell, but their aggressive moves might end their run and flexibility early too.
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Post#295 » by richi_v25 » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:36 am

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After the missed call on Franz he told the ref Catch me outside :lol:
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Post#296 » by eyriq » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:01 am

Our defense abused them. Wow. Our turnovers were out of control though. Silly stuff there. Ingles continues to be a turnover machine.
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Post#297 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:09 am

thelead wrote:Franz back in a 3 pt slump. Shooting 13% from deep over his last 5 games (2/15). Sigh...


And 30-46 from inside the arc in that same time frame (.652).
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Post#298 » by RookieStar » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:45 am

Bensational wrote:
Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:that is the talk... and if it's true, Cleveland will have no choice but to trade him to one of the handful of teams he approves us. Which means Garland wouldn't be on the table anyway.


It's a really tricky scenario the Cavs are in.

They are *clearly* better with Mitchell as their lead guard. But Mitchell only has one year left on his contract and Garland has four years left on his.

If they flame out early in the playoffs again and Garland plays poorly, are they really going to deal Mitchell over Garland when he's unquestionably better than Garland?


Mitchell is a tricky one himself. He has a history of being a regular season leader and post season flop, but with his level of ability and experience he’s worth gambling on if you can partner him with the right star.

Problem for him is that the bright lights destinations he’s rumoured to want to go to aren’t great fits for him. NYK won’t get the most out of him with a Mitchell/Brunson backcourt. BKN don’t have much to partner him with outside of Bridges. Clippers are stacked as is and I don’t see their veterans being happy about being traded away to Cleveland. Lakers don’t have any assets to offer for him.

Ultimately they got a nice short term boost from Mitchell, but their aggressive moves might end their run and flexibility early too.


Theres 2 more Cali teams you havent mentioned. Lol
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Post#299 » by drsd » Mon Mar 4, 2024 5:54 am

RichCollab wrote:We need a 1st quarter knockout. Let’s not play with our food this game.


Well: Orlando did win all 4 quarters, even if the first half was a tiny bit tighter than we would like. Still: great to see Orlando put on the afterburners in the 3rd.


3ddman23 wrote:Huge day for the magic. If they win and the knicks and Philly lose. The magic jump to the 4th seed. Which would be wild to think about this late in the season.


How do both the Knicks and the Sixers win in games not favored? The NBA can be wild sometimes.
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Post#300 » by drsd » Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:00 am

Box score thoughts:

Orlando WWOONN the FG% battle (by 21 percentage pts!) and won the game.

The high scorer for Detroit starters had 11 points. Their combined scoring was 48 points. In contrasts the Magic starters had 80 points.

Orlando won the rebounding differential by 20 boards. :o

This was a perfect game on both ends of the floor except two stats: 3pt FG% and TOs. Orlando sucked at these.

But coach harped on the Magic last game about FT%, and this game the Magic shot great, and in volume.

In conclusion: the defense was on Ivey and Cunningham.

p.s. Thompson is just bad.

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