Hmmm, interesting. I didn't realize Suggs was a stud rookie defender.Knightro wrote:eyriq wrote:AB measuring this good on defense as a 6'7 rookie point guard is insane. Right?
It's encouraging. I wouldn't say it's insane.
Suggs was +2.2 Defensive EPM (27th in the NBA) as a rookie.
Black is at +1.1. Not quite the same level.
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eyriq wrote:Hmmm, interesting. I didn't realize Suggs was a stud rookie defender.
Apples and oranges because of the different positions, but Jonathan Isaac was +2.5 Defensive EPM (25th in the NBA) in his rookie year as well.
Black is a very good rookie defender. Suggs and Isaac were spectacular rookie defenders.
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Suggs was almost 8 months older than AB. It makes a slight difference at that age. Compare what AB does next year to Suggs because they'll be closer to the same age as Suggs in his rookie season.
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Darn, if only Black was six months older we'd be getting an amazing defender instead of a good defender. 
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8 months.SOUL wrote:Darn, if only Black was six months older we'd be getting an amazing defender instead of a good defender.
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SOUL wrote:Darn, if only Black was six months older we'd be getting an amazing defender instead of a good defender.
The life of a Magic fan. Always the bridesmaid.....
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Isaac's up to 4.5 defensive EPM. His overall EPM is 4.4 to lead the team.
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basketballRob wrote:Isaac's up to 4.5 defensive EPM. His overall EPM is 4.4 to lead the team.
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Him playing is pretty much the difference between this season and the 34 win team of last year. Suggs improvement is negated by Cole & Fultz being worse.
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I agree. We're a borderline play-in team without Isaac.GelbeWand09 wrote:basketballRob wrote:Isaac's up to 4.5 defensive EPM. His overall EPM is 4.4 to lead the team.
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Him playing is pretty much the difference between this season and the 34 win team of last year. Suggs improvement is negated by Cole & Fultz being worse.
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