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mattdelray1220 wrote:basketballRob wrote:Jrue and Suggs backcourt would be perfect. It would cost the max.
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Could you imagine if they made a move like that? That would signal to the league they think they could win the east NEXT YEAR! What I would do for Kelles, Garys, Ingles minutes to be Jrue and JI.
Skybox wrote:Who do you hope the FO goes hard at - either by trade, FA signing, or even draft? Name your #1 priority
To make it worthwhile, limit your choices to players that have some realistic reason to possibly be available. Tatum, Steph, Luka...aren't going anywhere...but you could make a case that Trae or Klay might, for example. IF you're prioritizing saving trade assets and/or young players that would likely be included, then UFA's or even monster offers to RFA's might be your direction. The beauty of this summer is that our FO...if they REALLY want someone...can make it happen-in a variety of ways.
Mine, at the moment is ...Dejounte Murray.
I think he's the one guy that is very likely available for a price that does NOT compromise our defense. In fact, he would escalate our on-ball savagery while also handling PG on-ball as needed and still having explosive offensive potential (I'd expect him to average 18ppg with 6+ assists-but he's also a guy that might put up 30 a few times, as opportunities and double-teams present. Other guys would come cheaper or just for cap space, but he checks a lot of boxes and really zero compromises (as opposed to some of the offensive aces we discuss). Our best trade assets are picks and cap space (maybe WCJ, Cole...), so it'd likely be a three-way as ATL probably isn't looking to take a deep dive.
Imagine adding that much offense AND defense in one shot...my follow up would be to try to grab a rim protector like Claxton...but, not until we have some added offense coming from where it belongs - the backcourt.
mattdelray1220 wrote:basketballRob wrote:Jrue and Suggs backcourt would be perfect. It would cost the max.
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Could you imagine if they made a move like that? That would signal to the league they think they could win the east NEXT YEAR! What I would do for Kelles, Garys, Ingles minutes to be Jrue and JI.
JoshuaPotter wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Jrue and Suggs backcourt would be perfect. It would cost the max.
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AaronB wrote:JF5 wrote:Skybox wrote:
do you like Trent that much or do you just feel he's the most "gettable"?
I wouldn't hate it, as long as there's not an overpay...A whole bunch of shooters got that $18m-ish per deal (like GTJ) and couldn't hold their value enough to justify it...Fournier, Kennard, Beasley, Hield (actually more), Gary Harris... GTJ is my preference among them...I'd be happy to add him on a better deal.
A lot of aspects of Trent make sense for the Magic.
1. Very elite 3 point shooting. Easily top 10 shooter in the league. Put that with Paolo/Franz who are sharing the floor with another guard who is on the cusp of being an elite shooter. You'll have spacing for DAYYYSSS. The Magic are already an elite paint offense. Just cant imagine what they would look like with adding Trent. Gets me absolutely hyped. Attached to the fact he can create his own offense if need be on 1on1 situations and he can get to the paint. My goodness, lol...
2. Him not taking the ball out of the cores hands. Specifically Paolo/Wagner and lesser extent Suggs as he's strictly a Shooter/Scorer.
3. His defense is good under the right coach/system. We saw him guard Wagner and effectively on the perimeter, and somewhat Paolo effectively in the post with his frame. He has active hands and can steal the ball. Also, under Nurse for a few seasons he looked good and reliable. With how strong the Magic defense is, he only has to be as effective as Gary Harris now, and I believe he can be better.
4. He doesn't have to play 30+ minutes a game. 25-30 seems to be the correct amount for a team that wants to have its bench come in and reek havoc and keep players fresh.
5. That contract like you mentioned. He's going to be CHEAP relative to other guys on the market. You get him on a 3-4 year deal with a team option, whilst being able to keep and even add to that elite bench/roster is a HUGE.
To me, watching Trent Jr... There's more to him that people aren't recognizing. He'd fit perfectly here.
I watched Trent a couple of times this week.
I thought he had a lot more athletic ability than he is showing now.
He looks slow and low.
He also looked like he had a really poor BBIQ.
The shot skill level is clearly high, but I think that the low BBIQ would get old really quickly.
Part of the problem could have been the talent that he was playing with and how he adapted to that talent.
Hard to evaluate BBIQ when a guy is passing to guys who should be playing in the G league.
ogmagicfan wrote:Malik Monk is the #1 player I want to go after this offseason.
Dynamic offensive player, can single handedly carry your offense through stretches, and has made huge leaps this season with his passing. He has the highest ast % on drives in the whole NBA, unreal.
He's pretty much Anfernee Simons, but not the worst guard defender in the NBA. Instead he's a mediocre defender but not bad enough that he would be something too hard to overcome like Simons. Both are super athletic.
thelead wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:Malik Monk is the #1 player I want to go after this offseason.
Dynamic offensive player, can single handedly carry your offense through stretches, and has made huge leaps this season with his passing. He has the highest ast % on drives in the whole NBA, unreal.
He's pretty much Anfernee Simons, but not the worst guard defender in the NBA. Instead he's a mediocre defender but not bad enough that he would be something too hard to overcome like Simons. Both are super athletic.
and we don't have to give up assets to get him. For that alone, I prefer Monk over Simons.
ogmagicfan wrote:thelead wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:Malik Monk is the #1 player I want to go after this offseason.
Dynamic offensive player, can single handedly carry your offense through stretches, and has made huge leaps this season with his passing. He has the highest ast % on drives in the whole NBA, unreal.
He's pretty much Anfernee Simons, but not the worst guard defender in the NBA. Instead he's a mediocre defender but not bad enough that he would be something too hard to overcome like Simons. Both are super athletic.
and we don't have to give up assets to get him. For that alone, I prefer Monk over Simons.
This too, which is an interesting convo in itself because I feel like Simons value isnt close to as high as has been pushed on our board because of his defensive shortcomings
Sucks because I'd love to have the hometown kid on our team, but his defensive shortcomings are way too much to overlook
thelead wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:thelead wrote:and we don't have to give up assets to get him. For that alone, I prefer Monk over Simons.
This too, which is an interesting convo in itself because I feel like Simons value isnt close to as high as has been pushed on our board because of his defensive shortcomings
Sucks because I'd love to have the hometown kid on our team, but his defensive shortcomings are way too much to overlook
I would take Simons for picks but we know Portland wouldn't do that. On another note, Holiday would be my #1 target. Monk is likely #2.
mattdelray1220 wrote:My #1 target would be Desmond Bane. He fits exactly what we need at the 2. He just got paid. The Grizz suck and are a mess. We can offer them picks and salary relief for him. I am sure they are high on him. Maybe it takes Black and 3 1sts. I would prob do that. Not sure the Magic would.
