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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#541 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:42 am

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It was absolutely ridiculous casue the ref waited until fox went backcourt to call the foul. Like someone said if fox would have never went back court he wouldn't called the foul.


Exactly. Good call but late AF and he doesn't blow the whistle if Fox does not fall back over half court.


The problem with this approach is that the rest of the game wasn’t officiated this way. Lol


The end of games are officiated differently. Especially this late in the season. Hey everyone needs to get prepared because the playoffs are going to be officiated differently also.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#542 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:42 am

I think we need to get back to playing Goga and AB in the starting lineup with Suggs, Paolo, and Franz

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#543 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:43 am

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ibraheim718 wrote:It was the foul on Fox by Suggs. That was a huge brain fart.


Late ass call and barely touched him. NBA is soft as **** and they should have just let him pass the ball instead of calling that **** 10 seconds later.


He was going to let them play but Fox was knocked off balance and stepped over. That's why he called it late.




Fox seems to make a lot of boneheaded plays and seems to get away with it, at least against us.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#544 » by davey_wavy » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:43 am

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PrimeThyme wrote:I just would have liked to have drawn something up going towards the basket to end it right there.


Impossible with Moselys “offense”


Suggs on a curl should have been the call
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#545 » by PrimeThyme » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:43 am

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He pushed him clearly knocked fox over and made him unsteady. They let it go to see if would be able to keep his balance but it clearly shifted him.

Just a bad play from Suggs there

It's just hard for me to accept them calling a love tap on suggs like that when Sabonis is bulldozing the backs of every player on our team after every missed shot.

They could have legit called it almost every possession including the missed Cole layup the one before.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#546 » by Knightro » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:43 am

Looking at the last play again and there are multiple failed screens.

1. Suggs is supposed to screen/drag Ellis away from top of the key and towards the corner and he slipped and fell like immediately. When Suggs hit the ground, Ellis immediately came off him and was basically able to double Paolo on the catch. Kudos to Ellis for breaking off his assignment when his man fell to the ground.

2. I'm not 100% for sure on this second one, but it looked like Isaac was supposed to come up and screen Fox which would have given Paolo a lane going to his left or at the very least an open 3PT attempt with Barnes playing behind JI on the original action, but Isaac appeared to be too late getting over and looked like he decided to call an audible and slip the screen instead.

But with only two seconds, there's not really enough time for Paolo to make a skip pass to Suggs or Isaac so he just had to kind of force an ugly one over Fox.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#547 » by shadrock » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:43 am

Howard Mass wrote:They call late fouls if they feel the contact leads to a player not making a basket or causes them to make a turnover.

It was really late but is what it is.


You have just described a refereeing system that is broken. How about call the game on its merits. What a novel concept.
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Post#548 » by fateis007 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:44 am

That call at the end as insanely bad.

Mosley in the final minute was terrible. (we needed a 2, and wtf was that?)

But we basically lost this game the same way we lost to Miami and Knicks last game. They zoned us all game and dared us to shoot, and we shot 35, 3's at 27%.
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Post#549 » by MagicMatic » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:44 am

Knightro wrote:Looking at the last play again and there are multiple failed screens.

1. Suggs is supposed to screen Ellis and he slipped and fell. When Suggs hit the ground, Ellis immediately came off him and was basically able to double Paolo on the catch.

2. I'm not 100% for sure on this second one, but it looked like Isaac was supposed to screen Fox which would have given Paolo a lane going to his left or at the very least an open 3PT attempt with Barnes playing behind JI, but Isaac appeared to be too late getting over and looked like he decided to call an audible and slip the screen instead.

But with only two seconds, there's not really enough time for Paolo to make a skip pass to Suggs or Isaac so he just had to kind of force an ugly one over Fox.


I mean it doesn’t really help the case that Paolo has tunnel vision on offense 90% of the time when the ball is in his hands
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#550 » by SOUL » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:44 am

Knightro wrote:Looking at the last play again and there are multiple failed screens.

1. Suggs is supposed to screen Ellis and he slipped and fell. When Suggs hit the ground, Ellis immediately came off him and was basically able to double Paolo on the catch.

2. I'm not 100% for sure on this second one, but it looked like Isaac was supposed to screen Fox which would have given Paolo a lane going to his left or at the very least an open 3PT attempt with Barnes playing behind JI, but Isaac appeared to be too late getting over and looked like he decided to call an audible and slip the screen instead.

But with only two seconds, there's not really enough time for Paolo to make a skip pass to Suggs or Isaac so he just had to kind of force an ugly one over Fox.


Don't use any logic.
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Post#551 » by davey_wavy » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:45 am

shadrock wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:They call late fouls if they feel the contact leads to a player not making a basket or causes them to make a turnover.

It was really late but is what it is.


You have just described a refereeing system that is broken. How about call the game on its merits. What a novel concept.


I mean this respectfully as one fan to another, but are you Conor Mcgregor?
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#552 » by MagicMatic » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:45 am

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Knightro wrote:Looking at the last play again and there are multiple failed screens.

1. Suggs is supposed to screen Ellis and he slipped and fell. When Suggs hit the ground, Ellis immediately came off him and was basically able to double Paolo on the catch.

2. I'm not 100% for sure on this second one, but it looked like Isaac was supposed to screen Fox which would have given Paolo a lane going to his left or at the very least an open 3PT attempt with Barnes playing behind JI, but Isaac appeared to be too late getting over and looked like he decided to call an audible and slip the screen instead.

But with only two seconds, there's not really enough time for Paolo to make a skip pass to Suggs or Isaac so he just had to kind of force an ugly one over Fox.


Don't use any logic.


Never Moselys fault for 1000 Alex.
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Post#553 » by dsg2021 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:46 am

- Wish Cole and Franz gathered the ball for a set play or something less rushed in the last offensive possession with 21 seconds left. But both of them were the ones who scored us to even be that close enough to begin with. We were also gambling a touch too much on defensive possessions in the 4th quarter. All signs of a younger team.

- Franz was the only starter who scored well enough, he had some jaw-droppingly smooth drives in the game. Wendell actually played some fantastic defense this game, I think his impact was underrated this game and him not scoring well is not something that should sink/swim you. That's Paolo and Suggs clearly having poor offensive games. I think Paolo has been giving up on a touch too many drives and post up dribble downs, if you got a skinny Keon Ellis on you, don't dribble him down and pass out, take the advantage fully instead.

- I was extremely frustrated with the referee'ing this game. It's one thing if they gave SAC more lee-room to be physical on Magic drives, but it was a step above as they blatantly missed at least 3-4 pushes and shoves on Magic players, and the kinds of pushes and shoves that displace the offensive Magic player or change their control of the dribble. In fact, one was so blatant that I now kinda blame the coaches and staff for not taking the bunny layup review call, keeping another review for Suggs' possession in the 4th.

- Yes, the starters sunk us. But what I think what sunk us even more was maybe the numerous times we gave SAC players three feet of room to shoot the ball. Maybe I am out of my depth, but me personally, I would have rather seen some drives and paint buckets hurting us before I allowed Magic players to be three feet away from these teams with sharpshooters. Fox I can understand because he's an All Star level of scoring thru defenses, but Keon Ellis and Keegan Murray FEASTED.

- On the TV at least, it seemed the home crowd was really into the game and giving the Magic energy. Loved seeing it, and it's baiting me to go to some games before the season's up, hah. Home crowd getting ready for Round 1 already!

- I don't want to be a dick anymore, so this is probably the last time I will ever say it period. 90% of this board would have cut JI in the summer or earlier in the season. Take it constructively for future situations.
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Post#554 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:46 am

It was late. Hmmm.. the ref probably shouldn't be allowed to make a call that late. Hmmm.. but Jalen doesn't touch him and o foul is called. Tough situation. I'd rather Suggs learn now even though it was a late call.n
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Post#555 » by CocoaFan » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:47 am

fendilim wrote:Its amazing how Franz has been bad this year. Even his drive attempts seems less.
He's really not been himself since the all-star game. He's not as aggressive. I think his 3 ball is really getting into his head.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#556 » by ChosenSavior » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:47 am

It's been a minute since I've posted. The Magic have been playing extremely well and despite the subpar 3 point shooting and leaving points on the free throw point line, we still had a chance to win this game.

Isaac was absolutely incredible tonight, shame he can't play a full set of minutes. Franz has got to get more arc on his jumper because his shots look flat every time he shoots it from deep. Paolo did not play well tonight which is a shame. Suggs was not good as well shooting the ball.

We'll bounce back. I really like how we've been playing as of late.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#557 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:47 am

davey_wavy wrote:Me as a youth basketball coach with 2 sec remaining: set a screen and curl to the basket so inbounder can hit you going to the basket for a quick 2, foul, or maybe if your lucky a and-1

Mosley, NBA head coach: throw it to Paolo at mid court and chuck a 3



That was probably not the play call, something broke down or they didn’t execute.
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Post#558 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:49 am

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fendilim wrote:Its amazing how Franz has been bad this year. Even his drive attempts seems less.
He's really not been himself since the all-star game. He's not as aggressive. I think his 3 ball is really getting into his head.
I think they tinkered with his release, trying to make it quicker.

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Post#559 » by ibraheim718 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:49 am

If the play at the end of the game was designed to be a catch and skip then the play stunk. With 2.1 on the clock you have time for 1 dribble and a shot. I'd prefer a catch and shoot. Down screen for Suggs and either a deep 3 or a lob to the screener.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 71: Sacramento Kings (40-29) at Orlando Magic (42-28) - 7pm 

Post#560 » by KillMonger » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:49 am

fateis007 wrote:That call at the end as insanely bad.

Mosley in the final minute was terrible. (we needed a 2, and wtf was that?)

But we basically lost this game the same way we lost to Miami and Knicks last game. They zoned us all game and dared us to shoot, and we shot 35, 3's at 27%.
Yeah, that's not going to change until we get guys in here that can shoot and our top guys improve from 3.....thats why while I'm happy with how the year went I'm not getting my hopes up in the playoffs.... A team that can't shoot outside of a couple of guys, can't hit free throws and turns the ball over like we do can never win a series.....we're leaving too much on the table and our margin of error is thin very thin....

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