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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm 

Post#701 » by RookieStar » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:34 am

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If we want to point at one thing it was the offensive boards by GSW.


Surprisingly we were fairly even with them on offensive boards. 12 to 10.

Second chance points however it feels like the gap was huge


It was the second chance points then.. but there was some awful possessions where perimeter players didn't box out and got beat for boards. Easy tactic employed by Kerr.. they were crashing hard from the perimeter.


Agreed with this. I stopped watching the game but still looked at box acores... every missed shots there was an offrnsive rebound for the score for them. Heart breaking really...
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm 

Post#702 » by MagicMatic » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:34 am

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SOUL wrote:Paolo terrible, WCJ terrible, Franz can't shoot.

In our two biggest games of the season, Suggs fouled Fox 40 feet from the basket and doesn't shoot the ball with the clock running down.


So many things I want to say to you right now but won’t because you have a shiny badge.


You might as well just say it :lol:

Big feelings tonight.


Nah. I’ve already been warned recently.

No need to point out people sucking Mosely all season on sub .500 teams while the offense looks like ass most nights against real competition.

Then he has questionable lineups and everyone just wants to point to guys on rookie contracts playing poorly as the justification. Yeah no ****. This team isn’t comprised of vets. It’s a bunch of 2-3 year guys that everyone is hoping to be consistent.

You should be looking more at players that know better and Weltman actually filling out a roster. Fultz shouldn’t be on the floor, there is literally no point. Carter doesn’t fit. This was obvious more than halfway through Paolo’s rookie season.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm 

Post#703 » by davey_wavy » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:36 am

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Surprisingly we were fairly even with them on offensive boards. 12 to 10.

Second chance points however it feels like the gap was huge


It was how they occurred. Moody getting it over Moe Wagner and another player, Black not boxing out, just silly stuff.
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Post#704 » by RookieStar » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:36 am

BTW... who is Dirks shooting coach? There was a show that he visited some gym by his shooting mentor in Germany and thats why he won against LBJs super team... that and listening to Hasslehofs music
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Post#705 » by thelead » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:37 am

I would be ready to throw a massive contract at IHart and then trade WCJ, AB, and 2 1st for Murray this summer. Yes, an overpay on both but IDGAF. This team, as currently constructed isn't going to get it done and we need more toughness on this roster.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm 

Post#706 » by 3ddman23 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:37 am

This wasn't lost in the 4th.... this was lost in the first quarter... it's a continued thing with this team. You can tell how a game is going to go very early on....
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Post#707 » by davey_wavy » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:38 am

Just clog the paint and you beat Orlando 10/10 times
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm 

Post#708 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:39 am

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ibraheim718 wrote:
The vets weren't even making the back breaking plays.. it was their scrubs. :lol: Beside Wiggins..




Their “scrubs” have a lot of which we lack experience.


Moody.. podskewski (sp) Payton.. davis.. those guys made huge plays down the stretch and Wiggins of course.



Moody and Payton have played some big games and when you are surrounded by vets with championship experience that permeates to the younger guys, they feed of that guile.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm 

Post#709 » by ChosenSavior » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:39 am

3ddman23 wrote:This wasn't lost in the 4th.... this was lost in the first quarter... it's a continued thing with this team. You can tell how a game is going to go very early on....


Yep. That 1st quarter did us in. We're not good enough offensively to come back from large deficits against half decent teams.
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Post#710 » by basketballRob » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:40 am

thelead wrote:Paolo, Franz, and Suggs need to play much better. Fultz won't be on the team next year, so whatever... but WCJ is HUGE a problem for us. There were rumors that he was being shopped. It was a mistake to not pull the trigger.
I have a feeling we'll have to see them get run off the court in the playoffs to make a change.

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Post#711 » by eyriq » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:40 am

Paolo (5-17), Franz (6-14), and Suggs (1-7) just didn't have it tonight. It's gonna happen, and it's going to be hard to survive.

Fultz (16 mins) and WCJ (19 mins) were unplayable.

JI with 24 mins is a positive development. We need a lot more.

Paolo, Franz, Suggs, Cole, and JI are who will determine wins or losses the rest of this season.
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Post#712 » by FFBlitzace » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:41 am

Games are always more complicated than one single thing, with all kinds of mistakes made across the many possessions that occur on each end. But holy crap, make free throws and this is a different game. Our declining FT% over the course of the season is maddening.
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Post#713 » by Message Boar » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:41 am

p0peye wrote:Paolo had a bad game, but there will be those nights. In my book, this is another Dunce Cap for front office.

To me, this one is squarely on our best players playing terribly.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 72: Golden State Warriors (37-34) at Orlando Magic (42-29) - 7pm 

Post#714 » by SOUL » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:41 am

MagicMatic wrote:Nah. I’ve already been warned recently.

No need to point out people sucking Mosely all season on sub .500 teams while the offense looks like ass most nights against real competition.

Then he has questionable lineups and everyone just wants to point to guys on rookie contracts playing poorly as the justification. Yeah no ****. This team isn’t comprised of vets. It’s a bunch of 2-3 year guys that everyone is hoping to be consistent.

You should be looking more at players that know better and Weltman actually filling out a roster. Fultz shouldn’t be on the floor, there is literally no point. Carter doesn’t fit. This was obvious more than halfway through Paolo’s rookie season.


Bro, the team is 11-0 since ASB with Gary Harris starting. Doesn't matter the competition because we've lost to **** teams the past few years. With him hurt, all these lineups look wonky again.

I can take your criticism of coaching more if you ever held any accountability on players at all on individual performances. If you do, I don't see it.

There's like a hivemind of posters that go "Anthony Black.. Jett Howard... Goga Bitadze... 9 game win streak... only lineup that work. Me want Green Goblins..." ... it's like talking to zombies sometimes which is why I get frustrated.

Fultz IS cooked. But let's say Fultz was COMPLETELY at fault for the bad start, as in he was directly responsible for every basket the other team had and every bad possession from us (which he wasn't).. we can STILL win with other guys. And we didn't.

The guys just didn't have it. Bad free throws, bad open shooting, bad play down the stretch.

Sometimes a lot of people just don't have it that particular night. It is what it is. I'm not someone who has to ALWAYS blame a particular player/coach/whoever after a loss, because it's always a mixed bag of reasons why something doesn't work.

I don't know if it's a personality trait thing or "agenda" or you just truly believe in heart of hearts that every loss or run is on one coach and on nobody else, but I just will never think like that. Never have, never will.
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Post#715 » by ChosenSavior » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:43 am

Coach has a bit of a problem on his hands which sucks seeing that it is this late in the season. What do you honestly do with Markelle Fultz? He has not played well enough to be a rotation player. His tenure on the team is his saving grace for playing time.

Crazy enough, the injuries to Gary and Caleb hurt a bit.
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Post#716 » by p0peye » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:47 am

Message Boar wrote:
p0peye wrote:Paolo had a bad game, but there will be those nights. In my book, this is another Dunce Cap for front office.

To me, this one is squarely on our best players playing terribly.


Sometimes it is not that simple. You take what defense gives you and sometimes they give you a corner 3 - best shot in basketball - to take away that drive to the hoop. But sometimes in that corner is your team mate that you watch daily struggling to hit that shot in empty gym. So you end up throwing a contested prayer hoping to get a foul.
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Post#717 » by FFBlitzace » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:47 am

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MagicMatic wrote:Nah. I’ve already been warned recently.

No need to point out people sucking Mosely all season on sub .500 teams while the offense looks like ass most nights against real competition.

Then he has questionable lineups and everyone just wants to point to guys on rookie contracts playing poorly as the justification. Yeah no ****. This team isn’t comprised of vets. It’s a bunch of 2-3 year guys that everyone is hoping to be consistent.

You should be looking more at players that know better and Weltman actually filling out a roster. Fultz shouldn’t be on the floor, there is literally no point. Carter doesn’t fit. This was obvious more than halfway through Paolo’s rookie season.


Bro, the team is 11-0 since ASB with Gary Harris starting. Doesn't matter the competition because we've lost to **** teams the past few years. With him hurt, all these lineups look wonky again.

I can take your criticism of coaching more if you ever held any accountability on players at all on individual performances. If you do, I don't see it.

There's like a hivemind of posters that go "Anthony Black.. Jett Howard... Goga Bitadze... 9 game win streak... only lineup that work. Me want Green Goblins..." ... it's like talking to zombies sometimes which is why I get frustrated.

Fultz IS cooked. But let's say Fultz was COMPLETELY at fault for the bad start, as in he was directly responsible for every basket the other team had and every bad possession from us (which he wasn't).. we can STILL win with other guys. And we didn't.

The guys just didn't have it. Bad free throws, bad open shooting, bad play down the stretch.

Sometimes a lot of people just don't have it that particular night. It is what it is. I'm not someone who has to ALWAYS blame a particular player/coach/whoever after a loss, because it's always a mixed bag of reasons why something doesn't work.

I don't know if it's a personality trait thing or "agenda" or you just truly believe in heart of hearts that every loss or run is on one coach and on nobody else, but I just will never think like that. Never have, never will.



It seems like any time we lose, there has to be this sweeping reevaluation of the entire organization from the owners, to the players, to the towel boys. Which is really silly and unnecessary. First of all, we're a team still on the way up, not down. Also, we know who we are and what we're going to struggle with. It's not breaking news that we have trouble scoring. I'd love to be able to s*** out a star caliber point guard, but for right now this is what we have.
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Post#718 » by Knightro » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:47 am

MagicMatic wrote:Nah. I’ve already been warned recently.

No need to point out people sucking Mosely all season on sub .500 teams while the offense looks like ass most nights against real competition.

Then he has questionable lineups and everyone just wants to point to guys on rookie contracts playing poorly as the justification. Yeah no ****. This team isn’t comprised of vets. It’s a bunch of 2-3 year guys that everyone is hoping to be consistent.

You should be looking more at players that know better and Weltman actually filling out a roster. Fultz shouldn’t be on the floor, there is literally no point. Carter doesn’t fit. This was obvious more than halfway through Paolo’s rookie season.


So does the roster suck or does Mosley suck?
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Post#719 » by eyriq » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:48 am

Fultz played 16 minutes, scored 4 points on 2-5 shooting with 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 turnover, 2 stocks and was -9

AB played 15 minutes, scored 6 points on 2-5 shooting with 1 rebound, 1 assists, 0 turnover, 0 stocks and was +9
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Post#720 » by basketballRob » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:49 am

eyriq wrote:Fultz played 16 minutes, scored 4 points on 2-5 shooting with 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 turnover and 2 stocks and was -9

AB played 15 minutes, scored 6 points on 2-5 shooting with 1 rebound, 1 assists, 0 turnover and 0 stocks and was +9
Goga likely would've had a positive net rating if he played.

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