2023-2024 Regular Season Game 80: Orlando Magic (46-33) at Milwaukee Bucks (48-31) - 8pm

[ChosenSavior]

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This is most definitely something. He shouldn't be in the rotation.

And his impact on Paolo is devastating

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The FG% jumps out right off the bat looking at that. Paolo's shot selection has not been good this month but the paint is so congested when you have Markelle and WCJ trying to set screens in the paint.

[basketballRob]

I think we have no chance at Philadelphia. 3 games in 4 nights all on the road. The last time we did that, we got blown out in NY.

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[eyriq]

Big picture: we have all the confirmation we need to support a decision to build around Paolo, Franz, and Suggs.

We have mounting evidence that WCJ, Fultz, and Harris are questionable fits.

Moe, Cole, JI, and Ingles are roleplayers that work

AB is a stud, and Jett is interesting.

[dsg2021]

Damn, we are playing among the worst of the season and now we might lose in the Play-In, which is what we expected in the summer before the season started. But again like I said last GT, we did see a really good Paolo, Franz, and team for much of the regular season. And Paolo in particular, too. The most important piece. We also expected a Play-In loss at 36-38 wins instead of a Play-In loss at 46-47 wins. Way, way better than we imagined. Still, if playoff success demands a first taste of defeat getting done and out of the way, we might have just delayed that by another 12 months in a sport that is not kind to age.

[Knightro]

Wait.. is my math wrong with the Indy stuff? Cause if they beat the Cavs and lose to Hawks, we still have a chance as well?

Yes.

The Magic have the tiebreaker on the Pacers via a 2-1 head-to-head record.

So they simply have to finish tied with Indiana.

[OnlyFranz22]

THERE WAS NO FRANZ TONIGHT lmao.

That’s fine. I thought I’d take a minus Franz against a minus Giannis….

Boy was I wrong.

So who let Portis go get 25 plus? You mean to tell me WCJ can’t guard him?

Pat Bev…. Suggs can’t guard him?

The team folded tonight. Plain and simple.

And that reflects the coaching staff

Man, your posts are just ridiculous

Wonder if Pot ever met Kettle….

We all fans of the same team on here, doesn't mean you can’t criticize them. Tonight and the last few weeks have been atrocious. Plain and simple.

[OnlyFranz22]

There seems to be a disconnect between the fans and expectations.

Magic are absolutely capable of beating tanking Charlotte, crap Portland, and eliminated Houston.
They dropped the ball whether you want to schedule floundering Milwaukee as a loss or not.

You cant simultaneously be high on this team and think "oh well we weren't supposed to be here anyway" after what you've seen this season from these guys assuming you've watched the games.

It makes perfect sense. They choked at the worst possible time when winning mattered and the team looks the worst it has ALL season down the stretch. They've gotten WORSE and haven't been trending upward, which is ideally what you'd like to see against poorer competition.

Not sure why a subsection of the posters make this out like its OK. It would have been fine at the beginning of the season. Not now when the pressure matters.

This x10000000

[byeganyo]

Bucks are guaranteed to finish at least 3rd now.
If i was them i'd make everyhing possible to lose the last game against us, which probably puts us 6th and them 3rd and pair us in the playoffs, while beating us send them at 2nd place with the most likely opponent Miami.

[DiplomaticMagic]

This team is **** garbage.

Maybe its good we will get swept in playoffs or lose in play-in. Than our FO can make a **** change.

[Rainwater]

There seems to be a disconnect between the fans and expectations.

Magic are absolutely capable of beating tanking Charlotte, crap Portland, and eliminated Houston.
They dropped the ball whether you want to schedule floundering Milwaukee as a loss or not.

You cant simultaneously be high on this team and think "oh well we weren't supposed to be here anyway" after what you've seen this season from these guys assuming you've watched the games.

It makes perfect sense. They choked at the worst possible time when winning mattered and the team looks the worst it has ALL season down the stretch. They've gotten WORSE and haven't been trending upward, which is ideally what you'd like to see against poorer competition.

Not sure why a subsection of the posters make this out like its OK. It would have been fine at the beginning of the season. Not now when the pressure matters.

I just disagree with this assessment. I am high on this team because I see the growth and progression of guys like Paolo, Franz, and Suggs and how they have produced way more than expected. They have an off season with a ton of Cap and assets to improve the team in keys areas. And also this is one of the best seasons the Magic have had in years. This rough patch they are having shouldn’t overshadow the great progress they have made this season. The feelings of fans seem to sway game to game but they refuse to see how successful this season has been as a whole.

While I understand the disappointment with the recent play but this is still a very young squad who are still learning how to win with a whole lot roster flaws. I really can’t judge them too harshly.

[SOUL]

Think we can convince Philly to punt the game against us so they can finish 7th and beat the Bucks with a gimpy Giannis, and the Heat can play the Celtics, and we'll take the Knicks or whoever? Gentleman's agreement?

[Rainwater]

Damn, we are playing among the worst of the season and now we might lose in the Play-In, which is what we expected in the summer before the season started. But again like I said last GT, we did see a really good Paolo, Franz, and team for much of the regular season. And Paolo in particular, too. The most important piece. We also expected a Play-In loss at 36-38 wins instead of a Play-In loss at 46-47 wins. Way, way better than we imagined. Still, if playoff success demands a first taste of defeat getting done and out of the way, we might have just delayed that by another 12 months in a sport that is not kind to age.

This is where I am at.

[ibraheim718]

So Cleveland has to beat Indy and the Magic have to beat Milwaukee.

[Rainwater]

That’s fine. I thought I’d take a minus Franz against a minus Giannis….

Boy was I wrong.

So who let Portis go get 25 plus? You mean to tell me WCJ can’t guard him?

Pat Bev…. Suggs can’t guard him?

The team folded tonight. Plain and simple.

And that reflects the coaching staff

Man, your posts are just ridiculous

Wonder if Pot ever met Kettle….

We all fans of the same team on here, doesn't mean you can’t criticize them. Tonight and the last few weeks have been atrocious. Plain and simple.

I just feel like you are being disingenuous with your post. The Bucks are a 2nd seed, title contenders, with ton of experience including a guy in Dame who was selected top 75. Even without Giannis this team is deadly. You are trying to equate this experienced bucks team to a rebuilding Orlando Magic team.

I could admit the Magic played poorly but I would give your post much more respect if you actually admitted that the Bucks are a good team. You make it seem like they are the wizards or something.

[OnlyFranz22]

Man, your posts are just ridiculous

Wonder if Pot ever met Kettle….

We all fans of the same team on here, doesn't mean you can’t criticize them. Tonight and the last few weeks have been atrocious. Plain and simple.

I just feel like you are being disingenuous with your post. The Bucks are a 2nd seed, title contenders, with ton of experience including a guy in Dame who selected top 75. Even without Giannis this team is deadly. You are trying to equate this experienced bucks team to a rebuilding Orlando Magic team.

I could admit the Magic played poorly but I would give your post much more respect if you actually admitted that the Bucks are a good team. You make it seem like they are the wizards or something.

Would you take the Bucks in a 7 game series minus Giannis and minus Franz?

Bucks would also be a 6 seed in the West. Title contender is a bit too far lol.

[Rainwater]

because we were the 3 seed with a week to go and lost to teams like Charlotte when we knew the opponents were going to get tougher. This team isn't serious.

They never were supposed to be in the third seed? lol. And Charlotte was the only bad loss.

Define bad - getting blown by Houston team that have nothing to play for is not a good loss. If we slip out of a play off place, maybe its not us overachieving, but our opponents underachieving/having bad luck with injuries.

I should be more clear. Houston was a bad loss for the Magic to avoid the play ins. But without Franz and Harris is it a game I expected the Magic to win? Not necessarily.

[shadrock]

Who on this Bucks team outside of Dame scares anybody?

No reason Portis should have 20 plus, and don’t get me started on Pat Bev. Lmaooo

Was a terrible coaching plan (for Dame) and the team didn’t show up.

The Bucks have been free falling and they smacked us right in the mouth….. WITHOUT Giannis

You say this as the Bucks sit in the second seed lol. The Bucks are freaking title contenders while the Magic are still rebuilding with many flaws.

THERE WAS NO GIANNIS TONIGHT lmao.

Doesnt matter. They are verterans, they know how to win. We are currently a team of young individuals who have no idea whats going on.

[thelead]

Caleb Houstan is going to find himself out of the league in 2 years if he doesn't improve in other areas. 37% from deep isn't getting it done with his other deficiencies.

[Rainwater]

Wonder if Pot ever met Kettle….

We all fans of the same team on here, doesn't mean you can’t criticize them. Tonight and the last few weeks have been atrocious. Plain and simple.

I just feel like you are being disingenuous with your post. The Bucks are a 2nd seed, title contenders, with ton of experience including a guy in Dame who selected top 75. Even without Giannis this team is deadly. You are trying to equate this experienced bucks team to a rebuilding Orlando Magic team.

I could admit the Magic played poorly but I would give your post much more respect if you actually admitted that the Bucks are a good team. You make it seem like they are the wizards or something.

Would you take the Bucks in a 7 game series minus Giannis and minus Franz?

Bucks would also be a 6 seed in the West. Title contender is a bit too far lol.

With out Harris and Franz, I would definitely take the Bucks in 7. The Magic struggle to score even with Franz and Harris, take them out good luck. And the defense suffers without them as well.

Even without Giannis and even Middleton, who hasn’t played well at all, the Bucks have a decent veteran supporting cast around Dame to win games. Beasley, Lopez, Portis, Bev, Crowder, and connaughton, are good vet players. The magic are out here playing guys like Houston, Black, Fultz, Ingles. These guys are either out of the league or just too young. This doesn’t even include the youth of Paolo, Suggs, Cole, and WCJ.


And just because the Bucks would be 6th in the West doesn’t mean that the Magic should be able to beat them, lol.

[RookieStar]

Guys... lets be real here.

You are all acting like we are a veteran contender used to being a top seed.

Lets face facts, we arent there yet. Especially not relying on our franchise player who is still 21 yrs old and in his 2md year and with his side kicks 22 yrs old and still on their 3rd years.

We are gonna get beat by these veteran PO teams.

Yes it is disappointing and demoralizing but it is what it is.