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2023-2024 Regular Season Game 81: Orlando Magic (46-34) at Philadelphia 76ers (45-35) - 7pm

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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 81: Orlando Magic (46-34) at Philadelphia 76ers (45-35) - 7pm 

Post#861 » by Knightro » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:07 am

CocoaFan wrote:After we win Sunday and are the 5th seed (after winning the tie breaker with Sixers and Pacers) everyone can take a deep breath and stop the Paolo sucks talk and get ready to take on the Cavs!


If the Magic win on Sunday, their most likely opponent would be Milwaukee in the 4/5.

But if the Pacers lose to the Hawks and the Sixers beat the Nets, the Sixers would be the 5 and the Magic would be the 6 against the Cavs.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 81: Orlando Magic (46-34) at Philadelphia 76ers (45-35) - 7pm 

Post#862 » by eyriq » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:08 am

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eyriq wrote:If the Bucks win they get the 2nd seed and a matchup against either the Heat or Magic. I don't think they tank.


Not necessarily.

They'd get the winner of the 7/8 play in game, but that could still be any combo of Philly, Miami, Orlando, Indiana depending on how Sunday's games play out.

I'm not sure if Milwaukee wants to see Miami anyway potentially without Giannis.


Sure, but Philly plays the Nets and the Heat play the Raptors and both will be heavy favorites. Very probable that if the Bucks win they get the winner of the play-in and lock-in homecourt advantage through the first two rounds. They aren't tanking that opportunity.
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Post#863 » by RookieStar » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:09 am

Wow... im getting a migraine following the different scenarios
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Post#864 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:11 am

thelead wrote:On a positive note, Jalen Suggs has a true shooting percentage of 64.3 in his last 30 games. That is amazing and the sample size is large. He's at 60.3% for the season with a likely all-defensive nod. What a hell of a turnaround for him.
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Post#865 » by thelead » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:13 am

RookieStar wrote:Wow... im getting a migraine following the different scenarios

I'm not even trying to follow it. Not worth the effort with so many variables. I have enough to remember as an adult :lol:
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Post#866 » by CocoaFan » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:14 am

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eyriq wrote:We are likely going to get the 5th seed and face the Bucks in the first round as the 4th seed if we beat the Bucks on Sunday? LMFAO


The Sixers will be the 5 seed if they beat the Nets. They control their own seeding destiny.

The Magic would be the 6 seed against the 3rd seeded Cavs in that scenario.

Now it's possible the Sixers might tank their game against the Nets intentionally to try and get the Cavs in the 3/6.

EDIT: The Sixers can't do that because Indiana would pass them with a win and shuffle them back into 7th.
If the Magic, Sixers and Pacers all win and are 47-35 the Magic win the tie breaker due to winning the division and will be the 5th seed.
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Post#867 » by ChosenSavior » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:15 am

F the scenarios tbh, just win on Sunday please!
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Post#868 » by eyriq » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:18 am

ChosenSavior wrote:F the scenarios tbh, just win on Sunday please!


If we win we are at worst the 6th seed.
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Post#869 » by thelead » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:23 am

Gary Harris has averaged 4.2 points, 2.2 rebounds, and 2.2 assists in 31 mpg over his last 5 games.

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Post#870 » by CocoaFan » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:24 am

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Knightro wrote:I think there's a chance the Bucks intentionally tank the game on Sunday to ensure the Magic in 4/5 since that's probably the best matchup for them.


I completely agree, I think they already started doing it by sitting Dame tonight.
Bucks can't fall past 3rd. They have the tie breaker with the Cavs and the Knicks. They already have 49 wins and that's the most the Cavs can get. Sorry if this is old news I'm just catching up on the thread.
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Post#871 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:25 am

thelead wrote:Gary Harris has averaged 4.2 points, 2.2 rebounds, and 2.2 assists in 31 mpg over his last 5 games.

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The best rotation is Gary off the bench, AB starting, and Fultz not playing.

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Post#872 » by Bensational » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:25 am

byeganyo wrote:
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thelead wrote:Yep. If we make the playoffs, cool but I honestly don't care if we wind up in the lotto.

The positives for the year (for me) are JI making it through the year healthy and Suggs' improvement. Everything else has been neutral or bad.


The Magic are still in the running for 5th seed and the season has become “neutral or bad”? Perspective guys. All we wanted from them to start the season was to make the playoffs and get experience. We’re on track to achieve that. That’s success.

I mean, Indiana has everything everyone has been asking for in a PG who can shoot, a high shooting team and they made a move for a veteran at the deadline - and they’re still tied with us. How doomed would we be feeling if we were them?


2-10 record in the last 12 games against .500 teams makes the current state a bit less rosy than the standings will make you believe.


It’s not like the rest of the East coast has been on fire post ASB, but for some reason our struggles are enough to question our entire identity while everyone else is presumed to be some kind of legit.

It’s just part of the growth of the team. This time last year we were hoping against odds of making the play-in. This time we’ve been hoping against odds for #2 (or HCA). We improved in the year between those events and got into a position where these games count more than they did the season before. That’s progress.
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Post#873 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:30 am

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Rainwater wrote:
Knightro wrote:I think there's a chance the Bucks intentionally tank the game on Sunday to ensure the Magic in 4/5 since that's probably the best matchup for them.


I completely agree, I think they already started doing it by sitting Dame tonight.
Bucks can't fall past 3rd. They have the tie breaker with the Cavs and the Knicks. They already have 49 wins and that's the most the Cavs can get. Sorry if this is old news I'm just catching up on the thread.
The Cavs and Milwaukee are 2-2, and the Cavs have a better division record, so they'd win the division.

If Milwaukee loses and NY wins, then NY would have a better record.

So if the Cavs and NY win and Milwaukee loses, they'd be 4th.

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Post#874 » by CocoaFan » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:33 am

Knightro wrote:
CocoaFan wrote:After we win Sunday and are the 5th seed (after winning the tie breaker with Sixers and Pacers) everyone can take a deep breath and stop the Paolo sucks talk and get ready to take on the Cavs!


If the Magic win on Sunday, their most likely opponent would be Milwaukee in the 4/5.

But if the Pacers lose to the Hawks and the Sixers beat the Nets, the Sixers would be the 5 and the Magic would be the 6 against the Cavs.
Milwaukee can't fall past 3rd. They own the tie breaker with the Cavs and the Knicks. They already have 49 wins and that's the most the Cavs can get to.
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Post#875 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:36 am

CocoaFan wrote:
Knightro wrote:
CocoaFan wrote:After we win Sunday and are the 5th seed (after winning the tie breaker with Sixers and Pacers) everyone can take a deep breath and stop the Paolo sucks talk and get ready to take on the Cavs!


If the Magic win on Sunday, their most likely opponent would be Milwaukee in the 4/5.

But if the Pacers lose to the Hawks and the Sixers beat the Nets, the Sixers would be the 5 and the Magic would be the 6 against the Cavs.
Milwaukee can't fall past 3rd. They own the tie breaker with the Cavs and the Knicks. They already have 49 wins and that's the most the Cavs can get to.
The Cavs have 48 wins with 1 game left. They're 2-2 with Milwaukee. The Cavs have an 11-5 division record and Milwaukee has a 10-7 record in the division. So a loss by Milwaukee and a win by the Cavs would give the Cavs the division win and the tiebreaker.

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Post#876 » by eyriq » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:38 am

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It’s not like the rest of the East coast has been on fire post ASB, but for some reason our struggles are enough to question our entire identity while everyone else is presumed to be some kind of legit.

It’s just part of the growth of the team. This time last year we were hoping against odds of making the play-in. This time we’ve been hoping against odds for #2 (or HCA). We improved in the year between those events and got into a position where these games count more than they did the season before. That’s progress.


Yeah, I don't get the over reactions. We are a bottom 10 offense and a top 5 defense who is great at home and against sub .500 teams and decent against above .500 teams. We have one of the most successful young cores of all time and are ahead of schedule. We've particularly been struggling against playoff teams with a few bad road losses against sub .500 teams mixed in.

The recent dip in defensive performance is almost certainly a slump and not a trend. We can be confident we'll get our top 5 defense back in time for the play-ins or playoffs.

This season's success will be driven by Paolo, Franz, Suggs, Cole, Isaac, and probably Moe. The core will gain invaluable experience.

We should not expect a first round victory but we should absolutely root for one and envision the scenario's where we win. We can definitely win a series, I'd expect its a 33% probability or something.

Long-term, our success will be driven primarily by the development of Paolo, Franz, Suggs, AB, and Jett, along with critical role player acquisitions. We know the role players that need to be shipped out, WCJ, Fultz, and Harris just don't seem to fit or have a long-term spot on this team.
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Post#877 » by Knightro » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:42 am

CocoaFan wrote:Milwaukee can't fall past 3rd. They own the tie breaker with the Cavs and the Knicks. They already have 49 wins and that's the most the Cavs can get to.


Not accurate. Bucks have the individual tiebreaker on the Knicks, but not the Cavs and would fall to 4th if they lose and the Cavs and Knicks both win.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 81: Orlando Magic (46-34) at Philadelphia 76ers (45-35) - 7pm 

Post#878 » by byeganyo » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:47 am

Bensational wrote:
byeganyo wrote:
Bensational wrote:
The Magic are still in the running for 5th seed and the season has become “neutral or bad”? Perspective guys. All we wanted from them to start the season was to make the playoffs and get experience. We’re on track to achieve that. That’s success.

I mean, Indiana has everything everyone has been asking for in a PG who can shoot, a high shooting team and they made a move for a veteran at the deadline - and they’re still tied with us. How doomed would we be feeling if we were them?


2-10 record in the last 12 games against .500 teams makes the current state a bit less rosy than the standings will make you believe.


It’s not like the rest of the East coast has been on fire post ASB, but for some reason our struggles are enough to question our entire identity while everyone else is presumed to be some kind of legit.

It’s just part of the growth of the team. This time last year we were hoping against odds of making the play-in. This time we’ve been hoping against odds for #2 (or HCA). We improved in the year between those events and got into a position where these games count more than they did the season before. That’s progress.


Why should we care about rest of the East?
Most of the teams had problems with injuries that we were lucky not to have - Philadelphia, Cleveland and Knicks in particular.

We have improved of course, this is obvious, but should this stop people complain or this is the moment to get the improvement trophy and call it a season? :D
Lets strive for more.
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Post#879 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:50 am

If NY and Milwaukee lose, then Milwaukee would be 3rd, and the Knicks 4th. Then I think the Bucks could face Philadelphia.

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Post#880 » by byeganyo » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:51 am

Paolo against 76ers in 3 games
18/57 fg 3/15 3pt

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