2023-2024 Regular Season Game 81: Orlando Magic (46-34) at Philadelphia 76ers (45-35) - 7pm

basketballRob · Post #881 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:53 am

The Pacers have the tiebreaker over Philadelphia. So, the worst-case scenario for Milwaukee losing Sunday is playing the Pacers in the 1st round.

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CocoaFan · Post #882 » by **CocoaFan** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:56 am

Knightro wrote:
CocoaFan wrote:Milwaukee can't fall past 3rd. They own the tie breaker with the Cavs and the Knicks. They already have 49 wins and that's the most the Cavs can get to.

Not accurate. Bucks have the individual tiebreaker on the Knicks, but not the Cavs and would fall to 4th if they lose and the Cavs and Knicks both win.

I'm going to have to file a complaint with Bleacher Report. Good catch

DiplomaticMagic · Post #883 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 3:59 am

At least they played with a pulse today. If we miss the playoffs, its not because of this game, its because of April.

thelead · Post #884 » by **thelead** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:03 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:At least they played with a pulse today. If we miss the playoffs, its not because of this game, its because of April.

Yeah, I’m not even mad about tonight. The defense still sucked but if Paolo shot the ball well, we might have actually won.

ogmagicfan · Post #885 » by **ogmagicfan** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:05 am

Our team seriously needs new faces, idc about the "family"

Our players carry bad body language way too often, and I get that they're young but even more reason to bring in some vets to set em straight on it

WCJ, Paolo, Franz, Cole body language all can be really **** especially when their shot isnt falling. It rubs off on each other.

Clearly Paolo & Franz aint going anywhere, hence why I've opened up to the idea of moving WCJ & Cole these past couple months for the right deal

Post #886 » by **Knightro** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:06 am

I really think Milwaukee may believe their best and perhaps only shot at getting out of the first round without Giannis is against Orlando.

I think they’d be underdogs against Indiana and Philadelphia both without Giannis.

Calf strains are tricky. You pretty much need 2-3 full weeks off to fully heal. I don’t know if Giannis is going to play much in Round 1.

ibraheim718 · Post #887 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:11 am

ogmagicfan wrote:Our team seriously needs new faces, idc about the "family"

Our players carry bad body language way too often, and I get that they're young but even more reason to bring in some vets to set em straight on it

WCJ, Paolo, Franz, Cole body language all can be really **** especially when their shot isnt falling. It rubs off on each other.

Clearly Paolo & Franz aint going anywhere, hence why I've opened up to the idea of moving WCJ & Cole these past couple months for the right deal

This is because of WCJ. Body language was good when he was injured.

The-Stallion70 · Post #888 » by **The-Stallion70** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:29 am

Welp **** this team, room on the Celtics bandwagon!!

JF5 · Post #889 » by **JF5** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:30 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Our team seriously needs new faces, idc about the "family"

Our players carry bad body language way too often, and I get that they're young but even more reason to bring in some vets to set em straight on it

WCJ, Paolo, Franz, Cole body language all can be really **** especially when their shot isnt falling. It rubs off on each other.

Clearly Paolo & Franz aint going anywhere, hence why I've opened up to the idea of moving WCJ & Cole these past couple months for the right deal

This is because of WCJ. Body language was good when he was injured.

Lmao, apparently when things aren't going right WCJ is the dude to blame. Even when he doesn't play.

I could've sworn Paolo if he struggles to shoot and fails at foul baiting will just yell at the refs. Same with Franz too...but that WCJ telepathy boy :lol:

pepe1991 · Post #890 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:39 am

Well people wanted Goga over Wendell and got it. Guy was targeted on pretty much every high pick&roll and Maxey, Oubre, Embiid were taking turns who will score around him next.

basketballRob · Post #891 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:41 am

pepe1991 wrote:Well people wanted Goga over Wendell and got it. Guy was targeted on pretty much every high pick&roll and Maxey, Oubre, Embiid were taking turns who will score around him next.

He looked good, considering he really hasn't played competitive basketball in months. If you haven't noticed, Moe never guards on the perimeter, and Wendell isn't chasing down Maxey either.

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KillMonger · Post #892 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:42 am

pepe1991 wrote:Well people wanted Goga over Wendell and got it. Guy was targeted on pretty much every high pick&roll and Maxey, Oubre, Embiid were taking turns who will score around him next.

sad thing is that was better than anything dell would've probably done

pepe1991 · Post #893 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:48 am

KillMonger wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Well people wanted Goga over Wendell and got it. Guy was targeted on pretty much every high pick&roll and Maxey, Oubre, Embiid were taking turns who will score around him next.

sad thing is that was better than anything dell would've probably done

Problem with him is that he is slowfooted with pretty slow reactions. Embiid shot over him multiple times before Goga even menaged to react. In open space, while trying to recover most bigs are pretty usless but Goga's inability to move feet fast enough are on full display in that situations. Maxey was too fast for even Isaac.

Even Mosley figured he can't really play him down the line. 14 min, plus minus -17, 2 turnovers, 2 fouls , 5 points, 2 rebounds.

KillMonger · Post #894 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:49 am

Gary Harris and Wendell are solidified for me as players that should not be brought back.....Markelle i'm not sure about, i wouldn't bring him back but this front office has a soft spot for him so we'll see....Ingles shouldn't be brought back either but he's mose boy so who knows....We need a guard next to suggs that is solid with the playmaking to lessen some of the burden on suggs/paolo/franz....Need a real Center that has some toughness and takes defense seriously.....Franz and Paolo have to do their part as well because if they were better shooters to be honest our issues wouldn't be as bad....they both have to lock in and get better this summer....Front office has no excuse now....before maybe they didn't have the cap space or flexibility.....this summer they got all that and then some, NO EXCUSE......especially no excuse to run it back either

Post #895 » by **SOUL** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:02 am

Just too many old ineffective guys playing bad late in the season, mixed with young, inexperienced guys also struggling.

ibraheim718 · Post #896 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:10 am

JF5 wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Our team seriously needs new faces, idc about the "family"

Our players carry bad body language way too often, and I get that they're young but even more reason to bring in some vets to set em straight on it

WCJ, Paolo, Franz, Cole body language all can be really **** especially when their shot isnt falling. It rubs off on each other.

Clearly Paolo & Franz aint going anywhere, hence why I've opened up to the idea of moving WCJ & Cole these past couple months for the right deal

This is because of WCJ. Body language was good when he was injured.

Lmao, apparently when things aren't going right WCJ is the dude to blame. Even when he doesn't play.

I could've sworn Paolo if he struggles to shoot and fails at foul baiting will just yell at the refs. Same with Franz too...but that WCJ telepathy boy

I didn't watch the game tonight. I'm speaking on watching him play for 5 minutes. His body language is terrible and the team didn't miss him when he was gone. He's also a bonehead.

JF5 · Post #897 » by **JF5** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:27 am

basketballRob wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Well people wanted Goga over Wendell and got it. Guy was targeted on pretty much every high pick&roll and Maxey, Oubre, Embiid were taking turns who will score around him next.
He looked good, considering he really hasn't played competitive basketball in months. If you haven't noticed, Moe never guards on the perimeter, and Wendell isn't chasing down Maxey either.

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If he was "good" he wouldn't have played less than 13 minutes. On top of that he was pulled after the first 6 minutes of the 3rd as the Sixers doubled the lead when he was on the floor not to be seen again. He was there to play defense and it was ineffective.

Then on the offensive end he just allowed Embiid to play off of him and clog the paint and being able to place a shadowy 2nd player to cut off drives to the basket.

There were back-to-back plays in the first half where Paolo was about to go to the rim but Embiid (along with the guy guarding Paolo) was right there to force Paolo to shoot a tough fade away shot.

The very next play again was very similar where Cole attempted to get to the rim and he was met by Embiid and the dude defending him causing Cole to take a tough fadeaway from close.

The irony before which makes me laugh is that people complained that Fultz clogged the paint. But the guy who would play off him would be a guard who couldn't put any real resistance to guys like Paolo and Franz.

Now you've got Goga's man who in this game who is a 7 foot, 270+ pound shot blocker who is one of the best defensive big men in the league being able to roam in the paint and make things extremely difficult for Paolo, Wagner and anyone else on the squad who is attempting to attack the rim (as that is this team's primary strength).

Leads by the Sixers was extended immensely every time he was on the court. I just dont understand what you saw that indicates that he played well and helped this team.

zaymon · Post #898 » by **zaymon** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:06 am

Realgm -Paolo is young, not ready to win, not a first option yet.
Also Realgm- why we didnt use assets to win with Paolo this year ?

Answer is simple. Paolo and Franz are not ready to win big this year and thats why Weltman didnt use assets. I think he went too far with this "family" thing, and made it too hard for Banchero and Wagner though. We could have evolved and now we need more of a revolution. Playing without a competent point guard is not the best way to learn the game imo.

ibraheim718 · Post #899 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:18 am

zaymon wrote:Realgm -Paolo is young, not ready to win, not a first option yet.
Also Realgm- why we didnt use assets to win with Paolo this year ?

Answer is simple. Paolo and Franz are not ready to win big this year and thats why Weltman didnt use assets. I think he went too far with this "family" thing, and made it too hard for Banchero and Wagner though. We could have evolved and now we need more of a revolution. Playing without a competent point guard is not the best way to learn the game imo.

You're right they aren't ready to win this year but there are some things those guys need to learn and I don't think outside of Mosley they have the right people there to show them instead of Joe Ingles or Marcella Fultz or even Gary "take the night off" Harris.

Also this will be the last time I say it Wagner and Ranchero need to take the summer off.. they owe it to the organization and the fans and they owe it to their own stamina and endurance. They should dedicate themselves to their craft this summer and rest and recharge.

They shouldn't be struggling like this to get into the playoffs. People will say "ah they're young" which they are but they have a ton of talent on that roster. You've got all-nba defenders and two 20ppg scorers. They get taken advantage of by older teams but they should've caught on a little bit by now.

Message Boar · Post #900 » by **Message Boar** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:47 am

Knightro wrote:
CocoaFan wrote:After we win Sunday and are the 5th seed (after winning the tie breaker with Sixers and Pacers) everyone can take a deep breath and stop the Paolo sucks talk and get ready to take on the Cavs!

If the Magic win on Sunday, their most likely opponent would be Milwaukee in the 4/5.

But if the Pacers lose to the Hawks and the Sixers beat the Nets, the Sixers would be the 5 and the Magic would be the 6 against the Cavs.

This season really is ridiculous in terms of how clustered the teams are and how many different outcomes the last day of the season has in terms of seeding. And the West is hardly any different.