Orlando a team interested in Odom? (ESPN)

[glennathan]

Force you got some nice ideas but I do not see Lakers taking back Cook under any circumstances. There is a reason we got him for Ariza.

[El_Magico]

I think this is all speculation because SVG coaches here. I'd rather keep Hedo over Odom, but if some way we can also get Farmar then I'm for it

First try and it worked!

Jordan Farmar
Lamar Odom

for

Hedo Turkoglu
Tony Battie
Keith Bogans

[Big A All Day]

So I tried alot of possibilities for a trade between Orlando and LA Lakers for a deal for Odom while leaving out Lewis, Nelson, Howard, Pietrus, and Turk. The only thing that I could get to work involved us giving up Turk.

Here is the trade that worked.

Orlando Magic gives: Keith Bogans, JJ Redick, Hedo Turkoglu, Rights to Fran Vazquez
Orlando Magic receive: Lamar Odom

LA Lakers give: Lamar Odom
LA Lakers receive: Keith Bogans, JJ Redick, Hedo Turkoglu, Rights to Fran Vazquez

Any thoughts on this?

Wow, now im not saying i dont like odem but we would have to give up more then hedo 2 get him then i dont see the point.. He is good but i dont think it would make us THAT much better, and giving up all other assets to get him is a no go 4 me... Also i could be wrong but isnt his contract like the money that hedo will want when he opts out? and where worrying about not signing hedo for fear of not going into the Lux Tax ? ? ?

[Last Guardian]

If it happened, I wouldn't hate it. Odom is 6'10 and a great rebounder, so playing PF wouldn't be too much of a stretch. He also offers ballhandling and passing, probably near the same level Hedo does. Where we lose out is he doesn't really spread the floor for Dwight or have as overall versatile offensive game that Hedo does.

[AdamTheGreek]

Odom is known for choking under pressure (disappearing). Combine that with his injury woes, NO THANK YOU.

[magicfanatic23]

I still think we would have to do a deal for Odom if it were on the table. I like Hedo a lot but Odom has been a much more proven player over his entire career. He has the nickname "The goods" for a reason. He can do it all. I mean yea he hasn't been as clutch and tough as some people would like but I think he would be perfect for our team. Like someone else said, he can match up with the PFs in the East real well like Bosh, Elton Brand, Rasheed, KG. I know Hedo is a great player but I think a lineup of:
Nelson/MP/Lewis/Odom/Dwight is better than Nelson/MP/Hedo/Lewis/Dwight.

Trust me I have said this all along that I think Rashard needs to go back to the small forward. If we are really going to get our money worth from him, that is where he needs to play. I do think he will be more aggressive this season but he could be a 22-24 ppg type scorer at the 3. Combine that with Odom at the 4 and I think that is a better combo than Hedo and Rashard.

It probably won't happen but I would love to see it happen.

[ProfX]

The thing is If we got the Odom that played under Stan at Miami.. I would be completely for it. I think Odom would fit well with the team. He is a few years older now and doesnt seem as hardy a player. However we have a thing called chemistry going and I worry that a major plucking of anyone from our starting lineup now could possibly be a serious drawback. I think Battie/Gortat/MP will help us out this year in the rebounding area and allow us to remain running small.

[Driguez]

I wouldn't be upset if we traded Hedo for Odom, guys we could actually loose him since nothing its written on stone plus Otis's track record about what he says and does... So no, i would not mind it one bit. Plus he really flourished under SVG.

[cmor42180]

odom to orlando isnt a bad idea, hes an expiring contract so if he doesnt work out at all he walks, we clear space and re-sign hedo, it only makes sense to do if we can keep what we give up low in value to us...jj/cook, etc.

[Bucs80]

No Odom isn't that good anyways

plus there wouldn't be a guy who would be able to create for himself.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

meh... It's too much like swapping players IMO, and too much for us to give up... Maybe I would feel different if salaries matched or it could just be a straight player for player trade some how, but it's not. I know they both have different intangibles, but you're swapping one SF for another to play at your PF position... Might as well just have Hedo and Rashard arm wrestle before a game. Whoever wins gets to start at PF.

[Devin 1L]

I wouldn't be upset if we traded Hedo for Odom, guys we could actually loose him since nothing its written on stone plus Otis's track record about what he says and does... So no, i would not mind it one bit. Plus he really flourished under SVG.

We could lose Odom for nothing, too.

Plus, whatever extra pieces we had to give up in a package with Hedo.

To me, this is a prime example of "grass is always greener". Odom just has more name recognition.

[EasternMagic]

I would do a Hedo for Odom trade no question... but it wont happen... but if it did, wouldnt it be funny to see Cook get sent back to LA in a trade package lol he would hate life

[Force9024]

I wouldn't be upset if we traded Hedo for Odom, guys we could actually loose him since nothing its written on stone plus Otis's track record about what he says and does... So no, i would not mind it one bit. Plus he really flourished under SVG.

We could lose Odom for nothing, too.

Plus, whatever extra pieces we had to give up in a package with Hedo.

To me, this is a prime example of "grass is always greener". Odom just has more name recognition.

Or more consistency...

Lamar Odom Career - 15.6ppg,8.9rpg,4.4apg,1bpg
Hedo Turkoglu Career - 11.7ppg,4.1rpg,2.5apg

Hedo had 1 breakthrough year.. Lamar Odoms been consistent in his production since his rookie year.. Now I'm not saying Hedo sucks. Hedo's going to flourish regardless, I'm just saying not only does he have a bigger name but he's known as a player who can score when needed, pass, and rebound.. Hedo's not much of a rebounder.. Either player will thrive under the system.. But if we made a trade such as this, Odom's been through SVG's camps, he knows his system and practices.. Unlikely trade, yes.. but it'd be the smartest if the Magic think Odoms abetter fit for the money they'd resign with..

[Devin 1L]

I wouldn't be upset if we traded Hedo for Odom, guys we could actually loose him since nothing its written on stone plus Otis's track record about what he says and does... So no, i would not mind it one bit. Plus he really flourished under SVG.

We could lose Odom for nothing, too.

Plus, whatever extra pieces we had to give up in a package with Hedo.

To me, this is a prime example of "grass is always greener". Odom just has more name recognition.

Or more consistency...

Lamar Odom Career - 15.6ppg,8.9rpg,4.4apg,1bpg
Hedo Turkoglu Career - 11.7ppg,4.1rpg,2.5apg

Hedo had 1 breakthrough year.. Lamar Odoms been consistent in his production since his rookie year.. Now I'm not saying Hedo sucks. Hedo's going to flourish regardless, I'm just saying not only does he have a bigger name but he's known as a player who can score when needed, pass, and rebound.. Hedo's not much of a rebounder.. Either player will thrive under the system.. But if we made a trade such as this, Odom's been through SVG's camps, he knows his system and practices.. Unlikely trade, yes.. but it'd be the smartest if the Magic think Odoms abetter fit for the money they'd resign with..

Oh, that's bogus and you know it.

Don't average in what Hedo did 8 years ago as a rookie like it has any bearing on what he's providing now.


18.1ppg 6apg 5.6rpg
19.7ppg 7.8apg 3rpg

Career averages... Who?

Steve Francis & Stephon Marbury.


If you want to do something like that (which I'm not even promoting, this goes beyond the boxscore stats --like stretching the defense with outside shooting), then do averages from the past 4 seasons, or their trend over the past 4 seasons, to get a better indication, not factoring in his 5.3ppg, etc., from his rookie season 8 years ago. lol

[Kent]

I'd still rather have Hedo.

If the game is on the line, I'd rather put the ball in Turk's hands over Odom's.

[lovehoops01]

honestly, i wouldn't...I LOVE Hedo, but logistically, Odom brings the toughness, and his passing and playmaking while maybe not as superior as Hedo's in some areas are very excellent for his size and he can score around the basket very well and rebound, not to mention hang with the bigger PF's, giving shard the green light to return to raping smaller SF's...

You really think Odom is tough? I don't think of him that way at all. It seems like the guy has missed at least 25 percent of his teams' games during his career. He always has something.,,hand, knee, ankle, shoulder. Then there are those games when he just loses his way and disappears. Plus, he's always getting ripped for disappearing in crunch time. That's one of the reasons the Lakers are looking to part ways with him. They rather would have Gasol and Bynum, and although I love his scoring, I don't really think of Gasol as a tough guy either. At least Hedo has shown he will go to the basket dependably when the Magic need a score.

For what it's worth, if ESPN didn't get this idea from the other media they read, maybe the Lakers are out there selling this idea. You just know that Phil Jackson would love to have Hedo in the triangle. They weren't ready to take the risk when the guy was a free agent, but now that he's proven himself, I'm sure they love him.

[MagicMadness]

I'd still rather have Hedo.

If the game is on the line, I'd rather put the ball in Turk's hands over Odom's.

I'm sort of leaning towards Odom, but I will agree with your second line.

[Force9024]

Oh, that's bogus and you know it.

Don't average in what Hedo did 8 years ago as a rookie like it has any bearing on what he's providing now.


18.1ppg 6apg 5.6rpg
19.7ppg 7.8apg 3rpg

Career averages... Who?

Steve Francis & Stephon Marbury.

If you want to do something like that (which I'm not even promoting, this goes beyond the boxscore stats --like stretching the defense with outside shooting), then do averages from the past 4 seasons, or their trend over the past 4 seasons, to get a better indication, not factoring in his 5.3ppg, etc., from his rookie season 8 years ago. lol

My point trying to get out there is backed up by what you just said. Hedo wasn't the Hedo we see now back than. Fact is Odom's put up those numbers year after year, INCLUDING when he was a rookie, up til he went to Miami, and even when he went to LA. Hedo came into the Hedo we know today LAST SEASON.. He averaged 14ppg,3rpg,2apg year 1 with us, 15ppg,4rpg,3apg year 2, 13ppg,4rpg,3apg year 3, 19.5ppg,5.7rpg,5apg this year. No I'm not saying he's a 1 hit wonder, my point, which was furthur proven, is yeah he's come into his own in Orlando, but can we expect the same production for this year and the 5 years we may sign Hedo to? Like I said I love Hedo, and he'll thrive with Dwight, but what do we lack shooting? No.. Rebounding? Yes.. Odom is a more physical player than Hedo and will get those rebounds..

Anyways Odom's been a consistent 15ppg,8rpg,4apg player since he came into the league, that's the point I was getting across in IF we trade Hedo, Odom would be an ideal guy to get, but I'm not saying lets go trade Hedo for Odom right now..

[lovehoops01]

Well, part of the reason Odom has put up such good number is that he has been the focus of the offense or at least the No. 2 guy pretty much his entire career. Hedo never had that opportunity until last year. He backed up Peja, played with Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili and then backed up Grant Hill. Hedo might have had this in him all along and just didn't have the opportunity.