HEADS UP- Magic May Be Keeping Marcin
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Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
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mhectorgato wrote:*waits for the "RDV is cheap" posters to recant. I won't be holding my breath.
He is cheap
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dsg2021 wrote:Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
Good luck to you. We are disappointed because we think Gortat would have been a nice upgrade to Dampier. Still not sure why Magic FO wants to pay over 10 mil a year for a backup center behind the best center in the league but they must have thier own plan. I bet Gortat is a bit disappointed as well when he would have had a starting postion on a very good team. Now he gets to watch Dwight Howard play some more.
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Realmavsman wrote:dsg2021 wrote:Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
Good luck to you. We are disappointed because we think Gortat would have been a nice upgrade to Dampier. Still not sure why Magic FO wants to pay over 10 mil a year for a backup center behind the best center in the league but they must have thier own plan. I bet Gortat is a bit disappointed as well when he would have had a starting postion on a very good team. Now he gets to watch Dwight Howard play some more.
Let me finish that last sentence for you:
"or gets traded to another team."
NEM wrote: However, I'm a fan of my team winning so, keep the winning coming. All the "tank" fans can take their crap to another board. We are here to win.
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Realmavsman wrote:dsg2021 wrote:Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
Good luck to you. We are disappointed because we think Gortat would have been a nice upgrade to Dampier. Still not sure why Magic FO wants to pay over 10 mil a year for a backup center behind the best center in the league but they must have thier own plan. I bet Gortat is a bit disappointed as well when he would have had a starting postion on a very good team. Now he gets to watch Dwight Howard play some more.
1. 5 years/34 million is not over 10 million a year. Not even close, actually.
2. No doubt Marcin would rather have started, but he is getting paid.
3. Him resigning was the best option for us.
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Realmavsman wrote:dsg2021 wrote:Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
Good luck to you. We are disappointed because we think Gortat would have been a nice upgrade to Dampier. Still not sure why Magic FO wants to pay over 10 mil a year for a backup center behind the best center in the league but they must have thier own plan. I bet Gortat is a bit disappointed as well when he would have had a starting postion on a very good team. Now he gets to watch Dwight Howard play some more.
Umm... do the math again, closer to $ 7 Mil per yr.
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Biggest winner out of all this: Rashard's knees.
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AdamTheGreek wrote:Biggest winner out of all this: Rashard's knees.
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Not if you count the luxury tax penalty.
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Realmavsman wrote:dsg2021 wrote:Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
Good luck to you. We are disappointed because we think Gortat would have been a nice upgrade to Dampier. Still not sure why Magic FO wants to pay over 10 mil a year for a backup center behind the best center in the league but they must have thier own plan. I bet Gortat is a bit disappointed as well when he would have had a starting postion on a very good team. Now he gets to watch Dwight Howard play some more.
He said either which way he was going to be happy.
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AdamTheGreek wrote:Biggest winner out of all this: Rashard's knees.
+1
That is a huge concern with him at the 4
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Soul wrote:Realmavsman wrote:dsg2021 wrote:Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
Good luck to you. We are disappointed because we think Gortat would have been a nice upgrade to Dampier. Still not sure why Magic FO wants to pay over 10 mil a year for a backup center behind the best center in the league but they must have thier own plan. I bet Gortat is a bit disappointed as well when he would have had a starting postion on a very good team. Now he gets to watch Dwight Howard play some more.
1. 5 years/34 million is not over 10 million a year. Not even close, actually.
2. No doubt Marcin would rather have started, but he is getting paid.
3. Him resigning was the best option for us.
I am sorry. Were you guys not aware of the luxury tax? Actually the figure is closer to 12 mil because the Magic are over the luxury tax mark so you pay double. So 5.8 for the 1st year is actually 11.6 mil.
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Realmavsman wrote:dsg2021 wrote:Sorry RealMavsfan, ZB, others. Its no offense to Mavs and other fans, but Magic need to get best here. And we werent blowing smoke, we made fire instead. Blame your FO for not realizing they needed to S/T or something else.
Good luck to you. We are disappointed because we think Gortat would have been a nice upgrade to Dampier. Still not sure why Magic FO wants to pay over 10 mil a year for a backup center behind the best center in the league but they must have thier own plan. I bet Gortat is a bit disappointed as well when he would have had a starting postion on a very good team. Now he gets to watch Dwight Howard play some more.
I feel ya, I think Magic will trade him this deadline, but if not, this summer Mavs can trade for him, and Magic know Gortat wants there, so Cash/picks or a guard like JJ might do the trick. I to feel bad for Gortats min.s
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Luxury tax is calculated at end of year payroll, not beginning. Thus, moving Gortat before the trade deadline will subsequently cost the incoming salary in said trade.
As of now, we have roughly $79M committed to 10 players (not counting Richardson's QO). We'll likely sign three minimum salary players and head into next season with an $82M payroll. If no moves are made and we stand pat at the deadline, we'll owe roughly $12M in luxury taxes. So, essentially, we're facing a $94M payroll.
I fully expect Gortat to be dealt, though. Whether that saves money or not is anyone's guess, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in OKC.
As of now, we have roughly $79M committed to 10 players (not counting Richardson's QO). We'll likely sign three minimum salary players and head into next season with an $82M payroll. If no moves are made and we stand pat at the deadline, we'll owe roughly $12M in luxury taxes. So, essentially, we're facing a $94M payroll.
I fully expect Gortat to be dealt, though. Whether that saves money or not is anyone's guess, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in OKC.
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Deezy, any guesses who we would target in a trade? Or even what position? We're kind of stacked...
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Deezy wrote:Luxury tax is calculated at end of year payroll, not beginning. Thus, moving Gortat before the trade deadline will subsequently cost the incoming salary in said trade.
As of now, we have roughly $79M committed to 10 players (not counting Richardson's QO). We'll likely sign three minimum salary players and head into next season with an $82M payroll. If no moves are made and we stand pat at the deadline, we'll owe roughly $12M in luxury taxes. So, essentially, we're facing a $94M payroll.
I fully expect Gortat to be dealt, though. Whether that saves money or not is anyone's guess, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in OKC.
We will really need Gortat in the playoffs, OKC has nobody who we need more than Gortat.
We can trade him to the Thunder for a TE (inmediate cap relief) next summer though, if we have Fran coming over.
If Fran comes only 2 years from now, we need Gortat for two more years..
He really is an important piece on our roster, and I really don't think we should trade him midseason.
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Confirmed now, so let's move over to the other thread.
11/18/2017 - I have officially disowned Nikola Vucevic and branded him a loser.
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