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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1301 » by 76ciology » Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:12 pm

blargh wrote:Can’t see how you consider Giannis a multi-skilled offensive player, and not Embiid or Tatum.

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In today's game, having multi-skilled offensive players is essential for running complex offenses against advanced defenses. Relying solely on a superstar and a group of shooters makes it easier for defenses to counter, as we witnessed last season with the Celtics. This vulnerability becomes even more apparent when our superstar isn't consistently reliable and requires support from his teammates' scoring abilities.

While not as extreme as our situation, the Celtics face a similar challenge with Tatum as their franchise player. Unlike Jokic, Giannis, or LeBron, Tatum doesn't possess all-time great caliber talent, highlighting the importance of surrounding him with complementary scoring talents to mask his limitations.

Furthermore, the prerequisites for effective defense, especially at the 3-4-5 positions, are also higher. Lengthy wings are necessary to recover and close out on defense against more skilled offensive players and complex offensive strategies.


Embiid should be included in the group of players with all-time great talent, like Steph, for instance. However, I failed to mention him in that group.

Both Embiid and Tatum need to be heavily supported by their teammates. Embiid due to his unreliability and inconsistency, and Tatum because he lacks all-time great caliber talent.
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1302 » by 76ciology » Sun Mar 3, 2024 4:04 am

Every team in NBA history to have the #1 offense while being a top 3 defense:

• ‘24 Celtics
• ‘17 Warriors
• ‘96 Bulls
• ‘74 Bucks
• ‘72 Lakers
• ‘71 Bucks
• ‘67 76ers

Statistically, the Celtics are ticking many boxes for winning a championship this year. I just hope my theory holds true that they won't perform as well if opponents can effectively switch their screen actions, limit their three-point opportunities, and force them into more one-on-one situations. It's crucial to have an all-time great player delivering top-tier performances surrounded by lengthy defenders and sharpshooters, enabling them to win more games than they would in a seven-game series.
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1303 » by Kobblehead » Sun Mar 3, 2024 2:10 pm

The Celtics were 2nd ranked offense and 3rd ranked defense last year and couldn't even beat a mediocre Heat team that were without Tyler Herro.

As great a team as they are, there's just something missing from them in the big moments. And Joe Mazzulla's coaching is an X factor. Still not sure if he's a good coach or not or just being carrier by a stacked roster. The playoffs is where we find that stuff out and Spo rekt him last year.
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Post#1304 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Mar 3, 2024 2:55 pm

Kobblehead wrote:The Celtics were 2nd ranked offense and 3rd ranked defense last year and couldn't even beat a mediocre Heat team that were without Tyler Herro.

As great a team as they are, there's just something missing from them in the big moments. And Joe Mazzulla's coaching is an X factor. Still not sure if he's a good coach or not or just being carrier by a stacked roster. The playoffs is where we find that stuff out and Spo rekt him last year.


Mazzulla is a bad coach imo. He was a big reason we even had a chance to beat them last year because it took him until game 6 to use a double big lineup.

I think things could be different for Boston this year if KP’s post game holds up in the playoffs. It finally gives them a means to mismatch hunt in the half court which is necessary for playoff success. Having your two best players play the same position (Tatum/Brown) doesn’t allow you to force advantageous switches. Now they finally have a 3rd option who’s a real threat & has size.

I still don’t think they have a switch they can flip like Denver tho. The regular season is basically one big scrimmage for Jokic.
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1305 » by GoSixersBro » Sun Mar 3, 2024 4:34 pm

76ciology wrote:The Milwaukee Bucks have held their opponents under 100 points in 4 straight games. And 6 of last 10

The Milwaukee Bucks have the 2nd best defensive rating in the NBA since Adrian Griffin was fired.

18 game sample size.


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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1306 » by Phila Tough » Sun Mar 3, 2024 11:44 pm

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76ciology wrote:The Milwaukee Bucks have held their opponents under 100 points in 4 straight games. And 6 of last 10

The Milwaukee Bucks have the 2nd best defensive rating in the NBA since Adrian Griffin was fired.

18 game sample size.


Shout out 76ciology for always keeping this thread active with good info.


2nd this. He has the perfect user name. bro is like a 76ers encyclopedia
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1307 » by 76ciology » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:06 am

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GoSixersBro wrote:
76ciology wrote:The Milwaukee Bucks have held their opponents under 100 points in 4 straight games. And 6 of last 10

The Milwaukee Bucks have the 2nd best defensive rating in the NBA since Adrian Griffin was fired.

18 game sample size.


Shout out 76ciology for always keeping this thread active with good info.


2nd this. He has the perfect user name. bro is like a 76ers encyclopedia


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Post#1308 » by phillynative » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:32 am

Shake Milton and Furkan Kormaz. Two players the sixers held on to for 30 years. One hasn't been signed since being waved and the other already on its 3rd team after being traded.
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Post#1309 » by 76ciology » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:45 am

phillynative wrote:Shake Milton and Furkan Kormaz. Two players the sixers held on to for 30 years. One hasn't been signed since being waved and the other already on its 3rd team after being traded.


We had to build our team with guards who can bomb threes and wouldn’t threaten the job security of Ben Simmons as our primary ball handler.
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Post#1310 » by 76ciology » Mon Mar 4, 2024 1:06 pm

Wemby is shooting 40.2% on 5.1 3PA/G over his last 20 games
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Post#1311 » by phillynative » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:20 pm

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phillynative wrote:Shake Milton and Furkan Kormaz. Two players the sixers held on to for 30 years. One hasn't been signed since being waved and the other already on its 3rd team after being traded.


We had to build our team with guards who can bomb threes and wouldn’t threaten the job security of Ben Simmons as our primary ball handler.


I get that but they just weren't good or consistent enough. We hold on to players who lack potential for some reason.
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Post#1312 » by 76ciology » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:36 pm

The best 5-man lineups in the NBA with at least 500 possessions played this season:

1. Dame - Beasley - Khris - Giannis - Brook (+16.0)
2. Jrue - White - Brown - Tatum - KP (+16.0)
3. Murray - KCP - MPJ - AG - Jokic (+14.9)
4. Harden - Mann - PG - Kawhi - Zu (+11.9)
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1313 » by GoSixersBro » Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:14 pm

76ciology wrote:The best 5-man lineups in the NBA with at least 500 possessions played this season:

1. Dame - Beasley - Khris - Giannis - Brook (+16.0)
2. Jrue - White - Brown - Tatum - KP (+16.0)
3. Murray - KCP - MPJ - AG - Jokic (+14.9)
4. Harden - Mann - PG - Kawhi - Zu (+11.9)


Not a bold prediction but these would be my picks for the conference finals. Boston over Denver in June.
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1314 » by M2J » Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:45 pm

Kobblehead wrote:The Celtics were 2nd ranked offense and 3rd ranked defense last year and couldn't even beat a mediocre Heat team that were without Tyler Herro.

As great a team as they are, there's just something missing from them in the big moments. And Joe Mazzulla's coaching is an X factor. Still not sure if he's a good coach or not or just being carrier by a stacked roster. The playoffs is where we find that stuff out and Spo rekt him last year.



Yeah, they're missing consistent superstar play from Tatum and Brown. Then, they don't have a system that necessarily helps them, just more of a 5 out style.... Which would work better with a true consistent superstar.

If they win the chip, it needs to be because of their defense. Which requires KP and others to stay healthy.....
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Post#1315 » by Kobblehead » Tue Mar 5, 2024 12:43 am

Banchero is one of only four players in the last 40 years to have career averages of 20+ PTS, 6+ REBS and 4+ ASTS at age 21-or-younger, joining Michael Jordan, LeBron James and Luka Doncic.


Future superstar.
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Post#1316 » by 76ciology » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:24 am

Bucks, without Giannis, about to beat Clippers
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Post#1317 » by M2J » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:59 am

76ciology wrote:Bucks, without Giannis, about to beat Clippers



Doc would be killing it right now without Joel
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1318 » by 76ciology » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:19 am

M2J wrote:
76ciology wrote:Bucks, without Giannis, about to beat Clippers



Doc would be killing it right now without Joel


Both Doc and Sixers are in a better place now
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Post#1319 » by Negrodamus » Tue Mar 5, 2024 4:52 pm

Read on Twitter


If Jokic retired today, he deserves a statue just as much, if not more, than some here. 2x MVP, Finals MVP, and won Denver their first championship? How is that any different than Giannis, who is at the same age? Jokic has arguably done it with less around him too.
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Post#1320 » by M2J » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:19 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Read on Twitter


If Jokic retired today, he deserves a statue just as much, if not more, than some here. 2x MVP, Finals MVP, and won Denver their first championship? How is that any different than Giannis, who is at the same age? Jokic has arguably done it with less around him too.



I'm sure Jokic is 6. The only validation I would give is that while they are same age, Giannis was an actual MVP before we knew Joker was even at that level. So, greatness longevity?

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