How far will Embiid drop?

[Tension]

Honestly, how do people discover whether you have a degenerative condition or not? Is there a way doctors can test for it?

[bballin76]

The question I have is that Embiid injured his foot with a stress fracture despite not playing competitive basketball since....March?

It's not like he's been going nonstop all season then straight to work outs. He had significant time off to heal his back.

To me, he's as risky as it gets right now. We have a decent understanding of a knee, but stress fractures of that bone after this much inactivity?

[PhilasFinest]

Honestly, how do people discover whether you have a degenerative condition or not? Is there a way doctors can test for it?

The damage of a Degenerative condition tends to deteriorate over time....so the type of wear/tear on that body part is usually a sign of whether or not the issue is.

[Tension]

So there's no way to know until it's too late? This navicular bone scare and the fact that he's only played ball for 4 years is starting to scare me and at first I thought this could've been a blessing in disguise to get him to drop to us. Such a damn shame

[dbodner]

So there's no way to know until it's too late? This navicular bone scare and the fact that he's only played ball for 4 years is starting to scare me and at first I thought this could've been a blessing in disguise to get him to drop to us. Such a damn shame

I mean, it's not like he was physically dormant before he started playing basketball. He played volleyball growing up, and navicular fractures tend to happen in that sport as well, since it's the same jumping/landing motion that causes the wear and tear that basketball does.

[76erStu]

the guy has had two major injuries now and he is only 19 years old. I don't care what sport(s) you are playing, that is an ominous sign. We have seen so many ultra talented big men have their careers ruined by injuries, some guys with the exact same injury. The evidence is clear...there are many 7 footers on the list of talented bigs who could not escape the injury bug after it first started (Oden, Bynum, Ming, McHale, Walton, ilgauskas, B. Lopez, the list goes on and on). Some were knees, some were feet, but the point is, one injury led to a pattern of repeated/chronic injury conditions. This guy has had two major injuries now, in areas that have the potential to flare up or repeat (a lower back injury and a foot injury are problematic for a 7 foot person, especially who will be playing professional basketball).

we got into this tank operation because we rolled the dice on an injury prone big named Andrew Bynum....that led to Hinkie...which led to the tank job. Now this is the biggest prize yet of the tank operation, the 3rd pick..and you want to risk it on another 7 footer--- who at 19 already has had two major injuries? I work in a hospital, i am not a doc but my job entails me talking to them everyday. I can tell you, in talking to one ortho doc today, he said a stress fracture to the navicular bone on a person that tall is the worst possible spot he could have suffered an injury. As other posters have pointed out (i think that Chad Ford article), he said this bone in particular is likely to experience more issues, especially with so much activity on it. He pointed out MJ had the same injury, and said there are always exceptions. But his opinion was gloomy.

Many on this board ranked Exum over Parker before and after the Embiid news. So lets just take Wiggins, Parker, or Exum and be happy. Worry about the fit with MCW later... We are in asset acquiring mode now...but the assets have to have worth. As talented as he is, a guy who is going to redshirt his entire rookie year, and then play full NBA seasons on a 7-0 foot body that has already had serious foot and back injuries is too risky for the third overall pick.

[76erStu]

sorry for double post

[The Sixer Fixer]

He will go 3rd overall after the Celtics trade into our spot.

#3 for #6, #17 and the rights our 2015 lottery protected pick back.

Still leaves us in position to grab whoever is left out of Exum, Vonleh or Smart at 6. With 17 we can either us pick or combine with 10 or Thad to move up.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/ ... interested

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[sixers23]

He will go 3rd overall after the Celtics trade into our spot.

#3 for #6, #17 and the rights our 2015 lottery protected pick back.

Still leaves us in position to grab whoever is left out of Exum, Vonleh or Smart at 6. With 17 we can either us pick or combine with 10 or Thad to move up.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/ ... interested

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Awful trade

[76ciology]

Posted this with the other thread.

Well if we get the 7th pick and select Embiid with our 3rd. There's a huge chance we end up with Smart.

76ers - Embiid
Magic - Exum (they are high on him)
Jazz - Vonleh or Mcdermott (rumored)
Celtics - somebody not Marcus Smart because they have Rondo (Randle or Gordon)
Lakers - Smart
Kings - McDermott?
Bobcats - Stauskas?
10th Randle or Gordon

Smart
Wroten
Thad
Gordon
Embiid
Noel

Fill the 2nd rounders with a bunch of shooters that are dime a dozen to go along with James Anderson and Hollis Thompson. LOL

That's a bunch of high motored, long and athletic players that I won't like to face for 48 minutes.

I think we go for Embiid. Let him rest for a season for we aren't in a hurry anyway. For the mean time the addition of Smart, Gordon and Noel will help us sell tickets next season.

[Embiid P]

He will go 3rd overall after the Celtics trade into our spot.

#3 for #6, #17 and the rights our 2015 lottery protected pick back.

Still leaves us in position to grab whoever is left out of Exum, Vonleh or Smart at 6. With 17 we can either us pick or combine with 10 or Thad to move up.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/ ... interested

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If we trade with the Celtics to move down to #6, instead of #17 and our own pick which we are likely to keep anyway next year, we should demand at least one if not more of the Nets future picks which they own since the Nets are likely to suck in the next 1-2 years. This trade as it stands is horrible for us.

[76ciology]

Draft Embiid?

While Joel Embiid and Yao Ming share the same injury, don't expect the Kansas prospect to suffer a similar career path, writes Dr. Mark Adickes.

Mark also went on ESPN Sportscenter televised show and said he expects Joel Embiid to make a full recovery and it will not be like Yao Ming career ending situation.

Dr. Mark Adickes was the Rockets team doctor at the time of Yao Ming and his foot injuries.

[Don]

I don't think they do this again- wait a 3rd season in a row for a big to sit out and heal. I don't see it happening. 1 think I haven't seen anyone mention in the list of big-men with career ending foot injuries: Todd MacCullough. In 2002 or so, he was supposed to be the guy down low to help AI with the scoring. Plantar fasciitis I believe it was? Bad went to worse and before long, he was calling games in the booth. Crazy about basketball big men and feet issues. Never really heard of this much back in the 70's and 80's it seemed, or maybe it's just more hyped and talked about today. Then again, Wilt and Shaq were among the heaviest of big men of their times, and their foot bones were fine.. who konws why?

[Aussiepiston1]

He will go 3rd overall after the Celtics trade into our spot.

#3 for #6, #17 and the rights our 2015 lottery protected pick back.

Still leaves us in position to grab whoever is left out of Exum, Vonleh or Smart at 6. With 17 we can either us pick or combine with 10 or Thad to move up.

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/ ... interested

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I'd do it since I love Gordon and think he would still be available there and either Saric or Randle would be available at 10 then I'd grab Lavine, James Young or PJ Hairston at 17. Most people on here would hate it but I'm a glass half full kind of guy and believe Gordon could end up being better than Parker and Wiggins eventually.
MCW
P.J Hairston
Gordon
Randle/Saric
Noel

[SJSF]

Every pick in this draft is a risk. There are no sure fire definites in this draft. There is only speculation . Kids today play minimally in college. 1year and done. 30 games of star players playing maybe 10 meaningful games. There are even players like Exum who people haven't even seen play that are going at the top of the draft. Lol. Probably the only player that we know a lot about is McBuckets. He played 4years.

So this whole risk thing about a player like Embiid is no different then drafting Wiggins. Wiggins could wind up being a wing defender that can't shoot well enough to play SG and not strong enough to play SF. He is a player that is far from a finished product. And a risk to select at 1.

[Kobblehead]

Every pick in this draft is a risk. There are no sure fire definites in this draft. There is only speculation . Kids today play minimally in college. 1year and done. 30 games of star players playing maybe 10 meaningful games. There are even players like Exum who people haven't even seen play that are going at the top of the draft. Lol. Probably the only player that we know a lot about is McBuckets. He played 4years.

So this whole risk thing about a player like Embiid is no different then drafting Wiggins. Wiggins could wind up being a wing defender that can't shoot well enough to play SG and not strong enough to play SF. He is a player that is far from a finished product. And a risk to select at 1.

Trading up to #1 for Wiggins is so popular around here for the sole fact that it will quench a thirst. The perception out there is that Wiggins is likely to develop into a star. I do not share that perception.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Every pick in this draft is a risk. There are no sure fire definites in this draft. There is only speculation . Kids today play minimally in college. 1year and done. 30 games of star players playing maybe 10 meaningful games. There are even players like Exum who people haven't even seen play that are going at the top of the draft. Lol. Probably the only player that we know a lot about is McBuckets. He played 4years.

So this whole risk thing about a player like Embiid is no different then drafting Wiggins. Wiggins could wind up being a wing defender that can't shoot well enough to play SG and not strong enough to play SF. He is a player that is far from a finished product. And a risk to select at 1.

It's not worth the lone talent on our team (MCW) and our 10th pick just to move up to #1. Let Cleveland take Wiggins. I'm high on Wiggins, but not high enough to do that.

[SJSF]

Just sit at 3, select the best prospect. I think Embiid has the most upside and the highest ceiling. This is who we select.

But the biggest thing that isn't being talked about is that in the summer of 2015 we will have 4 young lottery picks, maybe 5. And 40m in cap room. That is something to be excited about. That is when the Sixers will make their biggest jump. 2015-2016 season should be when we go for the division.

I see Thad being traded and or opting out before then. And the only contracts being lottery picks selected or ones traded for.

[ET Da Gawd]

If embiid goes to boston and owns for the next decade, I'm laughing my ass off...all that rebuilding is gonna be stopped because we still won't be able to get past BOS.