The Sixerfan1976 Off-Season Thread (Update: Page 61)
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Nocioni had one bad year...very little risk with that addition. Same with Hawes...little risk with a skilled 22 year old 7 footer...all for SAMMY?? Good deal...
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Hey SF,
Whats the word on Beasley-Kapono?
Whats the word on Beasley-Kapono?
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He already answered that on the thread with that as the topic. He says FO's not interested in Beasley.
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Well, here we have a team with strong perimeter defenders at the 1, 2, & 3 & maybe Collins likes that. We also have weak defenders at the 4 & 5 & he won't like that. How does this work? There will be so many easy baskets inside & second chances that it is going to negate the good defense that we see from the perimeter guys. I can't say it is the opposite of the past few years because I thought the team was weak defensively on the perimeter as well as inside, though we at least had Sam as a shot blocker as a last line of defense. I am in favor of building a defensive styled team but not one of the bigs is a good man defender & the only weak side shot blocker is Brand who can't jump. This could be ugly & I don't see how the pieces to fix the problem can be obtained.
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Chicago wants Iguodala from us and has offered Deng, Taj Gibson and a conditional pick.
Sounded like we would send Iguodala and maybe Kapono or Green depending on what the pick was.
As of now, we continue to maintain that we will not be moving Iguodala.
Sounded like we would send Iguodala and maybe Kapono or Green depending on what the pick was.
As of now, we continue to maintain that we will not be moving Iguodala.
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I'll admit I don't know anything about Gibson. Maybe someone can comment on his potential value. As far as the rest of the deal goes it's basically Iggy for Deng. A couple of years ago I would've called that a wash but now I'm not so sure...in fact I think I'd rather keep Igoudala.
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I like Taj a little but I really am not a fan of deng. Doesn't help our 3pt shooting at all and is a worse defender.
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Deng is a better 'scorer' from the SF spot butyou do take a step back defensively. Interesting offer.
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Isn't Deng nearly 10% better from three than Iguodala?Sixersftw wrote:I like Taj a little but I really am not a fan of deng. Doesn't help our 3pt shooting at all and is a worse defender.
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And Al Horford is nearly 70% better from three than Iguodala, doesn't mean he's a threat.
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How does Deng play off the ball? Might be something to revisit if Turner and Iguodala don't work out.
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This is actually pretty funny to me because about a week or so ago, I suggested the same thing with a comparison of how Deng's and Iguodala's stats were comparable but that Chicago would need to send a big man prospect and sweetener to balance out Deng's injury risk (which is why I thought it would need to be a 3 team transaction). If their message board is any indication, their fans seem to think Iggy can play well with Rose (God bless them, I don't agree).
I happen to like Taj Gibson as a lunch pail big who would get rebounds and garbabe points with hustle plays. I have always liked Deng's game though because he has deceptive length, a nice mid-range game and is a decent ball-handler. Oddly enough, and this may be greedy, but I wish they could do this deal with Jason Smith because I want to keep our veteran expiring contracts for trade deadline transactions. However if they offer a lottery protected No. 1, then bye-bye Willie.
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I happen to like Taj Gibson as a lunch pail big who would get rebounds and garbabe points with hustle plays. I have always liked Deng's game though because he has deceptive length, a nice mid-range game and is a decent ball-handler. Oddly enough, and this may be greedy, but I wish they could do this deal with Jason Smith because I want to keep our veteran expiring contracts for trade deadline transactions. However if they offer a lottery protected No. 1, then bye-bye Willie.
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sixerfan1976 wrote:Chicago wants Iguodala from us and has offered Deng, Taj Gibson and a conditional pick.
Sounded like we would send Iguodala and maybe Kapono or Green depending on what the pick was.
As of now, we continue to maintain that we will not be moving Iguodala.
That is a good deal in my opinion. Taj Gibson is really the steal in all of that because I really like him as a junk yard power forward. He is going to be a good one at that position defensively and rebound wise. He can also play the center. Just a real physical forward and at 6'9 can bang with most of the bigs in the league. Luol Deng would be a good scorer for us off the ball and this would allow Turner to settle in as the primary ball handler with Holiday. It would also open up a fair competition between Deng and Young for a starting forward spot. Taj Gibson is the draw in all this though. If we were to get him Speights would be in trouble for minutes with Collins coaching here. Gibson is a Collins type of player.
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freshie2 wrote:Isn't Deng nearly 10% better from three than Iguodala?Sixersftw wrote:I like Taj a little but I really am not a fan of deng. Doesn't help our 3pt shooting at all and is a worse defender.
Yes but his attempt numbers are all over the place. He only made 31 i think last year. Understanding your limitations is good but If we are going to give up the player that is better in almost every other category I want a legitimate threat from outside. One season he attempted 7 3pters (full 82 games).
Now from midrange he is money. If you subscribe to theory that we just need better shooters and not necessarily 3pt shooters, he is your man.
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I live in the Chicago area. Deng has been crucified for his lousy defense during the playoffs. Previously I never though of him as a bad defender- but lousy defense and being brittle is the rap on him.
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Deng is pretty injury prone right?
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Everyone seems more injury prone the Andre but yes he is fairly brittle.
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That does nothing for me, particularly when the pick is conditional. Not really sure Philly needs another 6'9" PF either. If Philly is going to trade Iguodala, I would hope for something more. Not to mention, I don't think they even get any kind of payroll relief, do they? Doesn't Deng make similar money to Iguodala?
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I'll pass, unless we get a bona fide game changer I wouldn't move Iggy. At this point I would just rather move some of the dead weight on the bench and see how the rest of the roster plays out during the season.
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I wanted the 76ers to trade for Anthony Randolph, but we did not have what GS wanted. 
