2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft

Negrodamus · Post #581 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue May 21, 2024 1:06 pm

One of the promising thing about Terrence Shannon is his evolution from being a high level defensive prospect at Texas Tech and turning into a force on offense. In that regard, I feel like there's some Jimmy Butler to his game. If he's acquitted, which it appears likely based upon the details I've read, then I'm alright with taking him.

the_process · Post #582 » by **the_process** » Tue May 21, 2024 2:36 pm

76ciology wrote:Btw, why can’t Filipowski be a cheaper version of Lauri Markkanen?

Filipowski is a much better rebounder and better in deflections than Markkanen in college.

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His defense and rebounding are concerning if you expect him to anchor that end for your team. However, he seems suitable to play alongside Embiid or with a backup PF or C.

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Is this really a possibility? If there is even a chance Filipowski could be a poor man's Markkanen I'm all on board with drafting this kid.

Arsenal · Post #583 » by **Arsenal** » Tue May 21, 2024 4:52 pm

the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:Btw, why can’t Filipowski be a cheaper version of Lauri Markkanen?

Filipowski is a much better rebounder and better in deflections than Markkanen in college.

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His defense and rebounding are concerning if you expect him to anchor that end for your team. However, he seems suitable to play alongside Embiid or with a backup PF or C.

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Is this really a possibility? If there is even a chance Filipowski could be a poor man's Markkanen I'm all on board with drafting this kid.

Just based on their college stats, Filipowski will never be the shooter that Markannen is. Probably not even close. However he appears to be better at passing, rebounding, shotblocking, and maybe a better perimeter defender. If he can adequately defend the mobile PFs in the league plus shoot 3's decently well, the total package becomes very appealing.

Kobblehead · Post #584 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue May 21, 2024 9:05 pm

Why is Lauri Markkanen being used as a standard?

He's been a starter in the league for 7 years and has never gotten to the playoffs. As soon as he does get in the playoffs, he's going to be a matchup liability at PF and C, defensively.

He's unplayable against any Eastern playoff teams outside of Milwaukee and Cleveland.

Kobblehead · Post #585 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue May 21, 2024 9:06 pm

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If you guys want some good guard play at 16th, Djurisic should be considered. He’s just 20. He’s a 6’7” SG, he has all the skills to be atleast a 16ppg player in the league. Reminds me of Bogdanovic of the Hawks.

Yup, this guy and Topic are the only international guys that played starters minutes and produced a star workload. The rest of the guys are just guesses and projections.

Kobblehead · Post #586 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue May 21, 2024 9:13 pm

76ciology wrote:I think Furphy is gonna shrink against NBA size and physicality, similar to Gradey Dick.

I don't think he's a soft as Gradey Dick is.

Dick: .226 FTR, 24.4% of his shots at the rim
Furphy: .393 FTR, 29.1% of his shots at the rim

Furphy is not afraid of contact, as evident of his free throw rate. Also, he took it to the rack a little bit more than Gradey did.

In terms of soft players that could shrink against NBA size and physicality, I worry about Carrington. He was afraid of contact and afraid of the paint in the ACC, not sure how he fairs in the NBA.

Negrodamus · Post #587 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:56 am

I don’t know if I was emphatic enough, but I’m taking Harrison Ingram in the second round. I want him in a dog fight in the playoffs.

76ciology · Post #588 » by **76ciology** » Wed May 22, 2024 4:05 am

Arsenal wrote:
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76ciology wrote:Btw, why can’t Filipowski be a cheaper version of Lauri Markkanen?

Filipowski is a much better rebounder and better in deflections than Markkanen in college.

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His defense and rebounding are concerning if you expect him to anchor that end for your team. However, he seems suitable to play alongside Embiid or with a backup PF or C.

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Is this really a possibility? If there is even a chance Filipowski could be a poor man's Markkanen I'm all on board with drafting this kid.

Just based on their college stats, Filipowski will never be the shooter that Markannen is. Probably not even close. However he appears to be better at passing, rebounding, shotblocking, and maybe a better perimeter defender. If he can adequately defend the mobile PFs in the league plus shoot 3's decently well, the total package becomes very appealing.

Hmm..

Likely never gonna be as good of a shooter but he can be close.

Is a bigger and better defensive Dario Saric a better comparison?

76ciology · Post #589 » by **76ciology** » Wed May 22, 2024 8:10 am

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Negrodamus · Post #590 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed May 22, 2024 5:28 pm

I'm getting RJ Hampton vibes from Ron Holland. I don't know if I can get burned like that again.

Kobblehead · Post #591 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed May 22, 2024 9:45 pm

I mean, they played head to head and Edey dominated Clingan.

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76ciology · Post #592 » by **76ciology** » Thu May 23, 2024 12:48 am

Negrodamus wrote:I'm getting RJ Hampton vibes from Ron Holland. I don't know if I can get burned like that again.

How about Buzelis?

76ciology · Post #593 » by **76ciology** » Thu May 23, 2024 1:10 am

I think Hawks would draft Clingan, he’s more balanced in terms of floor and upside. Also gives them flexibility if they hold unto Trae or trade him.

If they ever draft Sarr, I’d like to see minutes of Okongwu-Sarr-Jalen Johnson. Sarr could also be a good fit for the Hawks since they already have bigs who can play with Sarr.

76ciology · Post #594 » by **76ciology** » Thu May 23, 2024 3:47 am

Sheppard would be perfect for the Spurs, considering their collective offense philosophy and with Wemby as the centerpiece. He can be a mix of Derrick White and Tony Parker.

Alternative option is Castle.

Seems like a good draft for Spurs to draft their starting PG and SG. Possibly a Sheppard+Castle backcourt

76ciology · Post #595 » by **76ciology** » Thu May 23, 2024 3:53 am

I expect Kings to draft a wing replacement for Harrison Barnes and Monk, either with Jakobe Walter, Cody Williams or Terrence Shannon.

76ciology · Post #596 » by **76ciology** » Thu May 23, 2024 3:56 am

Negrodamus wrote:I'm getting RJ Hampton vibes from Ron Holland. I don't know if I can get burned like that again.

I think he wont slide past the Bulls.

76ciology · Post #597 » by **76ciology** » Thu May 23, 2024 7:42 am

I dont think Edey will make past the Grizzlies. Just perfect with their drafting still and based on team needs (replacing Tillman and Steven Adams)

76ciology · Post #598 » by **76ciology** » Thu May 23, 2024 12:31 pm

Buzelis and Kel’el Ware didnt sound smart for me in their interviews.

Negrodamus · Post #599 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu May 23, 2024 12:52 pm

76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I'm getting RJ Hampton vibes from Ron Holland. I don't know if I can get burned like that again.

How about Buzelis?

Haven’t really watched any of him. He’s generally out of our range, but maybe I’ll watch some today.

Kobblehead · Post #600 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu May 23, 2024 1:16 pm

76ciology wrote:Sheppard would be perfect for the Spurs, considering their collective offense philosophy and with Wemby as the centerpiece. He can be a mix of Derrick White and Tony Parker.

Alternative option is Castle.

Seems like a good draft for Spurs to draft their starting PG and SG. Possibly a Sheppard+Castle backcourt

I think Stephon Castle is the Anthony Black of this class in that he wants to be a PG but he's probably a SF.

Reed Sheppard fits on both ends, but I believe his role in the NBA is more of a Melton type role than a true PG because he lacks the dribble penetration and onball scoring.

I think the Spurs should look to get a dribble penetrating, attacking G like Isaiah Collier with the 8th pick. He could be their Tony Parker with muscles.

I think with #4, the Spurs make a surprise selection and take Tidjane Salaun.