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Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#1 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:06 pm

Anthony Gargano said on WIP that multiple league sources told him the Sixers had agreed to a trade with Golden State to trade Iguodala for Monta Ellis. The new ownership nixed that deal. Then they agreed to trade him for Wes Matthews and Marcus Camby from Portland. The ownership nixed that deal.

He said Thorn is denying it, but he knows it is true by talking to sources.

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Post#2 » by dbodner » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:37 pm

I know someone pretty close to the group. Ownership was consulted on trades, but last I had heard one didn't get close enough to have gone to new owners for approval. All try to ask around again.
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Post#3 » by Gsraider » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:03 pm

I suppose if you want to look at it from a positive point of view, if there is any truth to this, then the new owners clearly aren't solely looking at ticket sales because you would have to think that M. Ellis would draw more people into the seats than Iguodala. The other deal does nothing for me at all unless they love W. Matthews. I happen to think Camby is still a pretty solid center, but he's ancient and I believe he said he'd retire if traded.
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Post#4 » by The Sixer Fixer » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:11 pm

I'd have loved the Portland deal. Matthews (if healthy) would be a great fit here (though it woud probably push Turner to SF). I highly doubt Camby would want to be here though so if he would refuse to report that would swing the deal to the No side for me.
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Post#5 » by Point-God » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:16 pm

They should have pulled the trigger on the Matthews deal if this is true. They would have got out of the Iguodala contract, added a decent starting center and a true shooting guard that can put the ball in the hoop from anywhere on the court without chucking. I'm not with a Monta for Iguodala trade. Jrue, Matthews, and Meeks would be a great shooting backcourt rotation for a long long time. I personally wouldn't care if Camby retired, it appears he has a single year left on his contract according to one website. That looks like a better option than potentially paying Iguodala's salary the final few years of his deal.
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Post#6 » by The Sixer Fixer » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:20 pm

There would have had to be someone else included with Iguodala for that Portland deal to go down. We would be taking back way too much salary as just a 2-1.

Edit: The salaries aren't off by as much as I first thought. Including someone like Speights would make it work.
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Post#7 » by freshie2 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:54 pm

Glad if they nixed a 1:1 Ellis deal, but Matthews and Camby would have been nice additions. Still don't like ET at SF, but Matthews has really been a solid pro so far.
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Post#8 » by doctor him » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:26 pm

I was wondering where the "Portland" stuff was when I saw a couple articles but never saw any players.

IMHO...I like Matthews an awful lot. Even with Camby's implied threat to retire I might have done it.
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Post#9 » by P2K » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:58 am

Wesley Matthews? Damn. I would've like that deal. I doubt these trades were close enough to be completed.
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Post#10 » by PhillyFan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:23 am

doctor him wrote:I was wondering where the "Portland" stuff was when I saw a couple articles but never saw any players.

IMHO...I like Matthews an awful lot. Even with Camby's implied threat to retire I might have done it.


Would've been a much better trade than the Warriors trade
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Post#11 » by Stills12 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:09 am

A guess why they didn't trade with Balzers could be that wanted to see for themselves what other offers they can get for Iggy. It makes sense if we assume they don't have much faith in the FO.


or Iggy found some pics of that Joshua guy
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Post#12 » by SJSF » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:52 pm

I guess this new ownership is off to a roaring good start. How to nix both deals? Both deals make this team better. Ellis deal draw fans to the game and the Blazers trade certainly make us better and cut salary. Sometimes i just don't get why the Sixers are so stupid. And then in the same arena, the FLyers see something that is broken and makes moves.
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Post#13 » by P2K » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:46 pm

Still Desi wrote:
or Iggy found some pics of that Joshua guy




Iggz tried throwing the pics in the new owner's face, but it hit the top of the backboard instead.
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Post#14 » by Gsraider » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:54 pm

The new ownership group may have nixed the deals in part part because J. Levien was part of that group. As potentially an aspiring GM once again, he may have not viewed these deals as good value. That probably scares the "trade Iguodala at all costs" contingent, but it could be an indication that Levien thinks Iguodala is more valuable than the offers that were being received.
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Post#15 » by roma258 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:47 pm

Add another vote for the Blazers deal. Both players would have been good fits on the team. But right now it all sounds like speculation at best.
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Post#16 » by Skates » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:51 pm

First of all people are throwing the new owners under the bus for nixing alleged deals that may not have ever even existed or gotten that far. And if there were deals we have no idea if what Gargano said is a reflection of the entire deals. Everybody was jumping on the Monta bandwagon, but when SF75 made it known that Biedrins was tied to Ellis, the character of that proposed deal changed completely.

If I was the new ownership group and I was presented with a no-brainer deal that will elevate this team to contender status, then I take it. If not, then I probably want to see what my own people can do with the team and its players. Very few player for player deals went through around the entire league before the draft. Most of the heavily rumored names like Ellis, Josh Smith, Iggy, etc are all still out there on their original teams. Once the new owners take the reins the CBA will be in place, and for all we know an entire season may be gone. That would make Brand and his expiring contract a more likely trade piece perhaps. Maybe they ahve questions about Turner and want to see what he looks like after a summer of shooting and development.

Would you pay $280 for something and depend on the current Sixers braintrust to do a little fixing and altering in the meantime? If they are bad as we all claim they are, then the answer is an easy 'no.'
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#17 » by Sixerscan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:02 pm

This isn't true, probably got Gargano some extra listeners on a day the Phillies weren't playing.
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Post#18 » by steveb21 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:17 pm

I don't see where Iggy fits on the Blazers with Roy, Wallace and now Felton. That's three big contracts and I don't see any of them wanting to come off the bench.
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Post#19 » by The Sixer Fixer » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:09 pm

Maybe this was just a mis-interpretation of what he said (which I have no idea what that was).

If the team was up for sale, I highly doubt current management would have approval to make a major change to the roster. I'm sure they were trying to do everything possible to get the deal done and they wouldn't want a roster shakeup to drive potential buyers away.
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#20 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:07 pm

I posted it exactly as it was said. He said the new owners nixed the deals and they were agreed to by both parties.

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