Fantasy Trade Thread

[MCDubbin]

Apparently Hornets are already looking to unload Lance Stephenson. There was rumor that Pacers wanted a first as well for taking Lance and his contract. Why don't we jump on the deal?

[the_process]

How would everyone feel about his deal?

*disclaimer: I'm not sure if the salaries would work, but given our cap space... Maybe could.

Sixers in: Eric Gordon, 2015 second rounder, 2017 first

Pelicans in: ak47, plus fillers

Why for us: we can absorb Eric Gordon's contract, and possibly use him as trade bait when his contract is expiring. Plus we get picks.

Why for them: they get much needed depth at the small forward spot. Also they get cap relief for the upcoming offseason.


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The Sixers already own the Pelicans 2015 2nd.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2014/10/30/7130483/how-much-does-an-nba-draft-pick-cost

Average amount to buy a first is 7.2m. Even if this deal was at the deadline, Gordon would have roughly 3.7m left on his salary for this year and 15.5m next year. That's about 19.2m to buy a mid 1st three years from now. You think the Pelicans are giving up three future 1sts to dump him? Me either. Would Hinkie take less than market value? Maybe. Would the Pelicans give up their 2017 and 2019 1sts? Maybe. I imagine if they got a cheaper replacement they might be amenable. Deadline deal.

MIN gets JRich and AK
NOP gets Budinger and Martin
PHI gets Gordon, 2017 NOP 1st, and 2019 NOP 1st

Minnesota gets expirings for their unwanted multi-year contracted vets, New Orleans gets 2 starters who combined make less than Gordon, and the Sixers basically buy 2 1sts for about 16.7m which is only about 1m above average. The only hitch is if Minnesota thinks they are getting an asset for Martin. Maybe the Sixers kick them a 2nd and that pacifies them?

[WorldBeFree]

How would everyone feel about his deal?

*disclaimer: I'm not sure if the salaries would work, but given our cap space... Maybe could.

Sixers in: Eric Gordon, 2015 second rounder, 2017 first

Pelicans in: ak47, plus fillers

Why for us: we can absorb Eric Gordon's contract, and possibly use him as trade bait when his contract is expiring. Plus we get picks.

Why for them: they get much needed depth at the small forward spot. Also they get cap relief for the upcoming offseason.


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I would like gordon, really like him with the Clippers. I can see him putting up numbers like Turner last year since apart from covington and Wroten we have no real scores.

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[wickedwrister]

Apparently Hornets are already looking to unload Lance Stephenson. There was rumor that Pacers wanted a first as well for taking Lance and his contract. Why don't we jump on the deal?

Lance Stephenson is a good player but the exact opposite of what you would want to bring into the current environment. Would only do it if you thought you could flip him in the offseason which would be unlikely.


Also in response to some other posts both Bundinger and Eric Gordon seem like they are utterly shot in terms of their physical abilities unfortunately because I do like what both players brought to the table in their earlier years.

[wickedwrister]

Here's a fun question that will never happen but just curious on people's thoughts.
Lets say the Sixers get a top 2 pick and end up with Okafor or Towns in the 2015 draft. Would you package Noel and Saric for Wiggins? The team would be a defensive nightmare to play against for the next decade*

*assuming Embiid's health as always

Embiid
Okafor
McDaniels
Wiggins
MCW

[XDevilBoiX]

Here's a fun question that will never happen but just curious on people's thoughts.
Lets say the Sixers get a top 2 pick and end up with Okafor or Towns in the 2015 draft. Would you package Noel and Saric for Wiggins? The team would be a defensive nightmare to play against for the next decade*

*assuming Embiid's health as always

Embiid
Okafor
McDaniels
Wiggins
MCW

I would keep Noel and trade Okafor/Towns and Saric. We will need Noel's defense down the line, after last night's game. He has alot of potential on both sides of the court.

[wickedwrister]

Here's a fun question that will never happen but just curious on people's thoughts.
Lets say the Sixers get a top 2 pick and end up with Okafor or Towns in the 2015 draft. Would you package Noel and Saric for Wiggins? The team would be a defensive nightmare to play against for the next decade*

*assuming Embiid's health as always

Embiid
Okafor
McDaniels
Wiggins
MCW

I would keep Noel and trade Okafor/Towns and Saric. We will need Noel's defense down the line, after last night's game. He has alot of potential on both sides of the court.

I think Noel has defensive POY potential but not sure the offense will get there. If one of Okafor or Towns can give you 80% of what he gives you defensively and can be a 17-20 point scorer that is a trade off I'd be willing to live with.

[XDevilBoiX]

Here's a fun question that will never happen but just curious on people's thoughts.
Lets say the Sixers get a top 2 pick and end up with Okafor or Towns in the 2015 draft. Would you package Noel and Saric for Wiggins? The team would be a defensive nightmare to play against for the next decade*

*assuming Embiid's health as always

Embiid
Okafor
McDaniels
Wiggins
MCW

I would keep Noel and trade Okafor/Towns and Saric. We will need Noel's defense down the line, after last night's game. He has alot of potential on both sides of the court.

I think Noel has defensive POY potential but not sure the offense will get there. If one of Okafor or Towns can give you 80% of what he gives you defensively and can be a 17-20 point scorer that is a trade off I'd be willing to live with.

I agree on the defensive POY potential and that is the reason I don't wanna trade him. I do want to see Wiggins here but not at the cost of Noel. The line up you posted has too many guys on the offensive end and not great on defense except for KJ. We need at least 1 big guy who is a defensive specialist, maybe Embiid will be but I rather him develop his offensive game and have Noel do the same on defense.
Okafor is more of a offensive guy, Towns has not showed me much so I have no idea what to expect. Both are not as athletic as Noel. That's why I rather trade either one in a package for Wiggins.

[the_process]

In before the 15 posts to "get over" Wiggins.

[Skates]

With Billy King revving up the trade machine in New Jersey, you just know that we will end up being the third or fourth or fifth team in on a bunch of deals if he really can start moving players off that roster. The second round will simply be renamed to the Hinkie Round, LOL.

[XDevilBoiX]

With Billy King revving up the trade machine in New Jersey, you just know that we will end up being the third or fourth or fifth team in on a bunch of deals if he really can start moving players off that roster. The second round will simply be renamed to the Hinkie Round, LOL.

He can draft all the starters/young guys all over the world and stash them . Would be the kind of assets he talks about.

[Krash94]

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q65

If a team claims a player on waivers, it cannot trade the player for 30 days if the claim was made during a season. If the player was claimed during the offseason, he cannot be traded until the 30th day of the following season.

Ok, I didn't know you can claim someone off of waivers and trade them before the deadline. What if the Sixers used the next 48 hours to see if someone is willing to trade for Josh Smith? There are teams interested (but not in that idiotic contract). What if a team could get Smith and would be ok with his contract if they could shed equal money?

Sixers claim Smith (I know it's disgusting to even type that) and in 30 days:

Sixers send:

Josh Smith
Andrei Kirilenko
Ronny Turiaf

Kings send:

Nik Stauskas
Derrick Williams
Jason Thompson (only next year is guaranteed)

[MountainDrew]

Or the Kings just wait and then sign him

[KramerDSP]

If we "won" Smith off waivers (how does that work again anyway?), would we be putting Detroit off the hook and assuming responsibility for his contract?

[Krash94]

Or the Kings just wait and then sign him

Yeah but that doesn't get us anything

If the King's owner is crazy for Josh, he's not going to get him as a free agent. Smith is buddies with Rondo and Dwight Howard (since Kindergarten). Dallas and Houston are exploring it. So if that's who Sacramento wants, it's a path.

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[Foshan]

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q65

If a team claims a player on waivers, it cannot trade the player for 30 days if the claim was made during a season. If the player was claimed during the offseason, he cannot be traded until the 30th day of the following season.

Ok, I didn't know you can claim someone off of waivers and trade them before the deadline. What if the Sixers used the next 48 hours to see if someone is willing to trade for Josh Smith? There are teams interested (but not in that idiotic contract). What if a team could get Smith and would be ok with his contract if they could shed equal money?

Sixers claim Smith (I know it's disgusting to even type that) and in 30 days:

Sixers send:

Josh Smith
Andrei Kirilenko
Ronny Turiaf

Kings send:

Nik Stauskas
Derrick Williams
Jason Thompson (only next year is guaranteed)

I would be all for going this route... but i'd need this written in blood before i claimed him as us getting stuck with him would be all sorts of awful.

[wickedwrister]

I know it's a fantasy thread but if the Kings were willing to give up anything of value for smith they would have already done so and traded with Detroit. Detroit cut him in part because they didn't like the offers they got.

[ferk]

how about a salary dump with mem ? Pondexter ,tor 2 , bos 2nd for a shorter contract .

[marcush]

I know it's a fantasy thread but if the Kings were willing to give up anything of value for smith they would have already done so and traded with Detroit. Detroit cut him in part because they didn't like the offers they got.

Yep. And I know the crew over at Detroit are not the sharpest folks but even they would have pulled the trigger on a trade where Stauskus was involved. Not sure why they are turning down the other Kings deals also rather than pay 5m p.a for 5 yrs either but that's their problem.

I cant realistically contemplate any circumstance where we get a worthwhile return on Smith, and that's ignoring the huge risk of being left with one of the leagues worst contracts.

[marcush]

how about a salary dump with mem ? Pondexter ,tor 2 , bos 2nd for a shorter contract .

If Pondexter were expiring they would probably do that deal. Have to admit, it took a second take to comprehend Pondexters contract runs through 2018 at 3.5mill p.a, what a turd sandwich that one is.